Okeefe is playing for his career...Bootsma isnt...Okeefe is also more physically developed and we need stronger bodies in the seniors.....we need a good kicking half back flanker with Scotland close to retiring and Gibbs now more likely to be playing further up the ground. Big rewards if Okeefe makes it as a player and Bootsma has time on his side to develop...
I don't think O'Keeffe is tall enough to be a direct swap out for Bootsma, O'Keeffe is more likely to get a run if someone like Tuohy or Armfield went down.
If Crameri plays again O'Keeffe could do a job on him perhaps, but the other forwards O'Keeffe is either too small or too slow.
Having to rotate Waite back to cover for Bootsma being sub'd is not ideal, if we started with O'Keeffe we would already be starting with a very small defensive line up and would lose some of that flexibility. Waite did play better in defense but doesn't look like a defender, that is not his mindset he is more like a taller and slower version of Walker.
Not seeing the weekend game live I did not notice on the replay, but did Bootsma get anytime up forward?
It will be interesting to see how they all go against the EssenScum who I think have a much harder defensive unit than Nthmond!
Sorry but you earn your games in the CFC, not as if Bootsma does much in the twos anyway.
Fair enough to say you need to earn a game, but not fair I think to say Bootsma didn't deserve a run. I cannot say I had watched him directly in recent weeks but my mail is Bootsma probably played his best three weeks of football for the club prior to his recall, and he did that as a KPD. So given Watson went down, White is out for the season and Laidler and Duigan continue to struggle for consistency he seemed the logical if not he only choice!
I respect Kingy and Lynchy's opinions but I'm sure they don't watch every game of football played so it only makes sense that I would have seen more of Yarran they did. Come to think of it weren't you overseas a couple of years ago?
Looking at the best and fairest for 2011 he finished 10th so that sits about right with my memory of how he played, middle of the road and that was his best year.
No doubt softening memories have them confusing Betts with Yarran, Yarran has never been consistent and Betts should have been AA!
When I went to bed, we were no wicket down for just on 100, I get up this morning to hear on the news we were rolled for 220, that is appalling & thoroughly embarrassing.
Where's the backbone ??
Was drifting off to sleep and actually thought the score was 0 for 200.
Probably the part where I went in at no.3 and knocked up a quick 70 not out to get us over the line should have tipped me off.
Sewell is too slow, even the Dawks realise they cannot have Mitchell, Sewell and Lewis in the midfield together as opposition teams expose them for pace.
We already have too many slower leg types, McLean, Cachia and Curnow. We need some bigger bodies who have pace to work an opponent over. We should be developing guys like Armfield, Tuohy and maybe McInnes to have a midfield rotation as attacking players not as taggers, that will add to someone like Bell and Carrazzo. This would allow the likes of Murphy, Betts and Yarran to stay and work outside were they are best suited.
Not sure you watched the Norp game but Ling's comments about Harvey showed you what smart players and teams can do. They knew Harvey was Norps prime clearance and spread player. But the Norp at the time had nobody else winning as much inside ball either. Ling knew he could not go with Harvey for outside pace and that the other Norp mids were covered. So he said he would shove Harvey into as many congested situations as possible to prevent his spread and it was job done. Now with the new Norp midfield it wouldn't be so easy as they have Swallow, Ziebel and Wells in support! Does that story remind you of anyone, it should that is the same tactic being used against Murphy!
Big rumor MM gave Watson a massive spray about toughening up. In effect if he wanted to be an AFL footballer he could not let a sore foot get in the way!
Now it turns out the kid had a broken bone!
Ouch! If true a bit harsh, could be an apology on the cards!
Where does the rumour come from?
Was told at the pub Watson had some mates, Bumbers fans so not sure they can be trusted, that were sitting behind the CFC bench who overheard a spray and talked about it in one of the bars/pubs after the game. Hopefully just a no substance rumor!
Big rumor MM gave Watson a massive spray about toughening up. In effect if he wanted to be an AFL footballer he could not let a sore foot get in the way!
Now it turns out the kid had a broken bone!
Ouch! If true a bit harsh, could be an apology on the cards!
Perhaps it is harsh for MM to be pointing a finger, but having said that Ratten had the players back and what good did that do him or the club?
Something has to change, and I do not think it is necessarily in the coaching or administration staff. I mentioned in another thread, there appears to be a clique that exists between certain Carlton players. To me that means a lack of unity!
Makes you wonder how J. Madden would have done in today's game!!
Madden would do OK, he would be far closer to Sandilands than is Warnock.
Madden could take marks forward and back. Tackle and hurt opponents physically, and with his goal kicking. His tap work compared to Warnock was sublime!
With Port's loss we had everything to play for. It was the insipid nature of the capitulation that is most disturbing. We were weighed measured and found wanting...."big time".
It's not like these guys don't have the ability. What they lack is the desire...yet the same playing group have displayed that desire in the past. What is wrong?
Supporters have not given up on the season, the players have!
There is also something rotten in Denmark, anyone who has played football for any length of time can see it in the on field efforts. It stands out like a sore thumb, and has nothing to do with the coach.
Cohesion is zero, sacrifice is zero, support is zero and care is zero.
The players do not care, like or respect each other, they are a bunch of individuals. There is no team bonding!
Kreuzer is a bloody good footballer playing in an average team, Warnock, Casboult, Rowe and Hampson are spuds who wouldn't get a game anywhere but Carlton.
Unfortunately for us, that is quite true although if the media are to be believed, Hampson does attract some interest from the others clubs.
That is because as a ruck Hampson is good enough.
Look at our list, we have; - Walker playing backline after being borderline AA as a forward. - Yarran playing nowhere anybody knows. - Hendo playing forward after being in A Grade form as a defender. - Simpson a first class wing is playing in defense. - McLean a grunt midfielder playing on a wing.
We take players who are good enough at AFL level and try to turn them into something they are not. If Cooney had been at Carlton we would have him as a KPD by now!
EB1/LP... that became crystal this arvo. Sad, but true. I watched Meat this arvo and he does and would offer more than Rowey and 206.
Baggers, 15 years ago 206 would have been a superstar, if he could influence the game like Sandilands he still would be. But having a bloke get twice the critical stats of an opponent yet be clearly beaten is a massive tell. If Kreuzer, Hampson or Casboult had 48 taps our midfield would have smashed the Bulldogs.
