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You are not wrong DJC. 

Id probably grow my own veggies, then offer some up in a trade, along with an offer of a BBQ at my place or bringing some drinks over and having a chill at theirs.

I'm not going to paint anyone as a victim, villain, or anything of recourse, but I just want to highlight that things are only getting worse and whilst this might be a fire across the bows to highlight that Russia does in fact have something to lose here, if I were in the Russian's shoes, I would be hesitant to back away from this conflict (win or lose).

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/explosion-at-nuclear-airbase-just-150-miles-from-moscow-opens-stunning-new-phase-of-war/ar-AA14V1gm?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=285d929cc67941b98dbb1b43f184efa2

If I were in their shoes, rightly or wrongly, I would be infuriated at having had my enemies armed by my own enemies, and would likely only escalate my acts, and then galvanise my resolve not to lose this war, "whatever it takes".

That's a very dangerous for everyone mode for the Russians to be in. 

I do empathise with the Ukrainians under fire.  No one wants to be in a war and i wonder what the true motivation for all of this is.

Strange how I was warned by DJC for calling Dan Andrews a dickhead but you can call Trump whatever you like.

Very fair point. With apologies to orangutans, I will never use that description for Trump again. Yep, in hindsight that description actually flattered Trump. How about the orange narcissistic c0ckhead?

Agreed, I quite like orangutans, I got to meet one up close once on Borneo.

They left me with an impression of intelligence!

Like narcissists before him, the orange orangutan will destroy all around him before there's any chance of him stopping his rampage.
Only one strategy works against narcissists - accountability, relentless accountability. Use only cold hard facts. Never try to combat them at their own game... they love it.

De Santis will beat him.

Is that a coaching role or an administrative role.  Seems to be a bit of a strange move, but I suppose there are no rules about where people end up.

I'll give you four out of five.
With Grace Tame we have to understand that she has been very damaged by her experiences.
Unless we've had similar experiences we can't possibly understand the depth of feeling and the impact.

We see her being standoffish and dismissive with a Prime Minister, and some get a feeling of 'that's a bit rude.'
Some of us are stronger than others in coping.
But the impact of abuse is more often than not life long.
That will affect the actions, words and behaviour of even the strongest.
I suspect, rightly or wrongly, that Grace often gets the feeling that the supportive words of some folk are not 100% genuine and she finds it difficult to suffer them with a smiley face all the time.
There's an anger there that's hard to hide.
It's a bit off-putting to some folks who think she perhaps needs to harden up and move on but it's a struggle we can never really understand unless we've experienced it.

Rather harsh, Wingman MAV.

Having worked in this business, and with some of the best ad agencies in the caper I do have some knowledge in this area. Market research is only one factor, then there's interpretation of the data, then there's implementation of a strategic marketing and PR plan to reach and motivate the perceived market - that means media usage, creative and image consultants, not to mention industrial psychology input.

Many a well market-researched product has flopped... P76, but that was awhile ago. More recently you can bet that the LNP did their market research before launching their (lame) ad campaign. Perhaps their market research was good, but the interpretation and implementation was woeful. I could site many examples (evidence?) of brands/products that underwent exhaustive market research, yet still failed. Re-branding successfully involves much more than blind adherence to market research. It aint linear.

If market research was the 'be all and end all' as you seem to believe, then every product re-branded using market research would be an instant success. It aint. There's a fair bit of creative, intuitive, experienced interpretation and art involved.