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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
You cant be on 800k a year and turn the ball over like he did vs good teams like Geelong. As was pointed out by "Pinot"his efforts or lack of led to 3-4 goals being scored by Geelong and the attacking value he gives isnt worth his lack of defensive prowess. His disposal is way overrated imho and I wouldnt have him in my best 22 and he is very fortunate we are down on troops with injury and he doesnt have much competition for his spot.
Stengle at 175cm/73kg outbodied Zac 183cm/84kg in the goal square for an easy mark and goal which was just garbage defense from our man imo...its very hard to hold your place in the backline as an attacking only player and your skillset and decision making has to be at the Nick Daicos level to get away with it and Zac is nowhere near that high bar.
I hear you brother, I agree completely. Drafting him in the first place was a mistake (IMO), promised him a gig in the midfield which failed miserably. His deficiencies in defence get masked somewhat by the likes of Saad, Gov and even Doc when he played there. Right now, we have a defender shortage and he has to do a defensive job, he failed miserably on the weekend.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: Lods on
That's the thing though
Pittonet and Tom 'are' very different ruckmen.

And both would be well within the best 22 at the moment.
Would you drop Pittonet or Tom to add 'one of'  Cincotta, Binns, Durdin, Owies, Carroll, Cowan, either Hollands etc etc.

Right now, i'd drop Young for Cincotta. Give Kemp the lockdown role and allow Cincotta to cover the intercept role, which adds more run.

When the game starts getting wetter, you'd think about dropping one more tall. We'll wait and see who is out of form at the time.
The decision is made easier right now because we don't have Silvagni available, or any other option for 3rd tall.

There was never any doubt about their 'styles of ruck' or that they compliment eachother. The issue was they they were both doing not very much around the ground.....at all.
TDK was lacking in ruck area, and performing worse than Silvagni as a forward......but better than Pittonet as a non-ruck option.
Pittonet was performing better in the ruck, but not doing enough around the ground.

BOTH of them are not only performing better around the ground, but both are being genuine options around the ground and up forward.
Pittonet kicked a goal first game back. TDK kicked 3 last week, and 0.3 this week. I showed stats on pittonets ruck AND around the ground work and how it was the same or better than both rucks combined....and even 2 mids combined in clearances.
That kind of form from both of them was nowhere to be seen last year. THAT is what has changed......and thankfully its changed when the cupboard is very bare behind them.

However,
Once we start getting players back, if you want to play both rucks in your 22, you are leaving out someone like Kennedy, Cottrell, Hollands (x2), Williams.....etc.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: madbluboy on
If he staged then he should be suspended. I would like the AFL to come out and say it was a free kick or he staged.
Watched it a few times on video and there appears to be high contact of sorts but ZW also appears to have exaggerated the force of the contact and the umpires ignored it due to the extra mayo he applied.
It probably should have been a free but you cant expect to get those all the time either and he should have played through the contact and not let Geelong(Henry) have a zero contest situation.
The umpires were terrible overall imo and let play go especially holding the ball/man situations and you just have to be able to read the game and how its being umpired and know that it was unlikely they would make that call as high contact imho and not gamble they might.
Saying all that I have just read Henry has been charged with striking Zac Williams which I presume was the same incident so the MRO has deemed the contact severe enough and should have been a free kick to our man ....more to play out in this saga and you were justified in calling for the AFL to adjudicate on the decision.