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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Poluting the Moon
I understand everyone's perspective, I started this thread because of the irony surrounding the breakdown of the Chinese Lunar Rover (Yutu, aka Jade Rabbit).

This was a center piece of China's superior technologies, faster, better, cheaper than the rest. Yet in just a few days of operation it failed sitting on the lunar landscape like a piece of rubble in a junk yard.

No doubt just getting it there was a tough gig, but this wasn't some mass produced piece of cheap disposable utility or gadget. It was a beacon of technology, and it is b0rked prematurely.

Contrast this with NASA, JSA and ESO projects. Many had design lives of months or years and still work a decade after their design life.

This comparison tells us something, we should take note!

What about the US rocket that didnt even make it out of the atmosphere?

Problems occur.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Poluting the Moon
Touching on LP's description of generational upward mobile, yada yada yada, that seems to be evident of all the youngsters in modern society.  Its not cultural, it seems to be generational, and global at that.

AS for Japan vs China manufacturing.

Japan have always been traditionally strong manufacturers.  Yamaha (audio and motorcycle) Honda, Sony, Toshiba, Fujitsu, Kawasaki, Isuzu, Suzuki, Toyota, Lexus.  All of it prestigious and quality made goods and services.

The cheap manufacturing really did its thing in the 80's.  We are a throwaway society for it.  Something breaks, you dont fix it, you replace it.  Its cheaper to do that.  Given the way technology is moving these days, that special TV you spent 10 grand on 5 years ago?  Yep, its probably worth less than a grand today.

Unless you are buying a car, or a product like an oven, dishwasher, fridge, washing mashine, the sort of thing that performs a function for you with little innovation in the industry, its not worth spending the extra dollars.

I will buy the most cost effective television.  Note this doesnt mean cheap, this means cheap to run dailly whilst having all the latest features.  No doubt in less than 10 years, todays TV's will be superceded.  The brand is almost irrelevant.  They are all reasonably good unless you go for the cheapest of the cheap.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Mick Malthouse admits his love for Dale Thomas - the Age
Oh well, we can put the rubbish idea that he doesn't play favourites behind us now. Don't care about love or whatever, just as long as we get some results.

Every coach has favourites.  We would be talking BS if we didnt think that was true, and they will also get away with more in terms of a bit of leniency, the thing is, they wont need it if the coach sets a benchmark that all players need to meet.  He will come down on those not meeting it equally be they favourite or not.

Malthouse has already admitted as much publically when he was at Collingwood.  He stated, that "you have to treat some of your stars a little differently".

I would be willing to bet the family house on the fact that the players he would have as favourites are coincidentally probably the ones that are doing more of the right things more frequently.  I would be concerned if his favourties included blokes not willing to pull their weight.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Wanted: Coffee Mug
Go new for old.

You will likely struggle to get the precise same one, and at least that way you can fess up to the crime, whilst making up for it.

As an alternative, those look like the ones you might be able to get from the AFL shop or at a pinch, Kmart.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Is that Sports Doctor still in da house?
No amount of strapping will help a miniscus tear.

The only way to eleviate the swelling associated with it, is to keep weight off that leg.

If you tore it within days of your surgery, that indicates more of a failed surgery than anything else, and perhaps you should advise that this might be the case.

It may speed up your 3 month waiting period, as they might be assessing you as a "new" patient rather than one they failed to operate on properly.  I think you may have missed your waiting period for that by delaying this long, but you probably could have been seen earlier had you approached the relevant medico-legal people in January.

Hope that helps.  Sorry to hear about your pain.  I have torn my meniscus.  Its not pleasant, and took 6 weeks to begin straight line running.  I was lucky, I didnt need an operation, but I didnt fully rupture.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2014 - Strugglers
Or maybe the master of obsfucation at work again.  Would you promote someone publically that has no profile is flying under the radar yet at times last year was capable of getting 20+ touches of the footy a game with only the disposal being a cause for concern?

Lucas tidies up his ball use, and he is on his way to becoming a genuine contributer at worst and potentially a game winner.  Happy for him to continue going through the motions and come out the other side a better footballer.

Malthouse has form in this regard.  When he was at charge at Collingwood all these no name kids would get games until they were ready to emerge as genuine contributers and then they would get a bit of positive press AFTER they started churning out some good performances.  We do the opposite, build them up and then they never fail to dissapoint and are universally rejected by the media, supporter base and everyone and all that gets focussed on is how badly they go in certain situations.  Consequently the kids feel abandoned and end up another fish that John West rejects.  Confidence can be the difference between making it and not.  Set them short achievable and realistic targets and only move the goal posts once they run out of things to achieve.  Soon enough you end up with players that have developed beautifully or not at all.  Which one is up to the player.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Elite or just above average?
The tactic was to take Dawson back to the square and expose him. The angry midget obviously identified him as the weak link.

You mean a mismatch???

True the angry ant coached well. Dawson does not have the agility to keep pace with Gunston in anything other than a straight line, this was part of an issue discussed in the media for the full week prior to the game, that Freo's defensive match up on the Dawks looked pretty meager and slow compared to the Dawks forward line. Yet despite that had Freo kicked straight things might be very different.

Freo had spent the whole season initiating a group defense, and in the GF it failed because the Dawks made good decisions and not the predictable decisions.

Ill fix your part in bold with the following:

Most AFL Key position defenders do not have the agility to keep pace with Key Position Forwards in anything other than a straight line because they are always having to be reactive.  The only thing that they can do to combat this, is to try and read the ball coming into the 50, rather than keeping up with their opponent.  Only problem there is, that you cant afford for all your defenders to do that, so the result is to try and get the "wrong" defender going up to spoil the ball coming.  The only way they can win if they are reactive, is if they are 1.  Faster and can close in on the forward who has the jump on them, or 2, better at reading the flight of the ball than their opponent.

That does depend on game plan somewhat, but thats what I see happening in football.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: OPINION : Our Next Premiership - Without Judd & Co ??
Its all hindsight.

Judd brought more than just his own ability.  It has been mentioned the Juddite nature of the entire side, and it was public knowledge that our boys were unproffessional thanks the influences around them.

I would be willing to bet, that the majority of the group started lifting their game month by month since Judd arrived where before that, there was little improvement to be had in the group.

No amount of Dangerfields, Kennedy's or anything would have fixed that, as Nick Stevens ruled the roost, with Fevola just behind him.  They were the picture of everything that was culturally wrong about our football team, and the culture that Judd will have helped instill in our playing group will be one that lasts long after he is finished playing footy.

We dont know how much of this would have changed without him at the club, nor whether or not we would have been able to hang onto the blokes that have renewed their contracts since he arrived.


Disagree if the culture of the place was better then there is no need to have the best player coming to the club to fix the problem.

Thats cool Keogh.  Thats what forums are for, we agree to disagree.

IMHO We needed Judd.  We had no idea what we were doing, and we proved that when we unceremoniously decided to not back in a coach we signed on a 2 year contract one year into it.  Yes Malthouse was needed and he is further fixing up the culture of the place (read, the Judd move fixed the playing group in terms of their proffesionalism, but the club still had the old bring in the messiah complex and to a degree thats what got Malthouse here) but that seems to be more happy accident based on old Carlton logic than anything else.  We have another so-so year this year, and we might repeat our old errors and turf him out and try to lure the angry ant from Hawthorn over here.  No doubt once he is here he will be victimised in the media about his poor image and it will be yet another Carlton failing.

In a way, the best test of those who are responsible for the clubs daily operations will be if we have another so-so year.  It will really see what conviction they have to fix the place up.  They take the easy option and sack the coach again, and it will simply prove that we are the same old Carlton who failed to learn from its past mistakes.   We have a succesful year, and It might ratify the incorrect thought processes, and fail to test our board to really analyse our situation and come up with a plan to really improve the place.  Sure, i want a flag as bad as anyone but I would rather have a club that takes a holistic approach to mending the failings of the place and set it up for a sustained rise to the top that see's us become the benchmark of the competition again rather than a cheap Eddie Mcguire Collingwood knock off, that will win 2 flags in as many generations and might flail around wildly from then onwards based on the fact that they have pandered to the whims of an arrogant CEO and a former star player.

I understand that you think we didnt need Judd, but I am going to accuse you of not thinking it through.  Our recruiting was rubbish (and yet our developement is and was almost as bad).  Odds are we would have made the same decision with that #4 draft pick that West Coast did and recruited Chris Masten.  Handy player, but Kane Lucas is the same sort of player.

We needed Judd.  If our club culture was any good (proven that it wasnt) we would have had Brittain around the place still who would have sacked Fev for us, and perhaps when the AFL came down on us like a tonne of bricks, we might have come out the otherside in much better shape than we did.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Anyone Doing FEBFAST
No, but I take a general "fast" approach to my diet.

During the week (read monday morning to friday night) I eat sensibly.  Salads, grilled meats, lean meats, soup.  Etc.  The whole box and dice.  Stay away from heaviy processed foods, and refined sugars.

Come the weekend I am allowed to indulge a little.  Generally a meal out, or something a little bit more fatty and thats fine.  But its only friday night dinner, saturday night dinner, and all of sunday that fatty foods are allowed, and even then its to be within "reason" i.e. not a Turducken.

Thats when we will have a pizza, or some fish and chips or something like that for dinner.  Not overdoing things.  Helps the body flush poisons, as well as makes dieting sustainable, and when you break it down, we are eating healthy choices for something like 70-80% of the week.

Lunch today is a greek salad.  The best part?  Tomatoes and Cucumbers are homegrown, a bit of onion and olives from the shops, add some home grown oregano, fetta and some olive oil with a splash of white wine vinegar.  Largely the healthiest meal I will eat all week because I am in control of 80% of the ingredients of the dish and know that they are grown as naturally as possible with no insecticides or sprays.  With the garden yielding 5 tomatoes daily this is likely to be lunch every day.  It tastes so much better when you grow it yourself, and if its not filling enough, add chick peas or a tin of tuna/salmon.

Feb fast, I dont see the point of doing it for once a year and struggling to make it through the month.  Not to mention once you stuff it up, its game over.  At least my way is sustainable, and if you do have a moment of weakness, you can console yourself and make it okay by taking away another meal that where you are not in "fast" mode.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: OPINION : Our Next Premiership - Without Judd & Co ??
Its all hindsight.

Judd brought more than just his own ability.  It has been mentioned the Juddite nature of the entire side, and it was public knowledge that our boys were unproffessional thanks the influences around them.

I would be willing to bet, that the majority of the group started lifting their game month by month since Judd arrived where before that, there was little improvement to be had in the group.

No amount of Dangerfields, Kennedy's or anything would have fixed that, as Nick Stevens ruled the roost, with Fevola just behind him.  They were the picture of everything that was culturally wrong about our football team, and the culture that Judd will have helped instill in our playing group will be one that lasts long after he is finished playing footy.

We dont know how much of this would have changed without him at the club, nor whether or not we would have been able to hang onto the blokes that have renewed their contracts since he arrived.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2014 - Strugglers
@Mantis

Carrazzo is effectively a new inclusion as he barely played last season.  He alone is capable of being the difference between winning and losing on any given day when up and running.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2014 - Strugglers
Mantis you are not the only one in dreamland, and you can understand where the negativity stems from considering our clubs recent history (just as things look ok everything goes up creek without a paddle) and the fact that Henderson has had to go in for a procedure to release tension (which sounds like double speak to me).


Personally I think we are in for a good year, but it could just as easily go pear shaped and unravel for us so I understand the negativity despite not agreeing with it.  This is the cultural issue that our club is suffering from and needs to move past, and hopefully we are taking strides to remedy that.
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The Sports Desk / Re: 2014 Australian Open
I've said it often enough, Fed played "average Joes" until the later part of his career when Rafa, Novak and Murray hit their stride. I've never boarded the Fed Express, and I never will. Way too smug and arrogant for my liking. Technically brilliant (and better than Nadal), but he hasn't (until now) done anything beyond his comfort zone to deal with Rafa. Rafa has played the same tactics against him for years, and I think Fed just believed that his superior skill would eventually get the job done. And he has little ticker. Rapidly becoming a "lifestyle" tennis player.

He is still top 10, and still has the measure of pretty much everyone on the tour except Rafa and maybe Novak. He won't win another major, but he is still very competitive and pretty fit. I don't believe he should retire.

Rafa has been my favourite player for years, and he embodies everything I wish our Carlton players had.

+1

Im with you there, and echo your sentiments.