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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering
What a lovely evening, it was great to see our boys out there. I love the way they go about the game, so freely, so much invention, so innovative. Fast ball movement, creation of space, excellent use of subs and perfect match day planning. Tactical genius, effort, hardness at the ball, skills, marking, decision making.

We have it all!

It's hard to imagine us being beaten! ;)

We'll have 80,000 members before the mid-season break!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2015-Rnd 2 West Coast vs Carlton
Are we any risk of letting Cripps get involved at stoppages? Or will he be wasted floating around doing not much of anything.

I think he was involved in 20+ stoppages in the NAB game V Geelong and 3 versus Richmond.

The guy is 10 feet tall and the eagles mids are pygmies.

He may have had a bit of Judd envy last week, fwiw they looked like they were all back to the old "Stand-back and let the man work" mode of operation! Which wasn't a major problem because I think we did OK in stoppages, plus Judd is just awesome!

So I agree, let Cripps get in there and let someone like Judd or Gibbs make themselves dangerous on the outside or inside F50.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL!
Don't think it needs to be quick if it's precise but slow movement followed by a stray kick is death.

It doesn't matter who you are, eventually there is a stray kick and if you move slowly enough a zone is setup to pick it off!

Nobody, not one player or any team, kicks at 100%

The game plan has to craft a win while dealing with imperfections in players.

Our game plan want or needs defensive perfection, but it creates such extreme pressure on the players trying to implement it that it becomes self-defeating! Then to top off their exasperation they get dragged over to the boundary for another earful of confidence, they look puzzled because they tried to do what was asked but failed! It's not like they did something wrong, just that the didn't succeed at it!

Nobody is perfect, not Malthouse and not the players, have a game plan that can deal with it!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL!
The one and only way to get rid of the +1 is fast ball movement!

Our current game plan is a like a concession to failure, no risk with no rewards!

But it makes a lot of supporters happy, less blow-outs! ;)

I'd rather have a few 100 point victories mixed in with a few 100 point losses, and bet on a favorable split for the rest, than have a season full of gallant defeats!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL!
I don't think slow ball movement is a factor in the situation I was referring to.

Picture the ball in Richmond's forward 50 along with most of the players.  Two of Richmond's defenders haven't followed their opponents and position themselves just forward of centre.  We get the ball and attempt to clear it but our kicks, handpasses or run and carry are intercepted/stopped by on of the two defenders.

By this stage our players are streaming forward and the ball is roosted back into Richmond's forward 50 and an unmarked player.

It's a feature of the same game plan, bodies behind the ball and an arm wrestle around the boundary. There are no fast breaks because we have numbers behind the ball, no man on man contests, no space and nobody to kick to! Yet apparently it's a good plan! :o
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL!

Forgive me if this is inaccurate, but if we move the ball so slowly for them to get loose players back, then forgive me if this is wrong, but shouldnt we be able to man up forward accordingly and end up with an even distribution of players forward?

I would have thought that that slow ball movement should be more conducive to ending up with more bodies forward, and that moving the ball quickly would allow their plus one to chop off the forward entry rather than the opposite?

Mind you, slower ball movement should also mean more precise ball movement, picking out a team mate rather than blazing away and kicking to a contest which is 2 to 1 against.

So you want more bodies in the F50, you want us to crowd our own F50?

Your pointing out the idiosyncrasies in the game plan, we don't crowd our own forward line and we keep bodies behind the ball, which means opposition can roll back and create numbers.

Again it's our slow moving contested game plan that creates more opportunity for opponents to setup, defenders want setups and numbers, forwards want freedom and space!

Sides press too easily against us in the real season, in the NAB Cup you saw Carlton using fast breaks with man-on-man football which we generally don't play.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL!
It's interesting to read different folks' reasons for our loss.

I don't think anyone has mentioned the two loose players Richmond had behind the ball who cut off almost every attempt we made rebound out of defence.

I suspect that the better teams (a) wouldn't have let that happen or (b) would have countered it after the first or second interception.  You could blame our failure to respond on the coach but I reckon that it is the responsibility of the on field leaders.  However, I wonder whether they have been empowered to do so or whether they lack the confidence to change the coach's set up.

For me it is clearly an issue with the game plan, our ball movement is too slow, plain and simple.

Those spares guys are not there all the time, and the opposition don't have some super-athletes who sprint up and down the ground all day. The opposition forwards roll off and like a domino effect their lose man propagates down the field to our forward line. But they can only do it because we move the ball slowly around the boundary line.

As far as I can tell, our game plan would only work with one of either Roughead or Walker inside our F50. There isn't another forward in the competition that can deal with our slow ball movement and this type of game plan! If Casboult was a lot stronger he may be able to work it as well, but his body on body stuff is below average for his size which leaves him out of the contest.
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The Sports Desk / Re: RIP Richie Benaud
Yes, Richie Benaud was A Grade gold.

Listening to Benaud commentate cricket was like listening to Attenborough describe mother nature.

Not talking was the greatest lesson some of the current spuds could learn from Richie!

PS: Note the spelling in the title!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2015-Rnd 2 West Coast vs Carlton
If you're referring to the incident where McIntosh 'won' a one on one contest then ran off Judd, have a look at it again.  Judd was leading to the ball when McIntosh grabbed his arm and pulled him off balance.  Judd was effectively out of the contest.

If Judd was still in Wet Toast colours, he would have got a free kick.

Yes it was bullcrap, furthermore the umpire was in perfect position to see the whole thing yet did nothing! Ablett Jnr would be bitching like a cut snake in the same circumstances, and then he'd get a pocketful of frees for the rest of the game!

Judd just shakes his head and gets on with it.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL!

Unfortunately in today's game everyone has to hold their own, if there is a weak link it will get exposed. The midfield tried to cover but when they did they hand balled or kicked over the top to the man they left. I'm not blaming the kid as it wasn't lack of effort, he physically couldn't run.

Yet a very public part of our game plan is to have players that can be used anywhere, in other words not in their preferred or most potent positions.

It's a standardisation plan and it sets a new level of mediocrity, you end up with the ground covered in players who are doing OK!

What we really need are players who excel!