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Title: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on March 22, 2021, 09:12:34 pm
Welcome to the 2021 version of the Jim Park Analysis thread. Thank you to all those people who have voted already. I have already updated the spreadsheet, so thing will be ready.
At the moment, I expect to close the Voting thread for Round 1 on Thursday, as we play the Meat Pies on Thursday night. Just wish I could be there: Parent teacher interviews, via the web, no less. Pity I can't do that at the MCG! :)
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on March 27, 2021, 11:36:08 am
Carlton vs Richmond: Rd 1 Nightmare:
We started the year as we have now for too long, with the loss to Richmond. I hate that.

Trends
[1]   The rating of 8.44 was very high for a loss, but for the most part we were the better team. A rating of 8.44 represents between a C+ and a B-. However, we had a much higher range than is usual, with ratings varying from A(!) to E(!!!). I guess a lot of voters took into account the team we were playing, while others were simply disgusted that we had another loss in a very similar manner.
[2]   We had 4 players score more than 100 Votes, with Weitering getting a 95. That suggests that we had a number of contributors.
[3]   We had 14 players get a mention this week, a positive sign. A couple more and the result …
[4]   We had 16 voters this week, which is quite high for a loss. It was 4 more than for the corresponding game last year.
[5]   Sam Walsh started the year in fantastic form to take out the first BOG. It was good to see Cripps in the votes as well, although he does seem to be carrying some injury issues at the moment.
[6]   Sam Walsh and Adam Saad got votes from every voter, the only players to do so. It was very good seeing new players in the votes.
[7]   Similarly, it was nice to get Fog and Oscar McDonald get into the votes in their first outings in our colours, even with the scores being small.
[8]   Pittonet was a very important player, as our sole ruckman available. Alas, a 1 vote performance suggests that he was well beaten on the night. As someone who thinks the rucks are important in getting our players first use of the ball, I saw this as a bad sign. So it proved in week 2.

Votes:
470 - Walsh, Sam (0)
275 - Saad, Adam (0)
164 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
109 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
95 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
59 - Newnes, Jack (0)
53 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
16 - Curnow, Edward (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)
8 - Fisher, Zac (0)
6 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
3 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
3 - McKay, Harrison (0)
3 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on April 05, 2021, 05:50:19 pm
Carlton vs Collingwood: Rd 2 Disappointment:
Most Carlton supporters were very disappointed with this game, as we didn't show the same intensity that we managed against Richmond for so much of that game. A huge disappointment and a question mark over our entire season.

Trends:
[1]   The rating this week is considerably lower than last week at 7.1. This represents a score of barely a D. Other than 2 F’s, most of the scores were around the D mark. There simply wasn’t the difference in the way we say the game. D for Disappointment!
[2]   Last week we had 4 guys who scores more than 100. This week there were only 3, although Gibbo did get 96. That appears to be a reasonable assessment: too much left to too few.
[3]   We had 13 players get a mention, only one down from last week. We tend to get nearer 19 when we win.
[4]   Last week we had 16 voters. This week we were down to 14, another typical result when we lose.
[5]   Adam Saad managed to get top votes this week, followed closely by Sam Walsh.
[6]   Adam Saad was the only player to get votes from every voter. Sam Walsh missed out on one, as did H.

This weeks votes:
Saad, Adam 253
Walsh, Sam 233
McKay, Harrison 172
Gibbons, Michael 96
Fogarty, Lachlan 76
Weitering, Jacob 73
Martin, Jack 68
Petrevski - Seton, Sam 23
Fisher, Zac 18
Docherty, Sam 18
William, Zac 15
Cripps, Patrick 13
Curnow, Edward 5

Progressive Voting:
703 - Walsh, Sam (0)
528 - Saad, Adam (0)
177 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
175 - McKay, Harrison (0)
169 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
150 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
109 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
82 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
69 - Martin, Jack (0)
59 - Newnes, Jack (0)
26 - Fisher, Zac (0)
23 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
21 - Curnow, Edward (0)
18 - Docherty, Sam (0)
16 - William, Zac (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)
3 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
3 - Pittonet, Marc (0)

Sam Walsh and Adam Saad have already cleared away from the pack. It is close behind them.



Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on April 09, 2021, 09:00:43 pm
AFL 2021 Rd 3:   Carlton vs Fremantle
And the Blues finally open their account for 2021. Missed it live but enjoyed a lot of the replay. It is amazing how different my brain chemistry is after a win!

Trends:
[1]   The rating this week is so much better than last week that the question about which Carlton team went onto the field almost becomes relevant. The overall rating was 9.19, which is almost a B+. Some of us are hard markers.
All of the ratings were from B- to A, nothing higher, nothing lower. That in itself is quite unusual, as we are a very varied bunch are rarely see the game the same way.

[2]   This week we have 5 players get 100 or more votes. That in itself is good, but the lowest of those 5 scores was 172! It showed that we had some dominant players who stuck out.

[3]   We still showed that we are a bunch of individuals: only 3 players got votes from all voters (Cripps, Jones and McKay). However, three other players had all but one or two voters give them a mention. This is extremely unusual for us when we vote.

[4]   This round there were 16 voters, which is a little down for a considerable win. We haven’t had many considerable wins in recent years. Hopefully, we can put away a few more teams this year.
We had 17 voters for this round last year.

[5]   We had 13 players get a mention this week, which is a little down on vote getters from recent times. I think it was because we had quite a number of dominant players who deserved a lot of votes, so the borderline cases missed out. There were a number of players who got Honourable Mentions, rather than votes this week.

[6]   Liam Jones got his first BOG of the season with a dominant display across half back. Sam Walsh made it 3 top 2 finishes out of 3. Only 2 others, Saad and Gibbons, have managed top 10 finishes in all 3 games this year.

[7]   Of our newer players, Fog has managed 11th, 5th and 5th. That is a pretty positive start for the young man.

Votes:
Jones, Liam 319
Walsh, Sam 270
McKay, Harrison 247
Cripps, Patrick 207
Fogarty, Lachlan 172
Silvagni, Jack 75
Gibbons, Michael 23
Docherty, Sam 17
Curnow, Edward 14
Saad, Adam 11
Newnes, Jack 9
Plowman, Lachlan 9
Pittonet, Marc 6

Progressive Votes:
973 - Walsh, Sam (0)
540 - Saad, Adam (0)
422 - McKay, Harrison (0)
383 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
319 - Jones, Liam (0)
254 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
172 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
169 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
117 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
78 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
69 - Martin, Jack (0)
67 - Newnes, Jack (0)
36 - Curnow, Edward (0)
35 - Docherty, Sam (0)
26 - Fisher, Zac (0)
23 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
16 - William, Zac (0)
9 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)

Sam Walsh has a commanding lead at this point, but the following pack is strong and improving.
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on April 10, 2021, 10:44:24 am
To be updated today. There was a late voter.
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on April 16, 2021, 10:28:40 am
AFL 2021 Rd 3:   Carlton vs Fremantle Updated 16th April
Sorry for the need of an update, but we had a late voter.

Trends:
[1]   The rating this week is so much better than last week that the question about which Carlton team went onto the field almost becomes relevant. The overall rating was 9.18, which is almost a B+. Some of us are hard markers.
All of the ratings were from B- to A, nothing higher, nothing lower. That in itself is quite unusual, as we are a very varied bunch are rarely see the game the same way.

[2]   This week we have 5 players get 100 or more votes. That in itself is good, but the lowest of those 5 scores was 173! It showed that we had some dominant players who stuck out.

[3]   We still showed that we are a bunch of individuals: only 3 players got votes from all voters (Cripps, Jones and McKay). However, three other players had all but one or two voters give them a mention. This is extremely unusual for us when we vote.

[4]   This round there were 17 voters, which is a little down for a considerable win. We haven’t had many considerable wins in recent years. Hopefully, we can put away a few more teams this year.
We had 17 voters for this round last year.

[5]   We had 13 players get a mention this week, which is a little down on vote getters from recent times. I think it was because we had quite a number of dominant players who deserved a lot of votes, so the borderline cases missed out. There were a number of players who got Honourable Mentions, rather than votes this week.

[6]   Liam Jones got his first BOG of the season with a dominant display across half back. Sam Walsh made it 3 top 2 finishes out of 3. Only 2 others, Saad and Gibbons, have managed top 10 finishes in all 3 games this year.

[7]   Of our newer players, Fog has managed 11th, 5th and 5th. That is a pretty positive start for the young man.

Votes:
Jones, Liam 305
Walsh, Sam 281
McKay, Harrison 248
Cripps, Patrick 216
Fogarty, Lachlan 173
Silvagni, Jack 70
Gibbons, Michael 22
Docherty, Sam 16
Curnow, Edward 13
Saad, Adam 11
Plowman, Lachlan 8
Newnes, Jack 8
Pittonet, Marc 5

Progressive Votes:
984 - Walsh, Sam (0)
539 - Saad, Adam (0)
424 - McKay, Harrison (0)
393 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
305 - Jones, Liam (0)
255 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
171 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
169 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
117 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
73 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
69 - Martin, Jack (0)
67 - Newnes, Jack (0)
35 - Curnow, Edward (0)
34 - Docherty, Sam (0)
26 - Fisher, Zac (0)
23 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
16 - William, Zac (0)
9 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)

Sam Walsh has a commanding lead at this point, but the following pack is strong and improving.
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on April 25, 2021, 08:55:59 pm
Round 4: Carlton vs Gold Coast:
A win is a win is a win, especially after the way they destroyed Sydney.
Trends:
[1]   The rating this week was 8.42, a little over a C+. That is a little lower than it has been for some of our recent wins, but maybe our expectations have gone up?

[2]   This week we have 4 players who managed 100 votes or more, down from last week. But then, we played better last week.

[3]   This week only one player, Ed Curnow, managed to get votes from all of the voters. There were a couple of others who polled well, but they didn’t convince everybody.

[4]   There were 15 voters this week, down from 17 last week and lower than we manage for most wins. An away game? Maybe.

[5]   This week we had 14 players who managed to get votes, up from 13 last week. Not as good as we were at the end of last year, but decent all the same.

[6]   Ed Curnow managed his first BOG of the year. Sam Walsh had his least effective game for the year and was still 8th for us. Liam Jones backed his marvellous display last week with another strong showing to get 2nd.

Votes:
Curnow, Edward 328
Jones, Liam 244
Weitering, Jacob 216
Petrevski - Seton, Sam 118
Docherty, Sam 73
Murphy, Marc 73
Cripps, Patrick 42
Walsh, Sam 39
Cottrell, Matthew 34
Pittonet, Marc 28
Betts, Eddie 22
Fogarty, Lachlan 11
Gibbons, Michael 11
Newnes, Jack 11
Saad, Adam 8
Plowman, Lachlan 3

Progressive Voting:
1023 - Walsh, Sam (0)
550 - Jones, Liam (0)
547 - Saad, Adam (0)
435 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
424 - McKay, Harrison (0)
385 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
363 - Curnow, Edward (0)
266 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
182 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
141 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
120 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
107 - Docherty, Sam (0)
78 - Newnes, Jack (0)
73 - Murphy, Marc (0)
73 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
69 - Martin, Jack (0)
37 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
34 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
26 - Fisher, Zac (0)
23 - Betts, Eddie (0)
16 - William, Zac (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)

Walsh has gone out to a 500 lead with another strong performance. Jones is coming 2nd at this point.
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on April 25, 2021, 09:41:48 pm
Round 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide
A very disappointing night, but one where we didn't get flogged.

Trends:
[1]   The rating this week was 5.71, a low rating indeed. That corresponds to a E- and is the lowest rating of the year so far.

[2]   This week we had 2 players get 100 votes or more. We only had a couple of 4 quarter players, and this is the result.

[3]   This week we had only 1 player, Sam Walsh, who managed to get votes from everyone. Jacob Weitering almost made it: 1 voter did not rate his performance.

[4]   There were 14 voters this week, up from 13 for the same round last year and down from last week. Not a great surprise, the way we played.

[5]   13 players managed a mention this week, which isn’t bad, but few of them got more than a few votes. Only 2 players really stood out.

[6]   Sam Walsh managed his 2nd BOG for the year, while Jacob Weitering was runner up. There was a big gap to the rest.

Votes:
Walsh, Sam 355
Weitering, Jacob 200
Casboult, Levi 73
Docherty, Sam 53
Cripps, Patrick 41
Pittonet, Marc 41
Saad, Adam 31
Cottrell, Matthew 20
William, Zac 18
Curnow, Edward 12
Fogarty, Lachlan 4
Gibbons, Michael 4
Plowman, Lachlan 4

Progressive Voting:
1378 - Walsh, Sam (0)
585 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
578 - Saad, Adam (0)
550 - Jones, Liam (0)
475 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
424 - McKay, Harrison (0)
376 - Curnow, Edward (0)
270 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
160 - Docherty, Sam (0)
141 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
124 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
78 - Newnes, Jack (0)
77 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
73 - Murphy, Marc (0)
73 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
69 - Martin, Jack (0)
55 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
34 - William, Zac (0)
26 - Fisher, Zac (0)
23 - Betts, Eddie (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)

Walsh is about 800 ahead at this point and is a long way ahead of the pack.
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on May 15, 2021, 11:00:44 am
Round 6: Carlton vs Brisbane
Another one of those games that we could have won, but didn't.

Trends:
[1]   The rating this round was 7.07, which represents a D. It is probably a little low for a team that got so close to a certain finalist, but there is only so much heartache that we can tolerate.

[2]   This round we had 4 players get more than 100 votes, a considerable improvement over the Port Adelaide game.

[3]   This round we had 2 player who got votes from everybody. Two others missed by one or two voters only. Sam Walsh and H were the two that were unanimous, and they deserved their ratings with fine fines. Jones and Ed Curnow were the two that missed by a voter or two.

[4]   We had 14 voters this round, down from 17 for the same round last year, but the same as last week. We won’t get many more until we start winning.

[5]   There were 10 players who got a mention this week. This is very much one of the down-points for this game. We had a lot of players who didn’t make much of an impression for this round. Last week 13 players managed to get a vote in an inglorious display.

[6]   Sam Walsh continued his fantastic season with his 3rd BOG result. He has been BOG in half the matches he plays, something that is Don Bradman-like. H was in the top 3 for the 3rd time this year but hasn’t cracked a BOG yet.

[7]   Our bigger name recruits failed to fire again this week. That has to be a worry for our match committee. It is certainly something I do not like.

Votes:
Walsh, Sam 391
McKay, Harrison 275
Curnow, Edward 141
Jones, Liam 134
Cripps, Patrick 48
Weitering, Jacob 40
Pittonet, Marc 18
Murphy, Marc 5
Docherty, Sam 3
Petrevski - Seton, Sam 3
Cuningham, David 3

Progressive Voting:
1770 - Walsh, Sam (0)
699 - McKay, Harrison (0)
684 - Jones, Liam (0)
625 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
578 - Saad, Adam (0)
523 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
517 - Curnow, Edward (0)
270 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
163 - Docherty, Sam (0)
144 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
124 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
95 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
79 - Murphy, Marc (0)
78 - Newnes, Jack (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
73 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
69 - Martin, Jack (0)
55 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
34 - William, Zac (0)
26 - Fisher, Zac (0)
23 - Betts, Eddie (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)
3 - Cuningham, David (0)

Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on May 15, 2021, 04:08:54 pm
Round 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs:
What might have been, again. We did everything but win the damned game. Sigh!

Trends:
[1]   The rating varied a lot this week. Some voters wanted to penalize the side for capitulating, while others thought we were actually close and played well for most of the game. Everyone has their opinion, one of the strengths of our voting system. The result was 7.46, which represents something between a C- and a D+. Probably a reasonable result, considering that we lost.

[2]   In the view of the voters we had 3 outstanding players who got votes from everyone. There were 2 other that attracted votes from all but a couple.

[3]   We had 5 players getting 100 votes or more. This sort of distribution is more common in wins than in losses.

[4]   11 players rated a mention. This is more like the voting pattern we saw a few years back. Last year more players managed a mention as we were a more even side.

[5]   Jacob Weitering has his first BOG for the season. Eddie Betts was 2nd, with his first top finish for the year. H managed his 4th top 5 finish for the season.

[6]   We had 13 voters this round, one up from the same round last year and one down from last week.

[7]   Again, our big-name recruits did not make much of an impact. A very worrying trend in my opinion.

Votes:
Weitering, Jacob 373
Betts, Eddie 221
McKay, Harrison 164
Docherty, Sam 135
Curnow, Edward 123
Walsh, Sam 43
Plowman, Lachlan 26
Cottrell, Matthew 14
Pittonet, Marc 11
Cuningham, David 6
Owies, Matthew 3

The progressive votes:
1813 - Walsh, Sam (0)
999 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
863 - McKay, Harrison (0)
684 - Jones, Liam (0)
640 - Curnow, Edward (0)
578 - Saad, Adam (0)
523 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
298 - Docherty, Sam (0)
270 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
244 - Betts, Eddie (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
149 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
144 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
107 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
79 - Murphy, Marc (0)
78 - Newnes, Jack (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
73 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
69 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
69 - Martin, Jack (0)
34 - William, Zac (0)
26 - Fisher, Zac (0)
9 - Cuningham, David (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)
3 - Owies, Matthew (0)




Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on May 16, 2021, 10:16:59 am
I seem to have missed a game somewhere. Got to fix that up.
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2021, 12:08:42 pm
I forgot to input the Essendon game. I'll do that later today.
Suffice to say that Walsh was BOG.
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on May 27, 2021, 09:21:36 pm
Carlton vs Drug Cheats: a nice win.
Trends:
[1]   The rating of 8.94, which is effectively a B, is the 2nd highest for the year. I’m not quite sure what that says, except that we haven’t been as good as we had hoped.

[2]   We had 17 Voters for this game.

[3]   We had 14 players worthy of a mention this round. This is the sort of number we were getting when we were winning games last year. In 2020 we were a very even side. That had a lot of potential in it, as we didn’t depend on a small number of players.

[4]   We had 6 players who managed to get 100 votes or better. This is the best spread of top votes I can remember.

[5]   Sam Walsh was the stand-out player, yet again. His form this year has been nothing short of brilliant.

Votes:
Walsh, Sam 452
Curnow, Edward 210
Saad, Adam 184
Weitering, Jacob 163
Cuningham, David 105
McKay, Harrison 100
Betts, Eddie 53
Owies, Matthew 45
Petrevski - Seton, Sam 13
Fogarty, Lachlan 5
Cripps, Patrick 3
Docherty, Sam 3
Pittonet, Marc 3
Cottrell, Matthew 3

Progressive Voting:
2265 - Walsh, Sam (0)
1162 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
963 - McKay, Harrison (0)
851 - Curnow, Edward (0)
762 - Saad, Adam (0)
684 - Jones, Liam (0)
526 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
301 - Docherty, Sam (0)
297 - Betts, Eddie (0)
275 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
157 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
149 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
109 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
79 - Murphy, Marc (0)
78 - Newnes, Jack (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
73 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
72 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
69 - Martin, Jack (0)
48 - Owies, Matthew (0)
34 - William, Zac (0)
26 - Fisher, Zac (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)

Sam Walsh has a massive 1100 vote lead at this point.

Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on May 28, 2021, 10:20:42 pm
Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne
I was disappointed at the time, but our result looks pretty good now. Melbourne are good this year.

Trends:
[1]   The rating for this game was 7.51, just a little less than a C-. At the time I was very disappointed, and not a little angry, but our result holds up very well. Only Adelaide (!!!) have done better.

[2]   This round we had 4 players get 100 or more votes. That is pretty good for a loss, but again appeared to be pretty even.

[3]   We had 3 players who got votes from every voter, with another two that missed from 2 voters.

[4]   We had 13 voters this round. Not far off normal for a loss and 3 better than for the same round last year.

[5]   Sam Walsh managed his 5th BOG for the year. Docherty had his best result of the year (2nd). In fact, 9 out of the top 10 vote getters were our top vote getters this week.

[6]   There were 16 players who got a mention, something we usually only get for a win.
 
Votes:
Walsh, Sam 292
Docherty, Sam 202
Cripps, Patrick 147
Curnow, Edward 133
McKay, Harrison 87
Saad, Adam 78
Betts, Eddie 58
Jones, Liam 43
Cottrell, Matthew 29
Fogarty, Lachlan 14
Stocker, Liam 12
Weitering, Jacob 9
Newman, Nicholas 9
William, Zac 6
Setterfield, Will 6
Murphy, Marc 3

Progressive Voting:
2557 - Walsh, Sam (0)
1170 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
1049 - McKay, Harrison (0)
984 - Curnow, Edward (0)
840 - Saad, Adam (0)
727 - Jones, Liam (0)
673 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
503 - Docherty, Sam (0)
354 - Betts, Eddie (0)
290 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
157 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
149 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
109 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
100 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
81 - Murphy, Marc (0)
78 - Newnes, Jack (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
73 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
69 - Martin, Jack (0)
48 - Owies, Matthew (0)
40 - William, Zac (0)
26 - Fisher, Zac (0)
12 - Stocker, Liam (0)
9 - Newman, Nicholas (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)
6 - Setterfield, Will (0)

Sam Walsh is almost 1400 votes ahead at this point. Those numbers are Judd-like.
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on June 05, 2021, 02:40:33 pm
Carlton vs Hawthorn at the MCG.
The first time we've beaten them at the MCG in a long time. However, we were not convincing.

Trends:
[1] This week there was a distinct scarcity of voters. Normally for a win there are about ]17 voters. Normally for a loss, there are about 12. This was a significant win, but only 14 people bothered to vote. This is not the signs that we would like to see at all. Unfortunately, it was a measure of how underwhelming the game actually was.

[2] The rating was 8.62. almost a B-. We have performed that well this year in losses.

[3] One very positive trend on the day was that 4 players managed 100 or more votes this week. A very positive effort.

[4] Similarly, 17 players managed a mention. Both of those tend to occur only when we play particularly well.

[5] Walsh managed yet another BOG performance. For the 5th time this season.

[6] There were 3 players who got votes from every voter, with another two that were close to that.

Votes:
Walsh, Sam 363
Docherty, Sam 228
Curnow, Edward 191
Saad, Adam 129
Weitering, Jacob 74
William, Zac 68
Betts, Eddie 55
Cripps, Patrick 46
Silvagni, Jack 35
Pittonet, Marc 31
Stocker, Liam 18
Murphy, Marc 9
Newman, Nicholas 9
Jones, Liam 6
Plowman, Lachlan 6
Owies, Matthew 6
Cottrell, Matthew 3

Progressive Votes:
2920 - Walsh, Sam (0)
1244 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
1175 - Curnow, Edward (0)
1049 - McKay, Harrison (0)
969 - Saad, Adam (0)
733 - Jones, Liam (0)
731 - Docherty, Sam (0)
720 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
410 - Betts, Eddie (0)
290 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
157 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
156 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
140 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
110 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
108 - William, Zac (0)
104 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
100 - Murphy, Marc (0)
78 - Newnes, Jack (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
69 - Martin, Jack (0)
54 - Owies, Matthew (0)
34 - Stocker, Liam (0)
26 - Fisher, Zac (0)
18 - Newman, Nicholas (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)

Walsh had a 1600 lead.
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on June 17, 2021, 10:57:38 am
Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
This could well be the performance we liked least for this season. It scared the voters off more than any performance of recent times. That includes when we were being thrashed a year or tow back.

Trends:
[1]   As noted earlier, this game really scared the voters away. Only 9 people voted, compared to 16 for the same round last year and 12 to a ‘normal’ loss. More people were voting when we were being thrashed every second week!

[2]   The rating, at 7.26 (D+) was nowhere near the worst for the year. But the voters were tired of our capitulating in the last quarter. The Obvious question is: are we as fit as we are supposed to be? The answer appears to be a ‘no’.

[3]   13 players managed a mention, but there were 3 performances that stood out. 13 players is not bad, but …

[4]   4 players managed 100 or more votes, which would have been good if others had been good. However, these 4 guys managed to get almost all of the votes.

[5]   3 players managed votes from all of the voters.

[6]   Cripps managed his first BOG performance of the year. Walsh was 2nd. Walsh has been in our top 2 for 9 games so far.

Votes:
Cripps, Patrick 315
Walsh, Sam  230
McKay, Harrison  177
Weitering, Jacob 101
William, Zac   69
Curnow, Edward  48
Silvagni, Jack  40
Jones, Liam 36
Betts, Eddie  32 
Newman, Nicholas  12
Stocker, Liam 8
Docherty, Sam  4
Pittonet, Marc

Progressive Voting:
3150 - Walsh, Sam (0)
1345 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
1227 - McKay, Harrison (0)
1223 - Curnow, Edward (0)
1034 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
969 - Saad, Adam (0)
769 - Jones, Liam (0)
739 - Docherty, Sam (0)
442 - Betts, Eddie (0)
290 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
176 - William, Zac (0)
157 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
156 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
151 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
144 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
104 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
100 - Murphy, Marc (0)
78 - Newnes, Jack (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
69 - Martin, Jack (0)
54 - Owies, Matthew (0)
46 - Stocker, Liam (0)
35 - Newman, Nicholas (0)
26 - Fisher, Zac (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)
6 - Setterfield, Will (0)
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on June 17, 2021, 11:58:21 am
Carlton vs West Coast
Another disappointment. This year is littered with them.
However, the Weagles did beat Richmond the next round, so maybe it wasn't quite as bad as we thought. However, the loss did cause a Review into the entire Football Department.

Trends:
[1]   There were 12 voters this round, an improvement over the last round, but not the sign of success. There were 16 votes for this round last year.

[2]   The rating was a very topsy-turvy thing, but the disappointment was definite across the board. The overall rating was 6.36, which represents an E+! This is the 2nd lowest of the year.

[3]   15 players managed to get a mention, which would normally be an excellent sign. But not this week. It shows that a lot of players did something, but not enough played out the 4 quarters.

[4]   4 players managed 100 votes or more this week. This was actually pretty good.

[5]   Walsh and Weitering were the top 2 again this week. If only a few more players would join them at the top.

[6]   Walsh and Weitering were also the only 2 players to get votes from all of the voters this week.

Votes:
Walsh, Sam  257
Weitering, Jacob  183
Jones, Liam  135
Saad, Adam  101 
William, Zac  53
Cripps, Patrick  48
Betts, Eddie  32
Silvagni, Jack  29
Fisher, Zac  27
Newman, Nicholas  21
de Koning, Tom  21
Dow, Patrick 19
Owies, Matthew  13
Setterfield, Will  13
Murphy, Marc  03

Progressive Voting:
1528 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
1227 - McKay, Harrison (0)
1223 - Curnow, Edward (0)
1082 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1070 - Saad, Adam (0)
905 - Jones, Liam (0)
739 - Docherty, Sam (0)
474 - Betts, Eddie (0)
290 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
229 - William, Zac (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
180 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
157 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
156 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
144 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
104 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
103 - Murphy, Marc (0)
78 - Newnes, Jack (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
69 - Martin, Jack (0)
67 - Owies, Matthew (0)
56 - Newman, Nicholas (0)
53 - Fisher, Zac (0)
46 - Stocker, Liam (0)
22 - de Koning, Tom (0)
20 - Setterfield, Will (0)
19 - Dow, Patrick (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)


Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: Blue Moon on June 19, 2021, 01:14:04 pm
I notice Walsh's progressive total is not on this week. Does this mean that we are so certain Walsh will win it this year that we have lost interest and we are now only interested in whether Weitering will be second or not. It is notable that Weitering and Walsh are going to quinella this award two years in a row.
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on June 19, 2021, 02:21:51 pm
I notice Walsh's progressive total is not on this week. Does this mean that we are so certain Walsh will win it this year that we have lost interest and we are now only interested in whether Weitering will be second or not. It is notable that Weitering and Walsh are going to quinella this award two years in a row.
Sorry. My error. I'll fix that. But Walsh is so far in front it isn't funny.
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on June 19, 2021, 02:24:39 pm
3407 - Walsh, Sam (0)
1528 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
1227 - McKay, Harrison (0)
1223 - Curnow, Edward (0)
1082 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1070 - Saad, Adam (0)
905 - Jones, Liam (0)
739 - Docherty, Sam (0)
474 - Betts, Eddie (0)
290 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
229 - William, Zac (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
180 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
157 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
156 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
144 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
104 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
103 - Murphy, Marc (0)
78 - Newnes, Jack (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
69 - Martin, Jack (0)
67 - Owies, Matthew (0)
56 - Newman, Nicholas (0)
53 - Fisher, Zac (0)
46 - Stocker, Liam (0)
22 - de Koning, Tom (0)
20 - Setterfield, Will (0)
19 - Dow, Patrick (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)

Walsh is almost 2000 ahead.
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: Blue Moon on June 19, 2021, 04:09:51 pm
What is the world record for this award? Will Walsh break it?
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on June 19, 2021, 07:33:02 pm
What is the world record for this award? Will Walsh break it?
Good question. I can look through the ones I have recorded, but I can't do much about the previous ones. I'd say he is going to give top spot in my time one hell of a  shake.
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: PaulP on June 19, 2021, 08:02:14 pm
Good question. I can look through the ones I have recorded, but I can't do much about the previous ones. I'd say he is going to give top spot in my time one hell of a  shake.

Cripps' 2019 season might be worth a look. He dominated everything.
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on July 02, 2021, 11:46:33 am
Carlton vs GWS
Another huge disappointment where our players didn’t turn up. We had some good patches, but we just didn’t have the desire on the day.

Trends:
[1]   With another poor effect, the voters were pushed away. Only 10 people voted. This is a very low number.

[2]   The rating was 5.67, the lowest score for the year. We’ve got used to us being competitive, so this effort was poorly received. 5.67 represents an E-.

[3]   Thirteen players managed to get a mention, which is reasonable, but the spread of relatives low scores represents the fact that we didn’t have a lot of winners on the day.

[4]   Only 2 players managed more than 100 votes. They were Matthew Kennedy and Patrick Cripps.

[5]   This was Sam Walsh’s worst game of the season, with 10th being his lowest finish and 20 being his lowest number of votes. On the other hand, it was Kennedy’s best effort by some margin and his 1st BOG.

[6]   Only one player, Kennedy, managed to get votes from every voter. That says a hell of a lot. Cripps and Jones attract most voters.

Votes:
Kennedy, Matthew  249
Cripps, Patrick  127
Jones, Liam  87
McKay, Harrison  72
Stocker, Liam  61
Pittonet, Marc  55
Saad, Adam  52
Weitering, Jacob  49
Owies, Matthew  46
Walsh, Sam 20
Dow, Patrick 19
Fisher, Zac 12
Docherty, Sam  3

Progressive Votes:
3427 - Walsh, Sam (0)
1577 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
1299 - McKay, Harrison (0)
1223 - Curnow, Edward (0)
1209 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1122 - Saad, Adam (0)
991 - Jones, Liam (0)
742 - Docherty, Sam (0)
474 - Betts, Eddie (0)
290 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
249 - Kennedy, Matthew (0)
229 - William, Zac (0)
199 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
180 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
157 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
156 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
114 - Owies, Matthew (0)
106 - Stocker, Liam (0)
104 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
103 - Murphy, Marc (0)
78 - Newnes, Jack (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
69 - Martin, Jack (0)
64 - Fisher, Zac (0)
56 - Newman, Nicholas (0)
36 - Dow, Patrick (0)
22 - de Koning, Tom (0)
20 - Setterfield, Will (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)

Walsh retains his lead of close to 2000 votes. Weitering has solidified 2nd spot, but after that things are relatively close between 3 players.
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on July 05, 2021, 02:55:47 pm
It is just so much no9cer doing this after a win!

Carlton vs Adelaide at Marvel
After three ordinary performances in a row, it was very nice to see the Blues get over the line.

Trends:
[1]   We had only 12 people voting for this game, which is hugely down for what is normal for a win. Usually when we win, we get between 17 – 19 voters. 12 voters is a number more common when we lose.
Hopefully, we can reverse that process next week.

[2]   At 8.92, this win was rated among the best we have for the season. A huge increase after last week, where we as bad as we have been this season. Considering the GWS just beat Melbourne, that loss may not have been quite as bad as we first considered. A score of 8.92 is almost a B.

[3]   16 players managed a mention this week, which is a significant improvement over last week.

[4]   4 players managed more than 100 votes this week, double what we got last week. Not only that, but Sam Walsh again had a standout game that scored very highly.

[5]   For the 8th time this season Sam Walsh was BOG. That is an outstanding effort. He not been outside the top 10 vote getters in any game this season.

[6]   Liam Jones deserves a mention for three straight top 3 performances. He is having a fine season.

[7]   3 players got votes from every voter, Walsh, Jones and Weitering. Three others got close.

[8]   Zac Williams continues his improved performances since being moved back into defence. Not yet what we were hoping for, but he is, at least, earning some of his money. Adam Saad, however, is still looking to be our best pick-up at this point. His is attracting votes and is averaging more possessions this year than in any previous one.

[9]   Paddy Dow continues his resurrection, getting votes for the 3rd time in a row. This was his best effort for the year to date.

Votes:
Walsh, Sam 334
Jones, Liam 227
Weitering, Jacob 157
Saad, Adam 111
William, Zac 85
Dow, Patrick 82
Stocker, Liam 71
Betts, Eddie 63
Kennedy, Matthew 63
Cripps, Patrick 37
de Koning, Tom 37
Curnow, Edward 19
Newman, Nicholas 19
Plowman, Lachlan 11
Petrevski - Seton, Sam 7
Owies, Matthew 4

Progressive Voting:
3762 - Walsh, Sam (0)
1744 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
1299 - McKay, Harrison (0)
1246 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1242 - Curnow, Edward (0)
1234 - Saad, Adam (0)
1218 - Jones, Liam (0)
742 - Docherty, Sam (0)
537 - Betts, Eddie (0)
315 - William, Zac (0)
312 - Kennedy, Matthew (0)
290 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
199 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
180 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
177 - Stocker, Liam (0)
167 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
164 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
118 - Dow, Patrick (0)
117 - Owies, Matthew (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
104 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
103 - Murphy, Marc (0)
78 - Newnes, Jack (0)
74 - Newman, Nicholas (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
69 - Martin, Jack (0)
64 - Fisher, Zac (0)
59 - de Koning, Tom (0)
20 - Setterfield, Will (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)


Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on July 17, 2021, 02:41:31 pm
Carlton vs Fremantle at the MCG
Another solid effort against a team that had pretentions of finals action. It would have been nice if we could have managed a 4 quarter effort, but we can't have everything.

Trends:
[1]   There were 16 voters this week, which 4 better than last round and 1 less than for the same round last year. Not yet back to our best, but nice to see the numbers on the up.

[2]   The rating this week was 8.90, which represents a B. This is the 4th best for the season. Does this say something about our season? I think so.

[3]   For the second week in a row 16 players deserved a mention. This is impressive in anyone’s language. I guess it shows that when we win, it tends to be a real team effort.

[4]   4 players managed 100 or more votes this week, also for the second week in a row.

[5]   It was another Weitering-Walsh Quinella, with those players being in 1st and second spots for the 4th time this season.

[6]   Four players managed to get votes from every voter, including Paddy Dow for the first time.

[7]   Jack Martin continues to disappoint. Whether he is fully fit is an issue, as he hasn’t made an impact for more than a quarter. Saad, on the other hand, continues to be more than serviceable. He has been a good pick-up.

Votes:
Weitering, Jacob 257
Walsh, Sam 245
Dow, Patrick 170
Silvagni, Jack 153
Cripps, Patrick 89
Newman, Nicholas 89
Jones, Liam 86
Kennedy, Matthew 78
Stocker, Liam 50
Betts, Eddie 42
Saad, Adam 28
Curnow, Edward 11
McKay, Harrison 6
Plowman, Lachlan 6
de Koning, Tom 6
Owies, Matthew 4

Progressive Voting:
4006 - Walsh, Sam (0)
2019 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
1335 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1305 - McKay, Harrison (0)
1304 - Jones, Liam (0)
1261 - Saad, Adam (0)
1253 - Curnow, Edward (0)
742 - Docherty, Sam (0)
579 - Betts, Eddie (0)
390 - Kennedy, Matthew (0)
333 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
315 - William, Zac (0)
290 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
288 - Dow, Patrick (0)
227 - Stocker, Liam (0)
199 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
172 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
164 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
163 - Newman, Nicholas (0)
120 - Owies, Matthew (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
104 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
103 - Murphy, Marc (0)
78 - Newnes, Jack (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
69 - Martin, Jack (0)
64 - de Koning, Tom (0)
64 - Fisher, Zac (0)
20 - Setterfield, Will (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on July 23, 2021, 06:01:57 pm
Carlton vs Geelong:
One that got away.  Not our worst game, but our worst kicking.

Trends:
[1]   There were 12 voters this week, which is pretty average for a loss. Last week we managed 16, but that was a win. We had 13 voters for this round last year.

[2]   The rating this week was 7.72, which represents a C-. Disappointing, as we had a lot going for us. But our disposal was so ordinary.

[3]   There were 11 players who managed a mention this week, which is somewhat down from last week.

[4]   We had 4 players who managed 100 votes or more. Normally, this is a good sign. But this week it isn’t: it meant that we had only a couple of 4 quarter winners.

[5]   It was another Weitering/Walsh quinella, where both players managed excellent scores.

[6]   Only two players managed votes from every voter.

Votes:
Walsh, Sam 364
Weitering, Jacob 364
Saad, Adam 145
Plowman, Lachlan 125
Silvagni, Jack 64
Newnes, Jack 32
de Koning, Tom 29
Stocker, Liam 13
Curnow, Edward 10
Newman, Nicholas 10
Williamson, Tom 3

Progressive Voting:
4370 - Walsh, Sam (0)
2383 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
1406 - Saad, Adam (0)
1335 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1305 - McKay, Harrison (0)
1304 - Jones, Liam (0)
1262 - Curnow, Edward (0)
742 - Docherty, Sam (0)
579 - Betts, Eddie (0)
397 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
390 - Kennedy, Matthew (0)
315 - William, Zac (0)
298 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
290 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
288 - Dow, Patrick (0)
240 - Stocker, Liam (0)
199 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
173 - Newman, Nicholas (0)
164 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
120 - Owies, Matthew (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
110 - Newnes, Jack (0)
104 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
103 - Murphy, Marc (0)
93 - de Koning, Tom (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
69 - Martin, Jack (0)
64 - Fisher, Zac (0)
20 - Setterfield, Will (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)
4 - Williamson, Tom (0)
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on July 29, 2021, 07:30:25 pm
Carlton vs. Collingwood!
A win for the ages! If we played with the same heart each week, we would never lose!

Trends:
[1]   Only 13 people voted this round! I found it amazing, as we beat our oldest foe, but nobody was interested in voting.
Serious, wins usually have between 17 to 19 votes. 13 is only one more than our usual for a loss!

[2]   The rating, 9.36, was the highest we’ve managed this year! That represents a B+. In that, it is unusual. We usually have a couple of games each year which score an overall A. Not his time, but there are 4 rounds left.

[3]   Sam Walsh was BOG again. This is the 10th time this season he’s been our BOG. Those numbers are Judd-like!

[4]   There were 15 players who got a mention this week, a very solid number. A lot of players did their bit.

[5]   4 players managed 100 votes or better this week. That has been typical of our wins this year.

[6]   There were 1404 votes in total this week, which is the highest for the year. This is something special, considering that only 13 people voted.

[7]   Only Sam Walsh got votes from everyone this week. The other three top votes getters missed out by at least one voter.

[8]   Jacob Weitering continues to have a strong season. He has only missed top 10 status for 2 games so far. Liam Stocker can celebrate five games in a row in the top 10, the only five of his career to date. Jack Silvagni has also been significant in voting of late.

Votes:
Walsh, Sam 464
Kennedy, Matthew 281
Weitering, Jacob 223
Silvagni, Jack 151
McKay, Harrison 65
Stocker, Liam 58
Martin, Jack 50
Dow, Patrick 29
Curnow, Edward 22
de Koning, Tom 22
Betts, Eddie 14
Fisher, Zac 11
Jones, Liam 7
Saad, Adam 4
Cottrell, Matthew 4

Progressive Votes:
4834 - Walsh, Sam (0)
2606 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
1410 - Saad, Adam (0)
1369 - McKay, Harrison (0)
1335 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1311 - Jones, Liam (0)
1284 - Curnow, Edward (0)
742 - Docherty, Sam (0)
671 - Kennedy, Matthew (0)
593 - Betts, Eddie (0)
548 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
317 - Dow, Patrick (0)
315 - William, Zac (0)
298 - Stocker, Liam (0)
298 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
290 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
199 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
173 - Newman, Nicholas (0)
164 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
120 - Owies, Matthew (0)
119 - Martin, Jack (0)
115 - de Koning, Tom (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
110 - Newnes, Jack (0)
107 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
103 - Murphy, Marc (0)
75 - Fisher, Zac (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
20 - Setterfield, Will (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)
4 - Williamson, Tom (0)

Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on August 05, 2021, 09:47:00 pm
Carlton vs North Melbourne
If last round was a win for the ages, this was probably the worst loss of the year. North were on the bottom. However, with the injuries we have, the result was not that ridiculous: it just hurt!

Trends:
{1]   Only 7 people bothered to vote this round, but far the lowest I can ever recall. We usually get about 12 voters when we lose, but this was something else. This round last year we had 18 voters.

[2]   That said, it was not the lowest rating of the year. 5.93 might not be a great rating, but it is higher than higher than it was in two earlier games. And it was not the lowest number of votes. The rating represents an E.

[3]   Four players managed 100 + votes, but none of the scores was particularly high. When we win, someone usually get 300+. Top votes this round was just 153.

[4]   Congratulations to Jack Silvagni for his first BOG. His recent form has been nothing short of excellent.

[5]   12 players managed a mention this round, which is not that bad. Unfortunately, many didn’t get many votes. SPS was dropped after garnering 13 votes.

[6]   Two players, Cripps and Silvagni got votes from every voter. Walsh missed one.

[7]   Sam Walsh continued his run of top 2 finishes.

Votes:
Silvagni, Jack 153
Walsh, Sam 145
Cripps, Patrick 145
Newman, Nicholas 111
Saad, Adam 77
Newnes, Jack 68
Curnow, Edward 60
de Koning, Tom 51
Dow, Patrick 43
Martin, Jack 17
Jones, Liam 13
Petrevski - Seton, Sam 13

Progressive Votes:
4979 - Walsh, Sam (0)
2606 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
1486 - Saad, Adam (0)
1480 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1369 - McKay, Harrison (0)
1343 - Curnow, Edward (0)
1324 - Jones, Liam (0)
742 - Docherty, Sam (0)
701 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
671 - Kennedy, Matthew (0)
593 - Betts, Eddie (0)
359 - Dow, Patrick (0)
315 - William, Zac (0)
298 - Stocker, Liam (0)
298 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
290 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
283 - Newman, Nicholas (0)
199 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
178 - Newnes, Jack (0)
177 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
166 - de Koning, Tom (0)
136 - Martin, Jack (0)
120 - Owies, Matthew (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
107 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
103 - Murphy, Marc (0)
75 - Fisher, Zac (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
20 - Setterfield, Will (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)
4 - Williamson, Tom (0)

Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on August 12, 2021, 08:18:12 pm
Carlton vs St. Kilda
One of our better wins for the season, considering what we had available. Pity we couldn't play out the four quarters.

Trends:
[1]   There were 14 voters for this game, only 2 above the lowest number we’ve had for a win. With no crowd, and our poor recent form, we probably won’t get better until next year.

[2]   The rating, 9.83, was the best of the year. This represents an A-. Fair enough too, consider the players we have available.

[3]   We had 5 players get 100+ votes, the best of the year. That was a real positive in an ordinary season.

[4]   Very close at the top this week between Walsh and Silvagni. Brilliant efforts from both of them.

[5]   16 players had a mention this week, which is also the best we’ve managed since I was doing this job. That was truly magnificent. Pity we can’t manage it each week. It would do much for our mental health. Especially mine.

[6]   Only [color=limegreen]one[/color] player, Jack Silvagni, got votes from everyone. Two others got votes from all but one.

[7]   Sam Walsh continues to have top 2 finishes. Brilliant effort from a brilliant player.

Votes:
Silvagni, Jack 323
Walsh, Sam 316
Kennedy, Matthew 186
McKay, Harrison 169
Cripps, Patrick 123
Dow, Patrick 70
Weitering, Jacob 53
Jones, Liam 49
O'Brien, Lochie 46
Honey, Joshua 39
Curnow, Edward 32
Williamson, Tom 32
Saad, Adam 18
Newman, Nicholas 11
Fisher, Zac 7
Newnes, Jack 4

Progressive Voting:
5295 - Walsh, Sam (0)
2659 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
1603 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1538 - McKay, Harrison (0)
1504 - Saad, Adam (0)
1375 - Curnow, Edward (0)
1373 - Jones, Liam (0)
1024 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
857 - Kennedy, Matthew (0)
742 - Docherty, Sam (0)
593 - Betts, Eddie (0)
429 - Dow, Patrick (0)
315 - William, Zac (0)
298 - Stocker, Liam (0)
298 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
294 - Newman, Nicholas (0)
290 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
199 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
182 - Newnes, Jack (0)
177 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
166 - de Koning, Tom (0)
136 - Martin, Jack (0)
120 - Owies, Matthew (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
107 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
103 - Murphy, Marc (0)
82 - Fisher, Zac (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
46 - O'Brien, Lochie (0)
39 - Honey, Joshua (0)
35 - Williamson, Tom (0)
20 - Setterfield, Will (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on August 30, 2021, 02:00:15 am
Carlton vs Gold Coast
Probably the most disheartening loss of the year and one of the reasons David Teague is history. Such a huge disappointment.

Trends:
[1]   There were 7 voters this week. There were 14 for the same round last year. There were 14 voters last week. I think that probably shows just how turned off our supporters are at the moment.

[2]   The rating of 6.14 wasn’t quite a disaster, but it said everything. That represents little more than an E. Poor, against a team that got thrashed previously and subsequently.

[3]   We had 3 players only get 100 votes or more. That compared to five for the previous game.

[4]   13 players managed a mention.

[5]   Nobody got votes from everybody this week. Not one.

[6]   Congratulations to Nick Newman for being BOG, his first of the year.

Votes:
Newman, Nicholas 246
Weitering, Jacob 189
Walsh, Sam 136
Jones, Liam 83
Kennedy, Matthew 79
Curnow, Edward 70
Honey, Joshua 35
Cripps, Patrick 26
Martin, Jack 26
Newnes, Jack 13
de Koning, Tom 9
Stocker, Liam 4
Plowman, Lachlan 4

Progressive Votes:
5431 - Walsh, Sam (0)
2848 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
1629 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1538 - McKay, Harrison (0)
1504 - Saad, Adam (0)
1457 - Jones, Liam (0)
1445 - Curnow, Edward (0)
1024 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
936 - Kennedy, Matthew (0)
742 - Docherty, Sam (0)
593 - Betts, Eddie (0)
540 - Newman, Nicholas (0)
429 - Dow, Patrick (0)
315 - William, Zac (0)
302 - Stocker, Liam (0)
302 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
290 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
199 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
195 - Newnes, Jack (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
177 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
175 - de Koning, Tom (0)
163 - Martin, Jack (0)
120 - Owies, Matthew (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
107 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
103 - Murphy, Marc (0)
82 - Fisher, Zac (0)
74 - Honey, Joshua (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
46 - O'Brien, Lochie (0)
35 - Williamson, Tom (0)
20 - Setterfield, Will (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)

First and second are set in stone. Pretty close behind them.

Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on August 30, 2021, 02:02:52 am
Carlton vs Port Adelaide:
One great half (1.75 quarters, anyway), and the rest doesn't require thought. Disgraceful. Unprofessional.

Trends:
[1]   There were 8 voters this week, a slight improvement.

[2]   The rating of 5.25 was very poor. That represents F+, almost.

[3]   We had 3 players only get 100 votes or more.

[4]   9 players managed a mention. That is very poor and so unlike your normal efforts.

[5]   Nobody got votes from everybody this week. For the 2nd week in a row!

[6]   Sam Walsh was BOG. Until ¾ time, he was easily the best on the ground, but he had 1 possession in the last quarter.

Votes:
Walsh, Sam 248
Weitering, Jacob 195
Kennedy, Matthew 180
de Koning, Tom 53
Honey, Joshua 38
Saad, Adam 30
Murphy, Marc 30
Curnow, Edward 8
Durdin, Corey 8

[Progressive Voting:
5678 - Walsh, Sam (0)
3043 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
1629 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1538 - McKay, Harrison (0)
1534 - Saad, Adam (0)
1457 - Jones, Liam (0)
1453 - Curnow, Edward (0)
1116 - Kennedy, Matthew (0)
1024 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
742 - Docherty, Sam (0)
593 - Betts, Eddie (0)
540 - Newman, Nicholas (0)
429 - Dow, Patrick (0)
315 - William, Zac (0)
302 - Stocker, Liam (0)
302 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
290 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
227 - de Koning, Tom (0)
199 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
195 - Newnes, Jack (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
177 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
163 - Martin, Jack (0)
133 - Murphy, Marc (0)
120 - Owies, Matthew (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
112 - Honey, Joshua (0)
107 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
82 - Fisher, Zac (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
46 - O'Brien, Lochie (0)
35 - Williamson, Tom (0)
20 - Setterfield, Will (0)
8 - Durdin, Corey (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)



Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on September 03, 2021, 03:12:26 pm
Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS.
Few of our honourable losses were less honourable than this one. We really put it to GWS for all but a few minutes on either side of half time. But that wasn't enough. Again. Heartbreak. :( :(

Trends:
[1]   The voters weren’t tempted to make much of an appearance. There were 9 this week, which is not our worst. However, we get double that number and more when we’re winning.

[2]   We put up a much better effort and weren’t far away from a real contender. That wasn’t bad for half a team (or less). The rating, 8.04, reflected that. That represents a C.

[3]   4 players managed 100 votes of more, which is truly respectful. Last week we struggled to get 3.

[4]   3 players managed to get votes from everyone, which is a considerable improvement over the last couple of weeks. And another missed by a single voter.

[5]   12 players managed a mention this round, which is also an improvement. Unfortunately, there were a number of these players who contributed very little.

[6]   Congratulations to Ed Curnow for his BOG effort this week. 4 goals from a guy who doesn’t play as a forward says a lot, and not all of it good. This was his 2nd BOG for the year.

[7]   Sam Walsh managed to complete an amazing season. He was only not in the top three vote getters three times for the entire season. Jacob Weitering was similarly impressive. Only thrice did he miss being in the top eight.

Votes:
Curnow, Edward 379
Newman, Nicholas 226
Walsh, Sam 217
Weitering, Jacob 163
de Koning, Tom 90
Stocker, Liam 63
Kennedy, Matthew 36
Betts, Eddie 14
Casboult, Levi 14
Saad, Adam 5
Cripps, Patrick 5
Kemp, Brodie 5
Fogarty, Lachlan 5

Final Cumulative Votes:
5895 - Walsh, Sam (217)
3205 - Weitering, Jacob (163)
1832 - Curnow, Edward (380)
1634 - Cripps, Patrick (5)
1538 - Saad, Adam (5)
1538 - McKay, Harrison (0)
1457 - Jones, Liam (0)
1152 - Kennedy, Matthew (37)
1024 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
765 - Newman, Nicholas (226)
742 - Docherty, Sam (0)
607 - Betts, Eddie (14)
429 - Dow, Patrick (0)
365 - Stocker, Liam (64)
318 - de Koning, Tom (91)
315 - William, Zac (0)
302 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
294 - Fogarty, Lachlan (5)
199 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
195 - Newnes, Jack (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
177 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
163 - Martin, Jack (0)
133 - Murphy, Marc (0)
120 - Owies, Matthew (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
112 - Honey, Joshua (0)
107 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
88 - Casboult, Levi (14)
82 - Fisher, Zac (0)
46 - O'Brien, Lochie (0)
35 - Williamson, Tom (0)
20 - Setterfield, Will (0)
8 - Durdin, Corey (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)
5 - Kemp, Brodie (5)



Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: LoveNavy on September 03, 2021, 07:15:48 pm
What a superb job you've done crash.

It's always a well organized, timely, objective, good humoured thread. I'm grateful to you 👏🏽 and suggest you nominate for CFC board 😉
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: percy on September 03, 2021, 08:26:19 pm
Great job as always Crash. I am sure everyone here really appreciates your hard work putting this thread together.👍
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: kruddler on September 03, 2021, 09:22:15 pm
Fun Fact.
Walsh could've finished first even if he missed the last 10 games.
He had more points after R12 than weitering ended up with after 22 in 2nd.

Machine!
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: DJC on September 04, 2021, 06:08:17 pm
Thanks Crash - appreciate your efforts!
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: madbluboy on September 04, 2021, 06:26:34 pm
Fun Fact.
Walsh could've finished first even if he missed the last 10 games.
He had more points after R12 than weitering ended up with after 22 in 2nd.

Machine!

He is top 5 in the comp already. Will probably be number 1 next year.
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: Blue Moon on September 07, 2021, 03:23:23 pm
Thanks Crash for all your work.
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: LP on September 07, 2021, 04:25:25 pm
I don't read The Hun, but I heard that in an article about Carlton Buckenara doesn't even rate Walsh an A-Grader.

Surely somebody is taking the piss! :o
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on September 07, 2021, 07:29:34 pm
I don't read The Hun, but I heard that in an article about Carlton Buckenara doesn't even rate Walsh an A-Grader.

Surely somebody is taking the piss! :o
If it is Buckenara's position, then he has even less idea than Kane Cornes, and that is saying something.
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: crashlander on September 07, 2021, 07:41:13 pm
It says a lot about our season that 35 players this season managed to get some votes. Considering that some guys who played didn't manage a vote at all, it suggests that we haven't had a stable team.
That is an understatement. One of the things about successful teams is that they generally have a lot of stability in their line-up. Maybe our new coaching staff will manage to find that stability, but I doubt it.

One way of getting stability is to have few injuries. That is a trick we haven't managed this century yet. Certainly Russell cannot be the only source of blame: this trend goes back to the mid 90's at least. We have had at least 5 fitness guys since then: are they all duds? Very unlikely.
Do we blame out medical staff? Another good question with the same not very good answer. Now we have links with LaTrobe University's Sport's medicine people, it would be reasonable to expect that we have better results than other clubs. But we don't.
I know I go on about injuries, but teams that have a large portion of their best players off the field regularly don't make finals and don't win flags.
For example, how many votes did Charlie Curnow get this year?
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: kruddler on September 07, 2021, 09:12:29 pm
It says a lot about our season that 35 players this season managed to get some votes. Considering that some guys who played didn't manage a vote at all, it suggests that we haven't had a stable team.
That is an understatement. One of the things about successful teams is that they generally have a lot of stability in their line-up. Maybe our new coaching staff will manage to find that stability, but I doubt it.

One way of getting stability is to have few injuries. That is a trick we haven't managed this century yet. Certainly Russell cannot be the only source of blame: this trend goes back to the mid 90's at least. We have had at least 5 fitness guys since then: are they all duds? Very unlikely.
Do we blame out medical staff? Another good question with the same not very good answer. Now we have links with LaTrobe University's Sport's medicine people, it would be reasonable to expect that we have better results than other clubs. But we don't.
I know I go on about injuries, but teams that have a large portion of their best players off the field regularly don't make finals and don't win flags.
For example, how many votes did Charlie Curnow get this year?

Causation or correlation.....
Our club is a mess.
As a result it puts extra stress on the players, albeit mentally, not physically.
However, could the mental stress translate to physical injuries?

Mens Sana in corpore sano

More injuries this year than just about any other, more stress on the players and the club too.
So....causation or correlation?
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: DJC on September 08, 2021, 09:45:49 am
I don't read The Hun, but I heard that in an article about Carlton Buckenara doesn't even rate Walsh an A-Grader.

Surely somebody is taking the piss! :o

Buckenara had Walsh in his top ten for the 2018 draft but rated four or five players ahead of him.  He won't concede that Walsh is an A-Grader until/unless his top four or five are and/or he's forced to do so by Walsh's overwhelming accolades.

Buckenara doesn't get much wrong ... in his own opinion  ::)
Title: Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Post by: LP on September 08, 2021, 11:10:54 am
Buckenara doesn't get much wrong ... in his own opinion  ::)
He's not a bad bloke, I've had quite a few chats with him down at the Frankston VFL ground where he is/was the venue manager, not sure if he still is.

But I think he's missed the whole board on that throw, some of it might be the doing of his editor, the old journo trick of adding some controversy to boost readers. If he is still around next time I get to a game at Frankston I'll ask him! ;D