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Princes Park => Robert Heatley Stand => Topic started by: DJC on February 20, 2019, 07:57:57 pm

Title: Northern Blues 2019
Post by: DJC on February 20, 2019, 07:57:57 pm
Josh Fraser sets up for the 2019 season:

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2019-02-20/fraser-optimistic-about-vfl-fortunes

So many variables impact on our VFL fortunes but we could be in for a good season.  If I can get a leave pass, I wouldn't mind getting along to next week's VFL/AFL-JLT double header.

Fraser impresses me.  I can see him progressing to a senior coaching role.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2019
Post by: LP on February 21, 2019, 08:02:38 am
Fraser impresses me.  I can see him progressing to a senior coaching role.

Having him and Teague about should have a significant impact on player development. Listening to Fraser at VFL intervals he strikes me as perhaps the best VFL coach we've had for a long time.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2019
Post by: flyboy77 on February 21, 2019, 11:06:22 am
He does speak very well indeed, surprisingly so.

Perhaps these blokes get public speaking training?
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2019
Post by: DJC on February 21, 2019, 11:38:09 am
He does speak very well indeed, surprisingly so.

Perhaps these blokes get public speaking training?

I'm sure that's part of their professional development.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2019
Post by: madbluboy on February 21, 2019, 01:21:55 pm
They do media training from the moment they're drafted.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2019
Post by: DJC on February 21, 2019, 02:03:16 pm
They do media training from the moment they're drafted.

You can track the improvement from their first nervous interview through to polished performances in their second and third years.

There’s a huge difference between the public speaking ability of AFL players and coaches and their NRL counterparts.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2019
Post by: Amers on February 27, 2019, 08:51:09 pm
Having him and Teague about should have a significant impact on player development. Listening to Fraser at VFL intervals he strikes me as perhaps the best VFL coach we've had for a long time.

Since Teague......
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2019
Post by: DJC on April 10, 2019, 12:47:08 pm
It seems that the NBs have rookied Oskar Minton.  I wasn’t aware that VFL teams had rookies but, if true, good luck to Oskar.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2019
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 10, 2019, 02:50:23 pm
Keiran Collins has a big chance to step up and become a senior player if he can take the next step.....we need another KP backman IMO and one who
has some muscle and can handle stronger forwards.
Sam Fisher is the other who if he can continue his form from last season also has a chance to get a senior chance....
Still have that one spot left to fill at the mid season draft if the club decide to go that way so the above two should be aiming to have a real crack in the 1st half of the season...
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2019
Post by: LP on April 10, 2019, 04:03:22 pm
Keiran Collins has a big chance to step up and become a senior player if he can take the next step.....

I wonder if KC is working with Crippa's sprint coach?

Fwiw, I think I'd have our entire list working with Crippa's sprint coach! :o
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2019
Post by: Thryleon on April 10, 2019, 04:47:19 pm
Keiran Collins has a big chance to step up and become a senior player if he can take the next step.....we need another KP backman IMO and one who
has some muscle and can handle stronger forwards.
Sam Fisher is the other who if he can continue his form from last season also has a chance to get a senior chance....
Still have that one spot left to fill at the mid season draft if the club decide to go that way so the above two should be aiming to have a real crack in the 1st half of the season...

Jesse Palmer is the 3rd.  Has been exposed to AFL before, and playing under Toss Lyon wouldnt have been fun.

He seems to go well at VFL level, and if we needed someone to play small pressure forward, it makes no sense why we went for Gibbons when we had both Palmer, and Fisher under our noses who are simply forwards we are turning into midfielders, rather than the other way around.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2019
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 10, 2019, 07:58:29 pm
Jesse Palmer is the 3rd.  Has been exposed to AFL before, and playing under Toss Lyon wouldnt have been fun.

He seems to go well at VFL level, and if we needed someone to play small pressure forward, it makes no sense why we went for Gibbons when we had both Palmer, and Fisher under our noses who are simply forwards we are turning into midfielders, rather than the other way around.

I thought Palmer came from Port?.....
I was surprised Fisher didnt get a spot ahead of Cottrell.......the latter is more of a negative player and Fisher is a good kick and can find the ball/goals.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2019
Post by: Baggers on April 10, 2019, 08:45:47 pm
It seems that the NBs have rookied Oskar Minton.  I wasn’t aware that VFL teams had rookies but, if true, good luck to Oskar.

Wow, I hope that is true. Be great to see the young bloke in action (I assume you mean Oskar Manton). I actually nursed the young fella when he was a few months old. Amazed that you can rookie a nine year old, because I'm sure it was only eight or nine years ago that I nursed the little fella... **cough, splutter**
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2019
Post by: Thryleon on April 10, 2019, 10:12:10 pm
I thought Palmer came from Port?.....
I was surprised Fisher didnt get a spot ahead of Cottrell.......the latter is more of a negative player and Fisher is a good kick and can find the ball/goals.

Right you are.  I was confused.  Cam o shea warns against palmer.
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2019
Post by: flyboy77 on April 10, 2019, 10:42:03 pm
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2019-04-10/2019-vfl-playing-list-confirmed
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2019
Post by: Thryleon on April 10, 2019, 10:59:36 pm
From what I've seen of Jean luc velissaris he's the best small forward at the club (including afl listed players).
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2019
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 10, 2019, 11:22:52 pm
Caleb and Kyle Quirk from the Eastern ranges now at the NB's are the grandsons of Bryan Quirk I believe....Bryan for those too young to know was a stylish wingman
and part of the famous Quirk, Robertson, Crane centreline.
Us oldies remember the battles vs the equally famous Tiger centreline of Bourke, Barrot, and Clay..
Dont know anything about his grandsons but if they are half as good as their grandad they will be going ok.....
Title: Re: Northern Blues 2019
Post by: ianh on April 12, 2019, 08:30:38 am
As a kid I remember listening in to a conversation a group was having about whether Bourke-Barrot-Clay was the best centreline of all time.  Someone suggested it was at least certainly "the best centreline since the war" to which the oldtimer of the group responded "Yes, and the war before.  But I remember as a boy seeing Bruce-McGregor-Kennedy in the Blues triple premierships of 06-7-8 and they were better".

Doing the maths I would put this conversation at about 60 years later so it is quite possible the oldtimer was telling the truth about seeing them play, and on reputation quite possibly the truth about them being better!