He was often maligned but one of the players who left us to go to another club who I really admire was Bryce Gibbs. He tried 'unsuccessfully' to head to Adelaide at the end of the 2016 season but deal couldn't be done. He didn't sook about it. He came back in 2017 and put his head down and played some really good football, statistically one of his best seasons (43 disposals and 10 tackles in one game) He knew he would try again for the move at the end of the year but still gave us good efforts. Tom looks likely to go. The least we can expect is that he plays in a similar fashion right up until the end.
For every shining example like this one of Gibbs, there is an alternative one. Remember Lachie Henderson? He put in such little effort that we were forced to drop him and never play him again. He found form/motivation when he went to the cats though.
TBH, i'm not sure if TDK is showing a lack of effort etc. I think thats just him. It has always been him. His best is good. His worst is terrible and you never know what you are going to get out of him. Year on year he has become a little bit better and little bit more consistent, but he simply is not 'their' yet. The money being offered is for potential (still) rather than current output.
When he did his last contract i said there was no way he was deserving of the figures being bandied around (i think 1 mil at the time). I think the same now. He is not worth those figures.
Agree totally that 1.7M is overs but lets not be clouded by his last few months. He has a lot mates in the bracket of underperforming.
If we are going off what we are seeing now Charlie and Cripps would be on 450K
Wouldnt be surprised if Saints have warned him the 1.7M tag is provided hes body is 100% hence why his output is down - maybe he's afraid of the cost of a major injury as it could be life changing finically. Who knows?
Well he is currently playing like he doesn't give a F so he's getting some practise in early.
Toms money straight to Rohan. Done.
Exactly, gonna be an interesting Ruckmen Merry Go Round at the end of the year. Cameron would be the one I'd really want.
Cameron is too old and would hate to go from their culture to us IMO.
Marshall would be a great get - his tap work and work at ground level is exactly what we need. As TDK best work is when he is the sole ruck, they cant have Marshall in their long term plans unless they will play him as a forward but that seems unlikely. He would have a point to prove and if the offer is good he may be tempted but being contracted old mate SOS will 100% want the farm in return.
While Pit gives effort he's a old school slow lumbering ruck man which we cant have as our main option if we want to improve especially with the one paced midfield we currently have.
Hardly one post in this thread about the upcoming game. Says volumes of how far off we are.
Many including me make up 'likely' scenarios in our head (mostly ones that suit what we want to believe) whereby the true reality is we have no fking clue about the inside workings, players fitness levels, players playing injured, coach player connection etc etc. We just have our opinion on what the issues are run with it like its a fact.
The only fact is the scoreboard and on that basis alone most aspects have failed including the bulk of the playing list, the senior coach and all his assistants - all failures. FULL STOP. The only area of the club succeeding is the financial side and that will be under pressure as a lot of that was built off high probability of on-field future success.
All i hope for is a real strong statement at seasons end to make ballsy change to all areas without worrying about the names of the changes. We need to earn our stripes again by taking no prisoners and showing all the club comes first from our best player to our last player on the list because as it stands we have no respect in this competition which is saddest part for what was such a powerful proud successful club.
I just dont buy into small changes will do it and i dont care about 'how that has gone for us in the past mantra' - the group is miles off it and without considerable improvement in the off season we will again be all bark no bite.
The club and supporters need to be realistic - enough is enough and we have seen a long enough body of work to make a educated call on this. The list and all coaches, MC, LM are not going to give us any chance of adding to our tally without a massive clean out. This talk of only a few changes is nonsense.
Stop living in the 'but this list made a prelim' BS. Apart from that one year this list has done SFA every year - pull the bandaid off now!
Start afresh - and start now! Voss was an amazing footballer but the image of him sitting in the corner of the box (looked like the naughty boy put in the naughty corner) with a blank look on his face told us all he has no answers, no levels to pull and even if he did he would pull the same one till if fell off. All while the opposition coach while comfortably controlling the game staying in 2nd gear was barking instructions from the bench. What a difference.
Every single player must be on the trade table and i mean every single player.
Been supporting the blues for over 50 years and have never witnessed a team that couldn't give a fark when playing against the arch enemy. Even when we were a bottom team we would rise for these games. The rich culture i enjoyed in the 70-90s is gone and without massive change we are the new St Kilda.
So over all the talk - i heard old mate Charlie say directly after the game 'you will see a different team next week' Mate GAGF. Same as Weiterings talk during the week then they show up and deliver that.
Charlie is the epitomy of why we are so overrated by so many. He couldn't GAF - 0-7 in the last 3 weeks. Wright has to have his name on the table at years end or we are not serious.
As Jim has pointed out a few times, we do okay in the first year or two of any coach, then it starts to fall away. This must by now be some kind of habitual, ingrained, learned behaviour. I cannot understand why this keeps happening.
thats easy then just replace the coach every 2 years.
