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Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #45
Both the umpiring and commentary were horrendous in the game too......I expect BT to provide ludicrous knee jerk comments but found Joel Selwood both inadequate vocally and uninspiring with his mono tone voice plus he sat on the fence with his thoughts and was unable to provide any insight and was unwilling to commit himself on any controversial 50/50 play umpiring decision etc.
As for the umpiring, about as consistent and accurate as the match review committee and then I read that ex commentator and professional knob Wayne Carey thought the umpires wanted us to win the game and were favouring us with free kicks.... he must have missed the charities to Lynch.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #46
Surely you are taking the piss!

Casboult has played 200 games and averages a goal a game, McKay averages two goals a game and has won a Coleman. Last week Casboult played 86% game time standing in F50 time next to Lukosius and King, and didn't hit the scoreboard. So I'm assuming Levi played as a decoy forward.

FWIW, I suspect we could stand Barb in F50 surrounded by Harry and Charlie and she'd hit the scoreboard by coincidence or perhaps a deflection.


Not talking the actual ability but someone who can play forward and ruck at the same time. Levi was solid enough in both roles. Certainly a reasonable target as a key forward. We have missed Levi and his ability to play the dual role. It allowed us to play an extra runner. Since it's either been 2 rucks or rucking JSOS. We know Harry is a way, way better forward, but Levi was certainly alot better actual ruck. Both certainly good when on the ball around the ground. Harry probably better there too, but Levi was good in that role too, as he was at CHB/ruck for a season. While a master of none Levi was a decent jack of all trades. Don't get to 200 games unless you have something decent.


Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #47
Both the umpiring and commentary were horrendous in the game too......I expect BT to provide ludicrous knee jerk comments but found Joel Selwood both inadequate vocally and uninspiring with his mono tone voice plus he sat on the fence with his thoughts and was unable to provide any insight and was unwilling to commit himself on any controversial 50/50 play umpiring decision etc.
As for the umpiring, about as consistent and accurate as the match review committee and then I read that ex commentator and professional knob Wayne Carey thought the umpires wanted us to win the game and were favouring us with free kicks.... he must have missed the charities to Lynch.

I do expect Selwood to get better as he grows into the role. He'll get feedback as he goes.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #48
15 players played last night from the 2019 GF. 12 Richmond, 3 GWS, 2 of the latter for Richmond, one for us. 14 Tigers played in the 2020 GF.

Hence why I was a little worried still last night. There's enough there to command alot of respect.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #49
I didn't realize Charlie's goal review was ruled holding the ball and we got no score.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #50
I do expect Selwood to get better as he grows into the role. He'll get feedback as he goes.

Might do better if he doesn't get rostered with BT, JB and Richo

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #51
Might do better if he doesn't get rostered with BT, JB and Richo

How about when BT convinced them all that the TDK 50 metre penalty was more than 50m? 

I know we all love to hate Eddie but he was pushed out of commentating Collingwood because of bias  but it was obvious BT and Richo were riding Richmond last night.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #52
I didn't realize Charlie's goal review was ruled holding the ball and we got no score.

Yes. you could hear the umpire in the background saying if it's not a goal it's a free kick.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #53
Yes. you could hear the umpire in the background saying if it's not a goal it's a free kick.

I have never seen that happen before despite numerous incidents that were similar.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #54
I didn't realize Charlie's goal review was ruled holding the ball and we got no score.
Is that right, I didn't realise. Is that why the man on the mark was standing at the top of the square?
UPDATE I Just watched the replay and it was given a behind (score changed from 84 to 85)
UPDATE OF THE UPDATE Boyd kicked a point and they didn't add a behind (score corrected)
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #55
Is that right, I didn't realise. Is that why the man on the mark was standing at the top of the square?
UPDATE I Just watched the replay and it was given a behind (score changed from 84 to 85)
UPDATE OF THE UPDATE Boyd kicked a point and they didn't add a behind (score corrected)

Live I thought we were ripped off by not getting Boyd's point.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #56
I thought Richmond responded pretty strongly after last week's debacle. They didn't give up. Hat tip to them. Do our players know that they are allowed to win by more than a goal?
I thought our tackling was pretty good, our goal kicking was average, our defence was very strong but there is still some disconnect in our forward line.
When McKay was recruited I thought he would be our next Kernahan. Over the past few seasons he had become our next Casboult. He looks like he is going to have a pretty big year. I have been pretty happy with Cuningham and Fogarty so far.
Nothing much more I can say.  Keep winning.
I thought Richmond almost beat us at our own game (fast ball movement) with TO's and errors thwarting it.
I thought Cripps was huge as was TDK, Gov, H and Kemp. Whilst I felt Young did very well on Lynch, who was gifted two goals from horrible frees), I still think he seems to panic. Kemp was undersized and solid and managed to redeem his TO when Rich was coming with same game saving efforts in the dying minutes.
I still dont rate Boyd, I am yet to see this elite kicking. His general field kicking is no better than any one on our list.
Special Mention: Jack Carroll, growing into a fine player before our eyes. Keep going son.
Matty Cottrell should be our set shot coach. As Dunstall always says, run straight, drop straight and you kick straight, Cotters is the epitome of this IMO. He has a beautiful kicking action and many on our list should look to him for advice (that's you Kempy).
H was big and powerful, what a game from the big fella.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #57
Just an explanation. Stephen Kernahan was a player you could rely on as a key forward and leader. Levi Casboult would take strong marks and you would hold your breath while he shot for goal. He was a good player.  Sticks was a great player. When McKay started I thought he could be like Kernahan but over the past few seasons he has kicked like Casboult. This season he has played like the leader and quality player I thought he would be. It is really not that difficult to understand.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #58
Just an explanation. Stephen Kernahan was a player you could rely on as a key forward and leader. Levi Casboult would take strong marks and you would hold your breath while he shot for goal. He was a good player.  Sticks was a great player. When McKay started I thought he could be like Kernahan but over the past few seasons he has kicked like Casboult. This season he has played like the leader and quality player I thought he would be. It is really not that difficult to understand.

Sticks wasn't always the best kick either. Those helicopters were special....lol.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #59
I thought Richmond almost beat us at our own game (fast ball movement) with TO's and errors thwarting it.
I thought Cripps was huge as was TDK, Gov, H and Kemp. Whilst I felt Young did very well on Lynch, who was gifted two goals from horrible frees), I still think he seems to panic. Kemp was undersized and solid and managed to redeem his TO when Rich was coming with same game saving efforts in the dying minutes.
I still dont rate Boyd, I am yet to see this elite kicking. His general field kicking is no better than any one on our list.
Special Mention: Jack Carroll, growing into a fine player before our eyes. Keep going son.
Matty Cottrell should be our set shot coach. As Dunstall always says, run straight, drop straight and you kick straight, Cotters is the epitome of this IMO. He has a beautiful kicking action and many on our list should look to him for advice (that's you Kempy).
H was big and powerful, what a game from the big fella.

Tiges beat by by 21 in contested possessions. That alot considering it was our strength. They easily outscored us from stoppages, again our strength. By contrast, we scored well on transition, which we don't always do.