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Kreuzer all day versus Sandilands and Clarke?
@laj
Jim it's well known that MM likes to build the team around a solid defence and I think he would be a bit concerned about us in this area. He's therefore likely looking at options as to how this could be fixed, albeit maybe just for what's left of this year?
He also went Cloke, Dawes and Brown in his forward line that won a flag.
Not sure Waite would be that solid in defence. Often played well as a sweeping type and played well on certain type of key forwards like Riewoldt but got monstered by the likes of Brown. Then there was the dumb turnovers, which cost us goals. We got Watson time to develop him. Still yet to let anyone down in the seniors. You're not going to build a team around a 30yo injury key defender.
Maybe its a question of if Waite can play with another key forward...I dont remember Fev and Waite playing too many blinders together ....I think Waite could do a Nick Reiwoldt and lead player/s up the ground and give Henderson the space to work in. What I dont want to see is both of them at the top of the goalsquare getting in each othesr road and dragging their defender on top of the other player.
One needs to sacrifice for the other IMO and I reckon Waite would do better playing up the ground leaving Hendo one out...
@laj
Jim it's well known that MM likes to build the team around a solid defence and I think he would be a bit concerned about us in this area. He's therefore likely looking at options as to how this could be fixed, albeit maybe just for what's left of this year?
I disagree. A few years back, when Waitey played CHB a few years back, he was in AA form. I have always said I prefer Waite in defence, majority of his injuries have been sustained while playing as a fwd.Interesting on SEN this morning MM commented on what a great performance Carrazzo put in. This was not prompted with a question about Carrazzo, he mentioned 2-3 names off the cuff, Curnow was another.
He also said that it was not likely that Hendo and waite would combine up front and he actually mentioned that Waite would be some chance to play down back as they need a relief ruck and neither Waite nor Hendo can perform that role.
Can't believe he won't combine Henderson and Waite up forward. Geelong, Hawthown,and Sydney, 3 top sides, play two ruck and two key forwards. He did it himself at Collingwood with Cloke, Dawes and Brown. Waite's a running, mobile type, not like your traditional key forward. Can be just as easily played as a running, marking 3rd tall. Why not make your forward like as potent as possible. Not sure what Malthouse is thinking of there.
Waite does too many dumb things to be played in defence. Been great up forward though.
Interesting on SEN this morning MM commented on what a great performance Carrazzo put in. This was not prompted with a question about Carrazzo, he mentioned 2-3 names off the cuff, Curnow was another.
He also said that it was not likely that Hendo and waite would combine up front and he actually mentioned that Waite would be some chance to play down back as they need a relief ruck and neither Waite nor Hendo can perform that role.
Wicket was a absolute batter paradise but you still have to bat well top score a near double ton. Two of Warner's best Test innings though have been on real greentops. Before the Indian tour, where everyone failed on those dirty dustbowls, his average was near 45. India ripped that down alot. Despite what we think of him he's one of the very few in the team liable to make a big hundred, and quickly, scaring the fk out of the Poms. Love him batting away from opening as he could really take the game away from the opposition with the shine off the ball.Gilchrist was a freak! Test average higher than his first class batting average. That is just unreal, to improve further with the bat, against better opposition!
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Warner scored 193 in Aus A tour match overnight. This puts some serious pressure on Hughes and Smith to perform & keep their spots in the Aus 3 day match coming up...
Maxwell made a century also which kind of reduces the credibility of Warners innings and ttells you the wicket must be a batters paradise.....
If Lyon plays he would want to bowl 1000% better than he did on the weekend.
No it was 2011, I went went over for the game, Robbie played very well more than matched it with Lurch. In fact, I gave Robbie the points and thought he was instrumental in our win that day.206 torched him at Paterson Stadium in 2011
Wasn't that back when Sandilands was suffering turf toe, even so I think at best he broke even?
Maybe you mean another year, but I think Sandilands has been close to BOG in 4 of our last six encounters! So perhaps a break even is a win!
Waite and Hendo up front would be an opposition coaches nightmare! Two classy, strong marking athletic forwards both with a touch of brilliance in their own special way. Combined with the amigos I can't see us losing a game if we get the ball up forward enough. Perhaps playing both of them up front requires an adjustment in tactics, more of an offensive focus.
If he wasn't asked to Ruck such a large portion of the game, it wouldn't be an issue. Warnock and Kreuzer rotating in the ruck and Casboult and Henderson up forward? Lacks a rotation, but you can always activate a midfielder as a sub if it becomes an issue.
Me thinks Big Nockers will come in to take on the Bohemoth.
Can't see either Rowe or Casboult having any impact against Sandilands & Clarke. And it would be nice to go into a game with a full array of key position players.
I like the idea, but it would be a change from how the team has been selected in recent weeks.
Rowe out, Casboult in, is a must. Rowe, unless he is on his own, can't take a mark, and even when on his own there is no guarantee. He also lacks in the area of a second effort. There is no second effort from Rowe at all. Casboult can mark and has no hesitation in crashing a pack when going for a mark. He is also a much better ruckman. Two things are holding him back.
His kicking for goal is atrocious, and he lacks fitness to run out a full game. If you have a look at his performances when he's played, he's virtually disappeared out of a game after half time. It's an are that demands he work on or his days at Senior level are numbered. But for the rest of the season, he is a far better bet than Sam.
Casboults kicking is CLEARLY worse than Rowes.
Fitness levels are on a par.
Their rucking is on a par.
Casboults marking is slightly better as is his pack crashing.
Rowes game against the Saints is better then anything Casboult has done this year.
FYI Rowe has kicked 8 goals in 7 games.
Casboutl has kicked 4 goals in 7 games.
Rowe also has more kicks, marks and disposals.
To say one is much better than the other is showing clear bias.
Nice win, shocking kicking and too many passengers yet again.
Rowe - I wonder if he didn't have to deal with cancer last season if he'd still be getting this soft excuse for being an ordinary player. He was bigger, older and stronger than his opponents and was spoiled or put off most of the time. Rowe is slow, and not aggressive at the contest, I've never seen him chase down an opponent like Casboult has. Many say Levi is a shocking kick for goal but at least he gets shots on goal, he will split a pack open when going for a mark and when one on one I'd back him in to mark 75% of the contests in the air. Rowe is a back up nothing more, Levi is young and has some AFL skills, play him now.
Carrazzo - You can look on paper or you can watch the game, stats don't say how often he fumbled of was beaten at the contest by younger, weaker opponents. There was a time last season when you saw him go into a contest and had confidence that if he didn't win it then it out be a ball up. Now Carrazzo circa 2013 is back to his worst slow with his decision making and often beaten at the contest and it didn't stand out any more than this game against inferior players that he should have schooled he looked slow and second rate.
Murphy - A paper cut out of what he was two years ago, always looking for the easy possession and no whee near as damaging by foot. Did making him the captain and winning the MVP put MM ahead of where he really is?
Kreuzer - Man love starting to build again. Was dominant around the ground in the ruck with little help just wish he'd get in the play more around the ground and lift his stats to around 15-20 possies per game and 8-10 marks. That's the next step.
Gibbs - did he play? I know he did but was just cruising around not effecting the game at all.
The smalls - all did well in patches, all went missing in patches.
Curnow - I have been a big fan all season and couldn't understand why people were asking for his head. Fantastic job on Ablett. One image sticks out to me, he helped in a play which allowed Ablett to get 5-8 meters in front, rather than give up the chase Ed put his head down and took off, which put doubt into Halls mind if he should handball to Ablett and instead he kicked the goal, but I'd rather have Hall kicking for goal than Ablett.
Cachia - Man love here again. The only player I saw lay multiple blocks to get other mids free and I don't thinks it was a coincidence that when he came on we started to get better value from clearances.
Henderson - Man love again. I'm sure he's a forward get's to the right spots, when behind he uses his body rather than arms to get space. I can't wait to see Henderson, Waite and Casboult forward line. All three have different skills that would compliment the others.
Metricon Stadium - No games should be played there during the day ever again. It was terrible to watch and the lack of cameras were also evident. Sent the C grade commentary team and about half the number of cameras than we get elsewhere.
Kicked away in the last to make it a big win. GC are still developing, and will be a little "one step forward one step back" for a while. 40 scoring shots to 22 is pretty food going though.
Well done lads.
Considering we had about 6 or 7 non contributors that's not a bad result.
Waite in for Rowe.
If we bat Agar at 6, we could drop Watson for Warner. Both wankers but I am sick of Watson.
I would play Ahmed, not Lyon.
I would also drop Siddle, and pick Harris, Starc and Bird.
Bird must be played...... bizarre that he wasn't for this Test.
Watson must be dropped - can't get rewarding the carpola he produces...... fly in another 19 YO IF THAT'S ALL WE'VE GOT....
Does Rogers get another go after that deplorable effort?
Way too many NSW guys in the team too. Smith? Meh?
Hughes - double meh.......Shaun Marsh is 6 times the player Hughes could ever be......
Voges? D. Hussey?
Mike Hussey saw the writing in the wall i reckon.
Is Clarke as Captain the problem?!!
