Hard to know without a bit of background. It probably stood out because it’s not something we’ve seen from Voss a lot in his time at Carlton. It may be that he’d checked Cerra earlier in the game about a similar incident, and gave him instructions not to repeat it. You could understand that having been told once the coach would have been upset if Cerra had gone against a specific instruction.
But then, again, you'd ask yourself how come he hasn't got it? I doubt Cerra is deliberately disobeying instructions. If he is - Magoo time.
I noticed during the game an inordinate frequency of us going backwards with handball and short kicks - probably due to Rottingwood extreme pressure -- so, how come? Do our blokes not know how to deal with extreme pressure? Perhaps a throw back to the past where we'd collapse under real pressure - can't handle being the hunted? How come we're seemingly not prepared for an opponents best?
Where has our 'hunting' gone? For a period last year we went after aggot and opponent with commitment and ruthlessness (relentless/sustained 'hunting'). But not this year. Have we decided to just rely on the talent on our list and game plan and ignored between the lugholes stuff? 'Staying present' is one slice of the psychological pie... but there is much, much more.
I don't recall him bending over to try and pick up a ball much in recent games. I'm sure there is probably some vision of him doing that, but recently.... If he loses a contest it's sometimes a case of 'that's all folks'. I wouldn't be surprised if he's playing sore.
Charles has become something of a (considerable) impact player. Very little for 100 minutes + 15-20 minutes of freaky stuff. Aint enough. Like others I've noticed that with aggot in hand up the field he is deadly with his inside 50 disposal. More please. And if he's playing injured, how come and what is it? Maybe his knee issues are such that there are just things he can no longer do? Are we nursing him through games? Yep, this is what happens when we don't know... speculation sets in.
So far this year all our losses have been on us.We have lost them ourselves alot more than the other side won them. essentially our own dumb fault. Lost very narrowly to a couple of very good sides despite playing poor footy. Essentially a lack of the intensity we had last year. What we do this year is up to us, no-one else. Play with the right intensity and we roll anyone. Hopefully this happens when the whips crack in the 2nd half of the year when it is time to peak.
Yep he nailed it and I thought the midfield stuff was on the money too, they had a plan , worked us out and I thought Pendlebury was finished but he played some game on the bigger Cripps.
Isn't this where our coaching staff should earn their loot? Counteracting opposition tactics is where game day coaching skills are a premium. Turn the tables, give them something to think about... give our blokes strategies to deal with and counteract.
If their tackle count is going through the roof... what are we going to do about it? Fight fire with fire? There must be things we could have done, I would have thought. Do we have someone in the coaching box assigned such a task - skillful, tactical changes? (Welcome back to PP, Ratts as the game day strategy coach... just the bloke we need!)
And while I'm at it... that public spray from Vossy at Cerra is an alarm bell. Not on. The first thing Vossy, as the leader, should have asked himself was, "This is on me. What haven't I got through to this bloke for him to not be going forward with disposals?" A reflection of your leadership clarity of communication, Vossy? I know there are those who believe a good old-fashioned spray is good stuff - nuh. A quiet, motivating yet firm explanation in Cerra's ear (encouragement to the positive, not berating from the negative) would have been far more productive.
wait, wait, wait … just watched the Sunday Footy Show highlighting how they blocked Cripps at every centre bounce.
I mean, COME ON. If that sort of treatment doesn’t warrant a rule change I don’t know what does.
So the ball is NOT in play, there’s NO actual contest yet, in some instances the location was more than 10 metres away from where the ball was about to be bounced, and the opposing player did NOT have eyes for the ball.
So if you take your eyes off the ball and look at your opponent for a split second in a marking contest it’s a free every single time.
Also an instant free for “blocking” if the player’s path to a marking contest is impeded.
Why is that treated differently?
Of course, nothing new here - has been happening for years, and not just to Cripps. McCrae is portrayed as the good guy but I think this belies his Sheedy- or Clarkson-like approach to pushing things to the limit. He was even astute enough to make Pendlebury the blocker knowing he’s an ump favourite who has the footballing IQ to disguise the blocks.
Which brings me to Pendelbury’s last centre clearance - did he or did he not head straight for the boundary line? Great observation from one commentator that doing that is win/win. If the ump pings him for “insufficient intent” it gives them time to set up behind the ball. If the ump is too gutless to make the call it’s a throw in just far enough away from goal.
You can bet the family home that if the same tactics were done to Pendlebury, there'd be a hue and cry... and he'd get plenty of free kicks!
So glad the footy show highlighted this. In effect, opposition clubs are using illegal tactics to blunt our strengths - I include H and Charles in this as well.
That's how it's umpired, paying the Elliott frees is fair enough but Harry got nothing for the same holding treatment down the other end and I think that's what's irking a few fans .
Glad you mentioned this. The illegal tactics used on H and Charles, in particular, are, to be blunt, horrendous. And the blocking of Crippa is something I hope the club brings to the attention of the AFL. Pronto.
I'd pause getting stuck into Walshy. Yes, he stuffed up... big time. BUT, over 120 minutes of that game you'll find that many failures over the duration, across the board, got us into that critical moment in the first place.
We expect perfection from such a high achieving individual. How many times did he make a significant contribution to us scoring, or preventing an opposition score. There were too many 'moments' in that game where we failed, or other individuals just weren't up to task. Too much left to too few. Take out Fantasia & Durdin and put Chugga in the starting 22 and that error from Walsh may very well have not been so significant.
As I mentioned after the game, we played with a liability of only about 15 blokes on the field at any one time. Martin is not suited to being on the last line of defence - coaching error. Durdin and Fantasia should not (and shouldn't have been for some weeks) in the starting 22 - MC error. As for Chugga being the emergency... just fckn stupid.
I lived in a house of serious domestic violence for 22 years. I would love to tell people what I experienced but some might not want to hear the reality of what takes place. How it has a long term effect on children. I am happy to tell the story if people want to hear it first hand. How it was resolved after a further 25 years later.
My heart goes out to you, Green Stick. Having worked in this area, and experienced it first hand as well, and although it sounds like an exaggeration... it's something of a holocaust what goes on behind closed doors in too many family homes. Violence and abuse (physical, psychological & sexual) are far more prevalent that many folk may realise.
Further to what the Spotted One noted about mental illness, I'd add drugs, alcohol and other destructive addictions. Not to mention the role that fundamental religions play in all manner of abuses as well. And contrary to what many folks believe, these abuses sweep across all socio-economic groups, not confined to lower socio-economic groups.
And bear in mind that what is reported is but the tip of the iceberg. Non-reporting and fear of reporting is a pandemic.
I confess to being absolutely baffled when it comes to 'holding the man,' 'dropping the ball,' 'incorrect disposal' and 'holding the ball' unless blatantly obvious. Totally confused. It used to be pretty clear cut, but now it seems there are tolerable grey areas for all these which only creates further confusion in an already difficult to adjudicate game. But with these tolerated grey areas you end up with too much individual umpire interpretation. Some times you can watch one game, then another, and swear there were different rules for each! Result? Inconsistency... the continual complaint from supporters.
Just one example: There was a time where if you took possession of the aggot and tackled, and the ball was dislodged - automatic free kick against... regardless.
The AFL needs, on Monday mornings, to explain contentious frees and non-frees to educate us so we can better understand how the game is adjudicated.
Cameron- 4 marks 2 contested Cox- 3 Marks- 1 contested De Koning- 5 marks - 1 contested Pittonet-1 mark 1 contested
I suspect all were getting their hands to the ball at different stages but were spoiling each other in most of the contests.
Yep, Pitto does need to take those marks around the ground, but no blame for the loss could be put on the shoulders of our rucks. Likewise, with the exception of Williams, our defence did well until continued pressure and too many inside 50s from Rottingwood.
I also didn't see much wrong with our midfield, apart from being a little loose at times (Walsh) and going backwards too often (Cerra).
Rottingwood came well prepared to counter any and all of our strengths. They were mentally up for the challenge and hunted us really well. Whereas, we looked a little confused at times with a concerning lack of connection around the ground and especially between midfield and forwards. Insufficient confidence?
Williams is not a deep defender. Panics. Much better further up the ground. We were very, very lucky there weren't more free kicks against him as he did 'hang on' to opponents too much. Weiters, Boyd, Gov, Newey, Saad, Cincotta, Cow... are far more reliable in deep defence.
I've banged on before about a 'hunting' mentality. When we have this, we are much, much better. Finessing, is not our thing. We do better when the attitude/focus is simple. We seem to be thinking too much. Too complex trying to implement 'layers?'
A pretty good effort considering we were down three players for most of the evening - small Durds, Fantasia & Williams were liabilities. And Chugga being the sub was silly.
I thought the backline, considering the number of Rottingwood forward entries and Williams gifting them goals, did really well.
Again with a fifteen minute lapse in concentration in the 2nd qtr - in hindsight, that's when we lost too much. We were 'hunted' and wilted.
Presently, we're where we belong on the ladder, but just a fleas eyelash from top 4, especially with better small forward talent - Motlop, Martin & Fogarty.
I wonder if George H was a bit crook with the flu, not his usual standard? And not enough from Cunners.
