Friday 1st May, 19:50. MCG.
Well, we all know the record associated with this game.
Let's go lads.
Anybody watching the Anzac Day clash ?
Dour struggle. Cloke being played outside F50, and Buckley persisting with a mostly small forward line - mainly Swan and Elliott.
I've seen some of it, I reckon if Collingwood fight like this against us we are In for a hard night at the G.
We scrap alright. Only have lost the contested ball once this year to the eagles. Teams kill us on the rebound.
We scrap all right. Only have lost the contested ball once this year to the eagles. Teams kill us on the rebound.
Alas. I guess the poor condition don't hurt us as we miss the target even when things are at their best.
Anybody watching the Anzac Day clash ?
Dour struggle. Cloke being played outside F50, and Buckley persisting with a mostly small forward line - mainly Swan and Elliott.
We've traditionally been pantsed by small forwards. Hopefully a slog in the wet has them slightly off their game. Rowe will need to pull his finger out, no need to do our usual trick of playing struggling opposition players into form.
Any chance that Murph, judd and Cripps will all play next week ? Who does Collingwood use as taggers ? Their main guy Macaffer is out with a knee injury.
If today's Pies game is any indication, they will put a lot more pressure on us than the Saints did. It'll be a good test and we will have to put in for 4Q.
Any chance that Murph, judd and Cripps will all play next week ? Who does Collingwood use as taggers ? Their main guy Macaffer is out with a knee injury.
Adams will probably tag Murphy.....Robbo belted him last season and got 2 weeks from memory ..thinks he is a tough guy does Adams and needs a good hip and shoulder early to show him who is boss.
I would expect ex Brisbane player Jack Crisp to get Cripps....Crisp is 190cm and built along the lines of Cripps....think our man is better but Crisp can kick the odd goal
and Cripps will need to man him up when we dont have the footy...
Collingwood may let Judd go head to head with Pendlebury or maybe use someone like Toovey on him....the plan with all teams on Judd now appears to be to punish Judd
for his lack of defensive running and play a ball winning offensive player on him when possible, I wouldnt be allowing Pendlebury to run loose under any circumstance...
A player like Seedsman might be used on Judd or Gibbs to punish them for not running back...the Collingwood player likes to break into the open and run with the ball and can kick a goal as he showed today. Plenty for Mick to think about.....Whiley might be a good inclusion, you cant play shorter players on Pendlebury.
Adams will probably tag Murphy.....Robbo belted him last season and got 2 weeks from memory ..thinks he is a tough guy does Adams and needs a good hip and shoulder early to show him who is boss.
I would expect ex Brisbane player Jack Crisp to get Cripps....Crisp is 190cm and built along the lines of Cripps....think our man is better but Crisp can kick the odd goal
and Cripps will need to man him up when we dont have the footy...
Collingwood may let Judd go head to head with Pendlebury or maybe use someone like Toovey on him....
Interesting thoughts - thanks Elwood.
Toovey is a dirty little sniper and another who needs to be dealt with if he tries any of his typical "heroics" eg running back with the flight of the ball crashing into somebody attempting to "spoil" or arriving high and late in yet another "spoiling" attempt. Another who has gotten away with way to much over the years.
Toovey is a dirty little sniper and another who needs to be dealt with if he tries any of his typical "heroics" eg running back with the flight of the ball crashing into somebody attempting to "spoil" or arriving high and late in yet another "spoiling" attempt. Another who has gotten away with way to much over the years.
In some ways I wish we had a mongrel or 2: real mongrels get away with things that our players do not and have the skills now not to get caught. Consider Hodge: a class one thug. His 'reputation' of being a 'tough guy' allows him to get away with stuff that Robinson usually got suspended for. He goes to hurt his opponent, yet nothing is made of it. Had we a few of these guys, we could earn the rewards of having opposition champions in the medical rule instead of ours being in the medical rule.
The hit Toovey handed out in round 1 was late, high and dangerous and he should have got 4 weeks IMO, it was very ugly and totally unnecessary.
I'd be telling our big forwards that if the sod tries that sh1t next week not to pull up.
Is the bloke who punched Murphy in the guts today going to be cited?
Is Hendo the only sensible match up for Cloke ?
Cloke seems to be playing up the ground these days, out of goal kicking range, more as a HFF / wingman.
Cloke playing further up the ground is a real worry, moreso than if he is onside 50. I saw him take about 15 marks in a game relatively a few years ago against Hendo playing at CHF and he was so far BOG it wasn't funny. Cloke is far better in that role and his field kicking is good- he controlled play in the front half of the ground that day. The problem for the pies then becomes who becomes the target inside 50 if Cloke is playing higher?
None of Rowe or Jamison have to pace to go with the Pies' talls on a lead, and Jaksch lacks the mass. Gault is another one we struggled with in the pre-season.
I think part of the reason Henderson is playing forward is that he's the only one with a clue. Forward lines need to operate as a team within a team and I don't reckon Jones and Levi etc have the nous to sort things out.
Fair points Prof E.
From what I have seen this season, the Pies seem to be using Swan, Moore and Elliott as their fwd targets.
I don't agree that Jamo can't go with Cloke. Jamo is not only a good choice, but he can really hurt Cloke at ground level. Jamo if the ball hits the deck has the ability to run off and give us a chance to go forward. Either this or Everitt.
Don't get to excited about this game though. If the Filth play like they did today, they could really punish us. They made the Scum look bad today.
I would expect ex Brisbane player Jack Crisp to get Cripps
Crisp vs Cripps!
That will be a commentators worst nightmare.
:D
I reckon MM will give Cripps a run with role on Pendlebury!
I reckon MM will give Cripps a run with role on Pendlebury!
Two ways to look at that...Cripps gets an education running with Pendlebury or he will probably be run off his feet..I'd like Whiley to play on Pendlebury and let Cripps keep on doing what has been doing.
Whiley did a job on Ablett when he played for GWS and at 190cm he can match Pendlebury for size and I think he has a better tank than Cripps so he can run all day..
Two ways to look at that...Cripps gets an education running with Pendlebury or he will probably be run off his feet..I'd like Whiley to play on Pendlebury and let Cripps keep on doing what has been doing.
Whiley did a job on Ablett when he played for GWS and at 190cm he can match Pendlebury for size and I think he has a better tank than Cripps so he can run all day..
Best person IMO for Pendelbury is White if he is fit or stick Bell on him in the first half and get 2E on him in the second half. Pendlebury is a great player, but not that quick and hasn't been tagged too often. If he doesn't hold his marks when the pressure is on early in a game, he goes missing and very quiet. He doesn't have a mean streak in him to fight back and be very aggressive. He tries to let his game do the talking.
Just watching Bris. They are a dead set rabble!. If we can find a way past those filthy scumbags next week we should reasonably expect to be 3-3
Crisp vs Cripps!
That will be a commentators worst nightmare.
:D
Commetti's probably got something down already. ;)
Two ways to look at that...Cripps gets an education running with Pendlebury or he will probably be run off his feet..I'd like Whiley to play on Pendlebury and let Cripps keep on doing what has been doing.
Whiley did a job on Ablett when he played for GWS and at 190cm he can match Pendlebury for size and I think he has a better tank than Cripps so he can run all day..
Why would we not play Curnow, our best tagger on Pendlebury?
Crisp vs Cripps!
That will be a commentators worst nightmare.
:D
Cripes!
A big challenge for the boys this game. I've no idea if they are up for it or not, but I sure hope so !!
I am not one for milestones but this week will show if these blokes are playing for their coach or not.
I am not confident of a win but would love one obviously
Why would we not play Curnow, our best tagger on Pendlebury?
That would make sense ::)
The only issue I can see is that Pendlebury could be too strong in the air. Still, if Curnow does his job, Pendlebury may not get too many opportunities.
I certainly wouldn't be sacrificing the ball winning ability of Cripps by playing him in a shut down role.
That would make sense ::)
The only issue I can see is that Pendlebury could be too strong in the air. Still, if Curnow does his job, Pendlebury may not get too many opportunities.
I certainly wouldn't be sacrificing the ball winning ability of Cripps by playing him in a shut down role.
Agree. I was thinking after our game v the Saints that Curnow didn't do much, but then realised that Jack Steven was well down on his usual impact on a game!
Hopefully Judd is right to go.
Agree. I was thinking after our game v the Saints that Curnow didn't do much, but then realised that Jack Steven was well down on his usual impact on a game!
It's very easy to overlook Curnow's contribution. There are games where he amasses possessions and shuts opponents down and games where he doesn't quite do so well in terms of possessions but still keeps his opponent quiet. I think we tend to judge him by the former and mark him down for the latter.
Why would we not play Curnow, our best tagger on Pendlebury?
I'd play Curnow on Swan...
I'd play Curnow on Swan...
Agreed re the swan match-up.
Curnow is a great tagger, however we cant play afford to play Curnow, Carazzo & Ellard against quality opposition.
I'd play Curnow on Swan...
Curnow or Carrazzo, Carrazzo might miss rumours are he was hobbling after the flight back.
I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this before but Jones is quick and moves really well and has a clue about football. This though hasn't translated into any decent games for us.
I think he would do really well as a defender. Definitely tall with decent mitts. He won't last as a forward so drop down back and I think it will be the making of him.
Just saying
I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this before but Jones is quick and moves really well and has a clue about football. This though hasn't translated into any decent games for us.
I think he would do really well as a defender. Definitely tall with decent mitts. He won't last as a forward so drop down back and I think it will be the making of him.
Just saying
A few commentators over the weekend have commented on Jones. Barry Hall in particular said no player he has ever seen works as hard at training as Jones does. Yet he struggles to perform really well on game day. Isn't it funny we keep looking for forwards for years now. Yet every forward looks like they would be better suited as a defender.
Levi, Henderson, Rowe, and now Jones. Will there ever be a season we actually find players that can actually play as forwards ? I know our deliver via the mids can be as ordinary as anything in a game. which really puts the forwards under the pump. Going up against 2 or 3 defenders in a contest. What also makes me wonder is if we have 2 or 3 defenders going up against one of our tall forwards, what are the other 2 forwards doing ?
Swap Jones with Jaksch??
Swap Jones with Jaksch??
Not the worst idea going around. Jaksch has a future and a nice pair of hands. He also works more effectively than Jones. He doesn't have Jones' pace, but Jones doesn't get enough result out of his. Jaksch could well get into dangerous positions more often.
Bottom line is one of Jones or Casboult should go..... let them kick a bag of goals in the 2s.
Casboult has some influence around the ground. Jones has zip.
The problem is both Jones and Levi can't kick straight to save themselves. Both would've and should ve had at least 3 each on Saturday.
Neither are the answer, and won't be around in the long term.
The problem is both Jones and Levi can't kick straight to save themselves. Both would've and should ve had at least 3 each on Saturday.
Neither are the answer, and won't be around in the long term.
Thought Healy was spot on when he said that accuracy is the diff between Levi being a 350k player and an 800k player. The bloke is probably the best contested mark in the AFL, so we need to believe he can turn it around by foot.
Swap Jones with Jaksch??
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Watson deserves his turn. Has done what was asked of him in the 2's. Jones needs a rest.
Watson deserves his turn. Has done what was asked of him in the 2's. Jones needs a rest.
Agree, as long as we don't play him on Cloke! ;)
Watson deserves his turn. Has done what was asked of him in the 2's.
How do you know this?
friday night football ,the main stage again i hope we learnt from ess,wce,games how about some team defence ,how about we crwd coll fwd line with our players(no space) how about we really tackle with ferocity coll is a young side to with few players missing.
How do you know this?
Watson has done nothing to impress in the 2's. He doesn't deserve a recall.
Is there any danger we could say "bugger the tags" and just take the game on? Head to head, mano a mano.
Is there any danger we could say "bugger the tags" and just take the game on? Head to head, mano a mano.
I was going to suggest seeing if we could get Gibbs and Pendles to go head to head.
I was going to suggest seeing if we could get Gibbs and Pendles to go head to head.
Be crazy to let Pendlebury run around on his own IMO....far more damaging player than Gibbs when he has the footy...
Be crazy to let Pendlebury run around on his own IMO....far more damaging player than Gibbs when he has the footy...
Head to head doesn't mean they shake hands before the game and don't see eachother again until the final siren.
Gibbs can be accountable.
How do you know this?
Kicked 3 in atrocious conditions on Saturday.
Kicked 3 in atrocious conditions on Saturday.
So all the coaches want from him is to kick 3 goals?
I'm tipping he is given more instructions than that. What are they and how do we know he is doing them? That is what the question was asking.
Watson has done nothing to impress in the 2's. He doesn't deserve a recall.
And here is the main issue. No offense mate. This is totally the wrong way around. It's like trying to get into the Australian Cricket Squad and you're not from NSW...
You cannot set standards if the seniors are not going to be measured and replaced on the back of their OWN performances.
What would you rather have:
1. You keep players in the seconds and they ONLY get a chance due to injuries, horrendous ongoing performances by a non leader player, where finals are a no chance, or its their first-ever senior game.
2. You make the SENIORS accountable by setting benchmarking standards with the coach and leadership group. If they are not met, you're dropped. Dead simple. As a result he spends time in the seconds..probably hell bent to get back in, and a seconds player is brought in hell bent to play a blinder and staying in the seniors. Standard set. Rinse and repeat.
Keeping option 1 going is one of the reasons we have no depth and our kids have no real experience. We bring em in expecting miracles and when the season is over and we never learn. In the meantime big teams blood youngsters as part of a strategy.
Kicked 3 in atrocious conditions on Saturday.
So he was told by the coaching staff "kick 3 in atrocious conditions and you're in"?
So all the coaches want from him is to kick 3 goals?
I'm tipping he is given more instructions than that. What are they and how do we know he is doing them? That is what the question was asking.
WTF?
2. You make the SENIORS accountable by setting benchmarking standards with the coach and leadership group. If they are not met, you're dropped. Dead simple. As a result he spends time in the seconds..probably hell bent to get back in, and a seconds player is brought in hell bent to play a blinder and staying in the seniors. Standard set. Rinse and repeat.
There's not much point dropping players if their replacements can't play. Similarly, there's not much point promoting players who haven't done enough in the NBs. In fact, to do so would be to encourage mediocrity.
IF we had sufficient depth and IF we had blokes playing out of their skins in the NBs, your option 2 would work well.
There's not much point dropping players if their replacements can't play. Similarly, there's not much point promoting players who haven't done enough in the NBs. In fact, to do so would be to encourage mediocrity.
IF we had sufficient depth and IF we had blokes playing out of their skins in the NBs, your option 2 would work well.
But that very stance breeds an acceptance of "it'll do"..Brice Gibbs says hello. You'll never get depth if the draft picks done get games and aren't window shopped.
What time do GA tickets go on sale on Ticketmaster guys?
And here is the main issue. No offense mate. This is totally the wrong way around. It's like trying to get into the Australian Cricket Squad and you're not from NSW...
You cannot set standards if the seniors are not going to be measured and replaced on the back of their OWN performances.
What would you rather have:
1. You keep players in the seconds and they ONLY get a chance due to injuries, horrendous ongoing performances by a non leader player, where finals are a no chance, or its their first-ever senior game.
2. You make the SENIORS accountable by setting benchmarking standards with the coach and leadership group. If they are not met, you're dropped. Dead simple. As a result he spends time in the seconds..probably hell bent to get back in, and a seconds player is brought in hell bent to play a blinder and staying in the seniors. Standard set. Rinse and repeat.
Keeping option 1 going is one of the reasons we have no depth and our kids have no real experience. We bring em in expecting miracles and when the season is over and we never learn. In the meantime big teams blood youngsters as part of a strategy.
What I want him to do is demonstrate that he is too good for VFL football. He is rarely in the best players for Northern.
What I want him to do is demonstrate that he is too good for VFL football. He is rarely in the best players for Northern.
While I agree with you in part, there is a bigger picture of how often is the ball getting to him ? Is he leading to the preferred areas ? Is he playing the %'s and doing the team things ?
We need more run and flexibility. Collingwood run and run and run. They put pressure on the ball carrier then spread quickly when the opposition turn it over.
I hope we drop a tall for another runner - I'd like to see Judd, Whiley, Graham and maybe Jaksch in.
Outs - Dick, Carazzo (slow and possibly injured - could get cut up when doesn't have the ball), Ellard (doesn't run through the mid-field) and maybe Jones/Casboult.
The end result is 3 x genuine midfielders in for a forward pocket, hbf and slow mid-fielder; Also swap a mobile big for an erratic forward.
Jaksch can start forward and go back when Rowe pinch hits in the ruck.
I'd like to see the more mobile Walker forward with Hendo and either Caz or Jones.
The taller onballers like Everitt, Judd and Cripps resting forward is also a nice option.
I'm hoping that we don't play too many taggers:
Everitt is a great match up for Pendlebury which leaves Curnow for Seedsman
We need more run and flexibility. Collingwood run and run and run. They put pressure on the ball carrier then spread quickly when the opposition turn it over.
I hope we drop a tall for another runner - I'd like to see Judd, Whiley, Graham and maybe Jaksch in.
Outs - Dick, Carazzo (slow and possibly injured - could get cut up when doesn't have the ball), Ellard (doesn't run through the mid-field) and maybe Jones/Casboult.
The end result is 3 x genuine midfielders in for a forward pocket, hbf and slow mid-fielder; Also swap a mobile big for an erratic forward.
Jaksch can start forward and go back when Rowe pinch hits in the ruck.
I'd like to see the more mobile Walker forward with Hendo and either Caz or Jones.
The taller onballers like Everitt, Judd and Cripps resting forward is also a nice option.
I'm hoping that we don't play too many taggers:
Everitt is a great match up for Pendlebury which leaves Curnow for Seedsman
Agree with the extra run, also dont want to tag anymore more so Curnow and possibly Carrots gonski for mine. Just run and gun FFS.
My two cents on Watson.
Rowe is playing in an excremental fashion right now - we all know that. However, he is the only large bodied defender we have on the list right, so we really do have to persist with him. Watson has been tried as a KP defender previously and it simply didn't work.
If Watson is going to get a gig it needs to be as a high half forward leading up to the ball and giving the mids something to kick to. For Watson to play we have to drop Jones... we simply can't play both.
I'm not sure you can let Swann have a day out and expect to win.
I'm not sure you can let Swann have a day out and expect to win.
I'm not big on tagging and only like one or two negative players on my team but Pendlebury and Swan are the two
I would tag...
I'm not big on tagging and only like one or two negative players on my team but Pendlebury and Swan are the two
I would tag...
Agreed, tagging is a double edged sword, for example some "scribes" are saying that Freo's attacking upside is primarily due to Crowley's absence!
apparently Collingwood turn it over more than us.
If we are willing to push back and defend hard and play with some freedom up the guts, we are a big show.
Sadly we will get cut up on rebound after multiple repeat inside 50's.
Agreed, tagging is a double edged sword, for example some "scribes" are saying that Freo's attacking upside is primarily due to Crowley's absence!
Problem with Crowley is he doesnt get the ball or do much with it when he does get it.....the best taggers are the ones who tag and get the footy.
Cam Ling was great for this reason....Jordan Lewis can mind a man and still get 30 good touches.....I reckon Freo are better off without Crowley
and more dangerous...
apparently Collingwood turn it over more than us.
If we are willing to push back and defend hard and play with some freedom up the guts, we are a big show.
Sadly we will get cut up on rebound after multiple repeat inside 50's.
We are still 12th for DE I believe and 12th for uncontested possessions.
If we fix our DE a bit we will also fix our uncontested possessions.
Could be an ugly game. :D
Agreed, tagging is a double edged sword, for example some "scribes" are saying that Freo's attacking upside is primarily due to Crowley's absence!
I think Lyon himself alluded to this.
My tip would be:
IN: Judd, Menzel, Jaksch, Watson
OUT: Armfield, Ellard, Dick, Casboult
I agree with a few others, I think Watson deserves a run in the Seniors. I think Jones is offering slightly more than Casboult right now, but only just. Last senior game Watson kicked 4 against the Bombers. This is his last year of his contract, let's see what he's got as a forward in the 1's before it's too late. Give him 4-5 games minimum in a row to show his worth. He can't possibly stink it up as much as Casboult has been.
My tip would be:
IN: Judd, Menzel, Jaksch, Watson
OUT: Armfield, Ellard, Dick, Casboult
I agree with a few others, I think Watson deserves a run in the Seniors. I think Jones is offering slightly more than Casboult right now, but only just. Last senior game Watson kicked 4 against the Bombers. This is his last year of his contract, let's see what he's got as a forward in the 1's before it's too late. Give him 4-5 games minimum in a row to show his worth. He can't possibly stink it up as much as Casboult has been.
This! Just amazing he hasn't been given a decent run at it when he's clearly shown he's up to senior footy.
My tip would be:
IN: Judd, Menzel, Jaksch, Watson
OUT: Armfield, Ellard, Dick, Casboult
I agree with a few others, I think Watson deserves a run in the Seniors. I think Jones is offering slightly more than Casboult right now, but only just. Last senior game Watson kicked 4 against the Bombers. This is his last year of his contract, let's see what he's got as a forward in the 1's before it's too late. Give him 4-5 games minimum in a row to show his worth. He can't possibly stink it up as much as Casboult has been.
Hard to see Armfield getting dropped, he has played pretty well.
Buckley may struggle to retain a spot though!
For Watson to play we have to drop Jones... we simply can't play both.
That works for me, Jones is a waste of space.
If all the stars align we could pinch a win but it's highly unlikely.
Cant believe people want Caz dropped.
His kicking is worse than ever but his presence creats so many scoring opportunities for every1 else around him. Dropping Caz would be a massive mistake IMO.
Menzel in ????? Whats he done for us lately? Why is he an automatic in for us???
For mine Judd and Jacksh (if fit) come in for Ellard and................I dunno but not Caz >:( ;)
I'd stick with Jones & Casboult.
Happy to persist with Jones, and we need Casboult for ruck relief.
As a forward, Watson is on "L" plates. Nothing wrong with letting him build up several weeks of form in the 2nds.
Casboult must stay as he provides the relief ruck option, and an ok one at that. Without him, we would need to turn to Rowe to provide a second ruck option, which is very disruptive to the backline. As we have seen already this season, moving a key defender forward or into the ruck is disruptive and causes as many problems as it solves.
Watson will just have keep working hard in the seconds and he will get his chance.
Big test this week and will show where some of our players are really at against better opposition. Jones has improved each game so far, and many of the issues forward are the result of them getting in each other's way more than a lack of effort. He is a limited player certainly, but he is still quite young and has not played heaps of footy.
My tip would be:
IN: Judd, Menzel, Jaksch, Watson
OUT: Armfield, Ellard, Dick, Casboult
I agree with a few others, I think Watson deserves a run in the Seniors. I think Jones is offering slightly more than Casboult right now, but only just. Last senior game Watson kicked 4 against the Bombers. This is his last year of his contract, let's see what he's got as a forward in the 1's before it's too late. Give him 4-5 games minimum in a row to show his worth. He can't possibly stink it up as much as Casboult has been.
Hmmm!
Ellard and Armfield, the latter in particular, were among our better players last week and Watson couldn't match Casboult's work in the ruck and around the ground. Dick didn't get much of a run but he'll get more opportunities as the season progresses.
I'm not convinced that Jones will make it as a key forward and I had Watson ahead of him before the season. However, Jones has shown glimpses and Watson has dominated in the NBs (which is what I would expect from a bloke desperate to play AFL); Jones gets another week and Watson has to work harder.
My ins would be Judd, Jaksch and possibly Menzel but deciding on the outs is a little difficult, and that's a good thing. Depending on match ups, perhaps Dick, Jamison and Carrazzo?
Apparently Kreuz set for a run in the NBs this week.
My tip would be:
IN: Judd, Menzel, Jaksch, Watson
OUT: Armfield, Ellard, Dick, Casboult
I agree with a few others, I think Watson deserves a run in the Seniors. I think Jones is offering slightly more than Casboult right now, but only just. Last senior game Watson kicked 4 against the Bombers. This is his last year of his contract, let's see what he's got as a forward in the 1's before it's too late. Give him 4-5 games minimum in a row to show his worth. He can't possibly stink it up as much as Casboult has been.
I think you have to be careful with your outs.
You are dropping 2 blokes who are team first go-getters in Army and Ellard. Dick takes a leaf out of their book, but isn't up to it yet.
Then you drop Casboult who is one of the few big blokes who can throw their weight around which is required against a side like the pies.
Who plays 2nd ruck? Rowe from CHB? With maybe Jaksch or an injured Jammo playing on Cloke? We can drop Casboult when we get Kreuzer back.
I agree with bringing in Judd and Menzel if he's fit.
I'd like to bring in Jaksch too....maybe for Jammo if he's not right?
Watson...no spot for him with Jaksch back.
Personally i'd drop Curnow for Judd
Ellard for Menzel (if fit)
Dick for Jaksch
Apparently Kreuz set for a run in the NBs this week.
I am going to just pray to God almighty that he makes it through uninjured and he can get back on the park for us. This poor bastards luck just has to turn.
You are dropping 2 blokes who are team first go-getters in Army and Ellard. Dick takes a leaf out of their book, but isn't up to it yet.
Then you drop Casboult who is one of the few big blokes who can throw their weight around which is required against a side like the pies.
Who plays 2nd ruck? Rowe from CHB? With maybe Jaksch or an injured Jammo playing on Cloke? We can drop Casboult when we get Kreuzer back.
I agree with bringing in Judd and Menzel if he's fit.
I'd like to bring in Jaksch too....maybe for Jammo if he's not right?
Watson...no spot for him with Jaksch back.
Personally i'd drop Curnow for Judd
Ellard for Menzel (if fit)
Dick for Jaksch
I think Menzel should plays NBs - make him realise he's not a walk up start and his form this year has been poor - he reeks of picking up Gibbs' attitude (and pony tail).
Think we need Curnow. He shut Stevens right down.
Jamo - sure doing nothing down back so let hm have some rest
Dick an obvious out - so him, Jamo and if a third out is needed i guess Ellard goes before Armfield whose speed appears to be back.
I think Menzel should plays NBs - make him realise he's not a walk up start and his form this year has been poor - he reeks of picking up Gibbs' attitude (and pony tail).
I agree about this, especially with younger players regardless of talent.
Scotland's(In the Past), Judd's and Simmo's get to stroll back in to the 1s, but kids must earn their place so they value it!
We have very few "certainties" on our list!
I am going to just pray to God almighty that he makes it through uninjured and he can get back on the park for us. This poor bastards luck just has to turn.
I still believe a fit/firing Kreuzer is the key difference between CFC being a bottom 6 team and a top 6 team.
I still believe a fit/firing Kreuzer is the key difference between CFC being a bottom 6 team and a top 6 team.
Agreed, he and Cripps side by side on the ball and the whole team will stand taller! (No Pun Intended)
I still believe a fit/firing Kreuzer is the key difference between CFC being a bottom 6 team and a top 6 team.
Agree 200%
I still believe a fit/firing Kreuzer is the key difference between CFC being a bottom 6 team and a top 6 team.
x10!!!
I couldn't agree more. This guy can seriously play when his body allows him to. He has massive heart and leaves nothing on the park.
We don't have that much to be excited about these days yet this guy makes gives me hope being a blue.
I know he hasn't lived up to his potential but its not without him giving his all. Just needs some luck and we will see how good he is.
Not much loyalty left in the AFL but this is one player that deserves something back. I don't forget it being reported before his last contract was up that he won't play for another club and will only sign a contract from us.
I don't forget that and hope the club doesn't either.
His a keeper IMO even if injuries still hold him back some further time.
I don't think there is a game I have wanted to win more for a raft of reasons.
I think Menzel should plays NBs - make him realise he's not a walk up start and his form this year has been poor - he reeks of picking up Gibbs' attitude (and pony tail).
Think we need Curnow. He shut Stevens right down.
Jamo - sure doing nothing down back so let hm have some rest
Dick an obvious out - so him, Jamo and if a third out is needed i guess Ellard goes before Armfield whose speed appears to be back.
Menzel was one of our better players in Rd 1, 17 disposals and 2.1 on the score board. Didn't do anything against West Coast, but who did? Then he's been out injured the last 2. He's still got more class than Ellard and Armfield combined.
A lot of people here criticising the suggestion to drop Armfield. Sure he played ok against the Saints, but the problem with our team at the moment is that we have too many good honest C-B graders and not enough class. I'd play Menzel ahead of Army because Menzel is the future. He is still young, he will have some shocking games and some brilliant ones. But the more game time he gets, the more likely we'll get the brilliant games. We're never going to evolve if she keep playing the same players with gross limitations. Ellard is not up to it, Armfield is not up to it in the long term. Time to move forward.
As for the 'Casboult is our only ruck relief' argument that people are throwing about; bringing Jaksch back in means we can afford for Rowe to relieve in the ruck. It wouldn't be for large chunks of the game anyway. But to be honest, I wouldn't be fazed to see Jones dropped instead, but stand by the opinion that Watto deserves his chance.
Menzel was one of our better players in Rd 1, 17 disposals and 2.1 on the score board. Didn't do anything against West Coast, but who did? Then he's been out injured the last 2. He's still got more class than Ellard and Armfield combined.
A lot of people here criticising the suggestion to drop Armfield. Sure he played ok against the Saints, but the problem with our team at the moment is that we have too many good honest C-B graders and not enough class. I'd play Menzel ahead of Army because Menzel is the future. He is still young, he will have some shocking games and some brilliant ones. But the more game time he gets, the more likely we'll get the brilliant games. We're never going to evolve if she keep playing the same players with gross limitations. Ellard is not up to it, Armfield is not up to it in the long term. Time to move forward.
As for the 'Casboult is our only ruck relief' argument that people are throwing about; bringing Jaksch back in means we can afford for Rowe to relieve in the ruck. It wouldn't be for large chunks of the game anyway. But to be honest, I wouldn't be fazed to see Jones dropped instead, but stand by the opinion that Watto deserves his chance.
Sorry Maven, Rowe should never ruck again. Awful.
Sorry Maven, Rowe should never ruck again. Awful.
Yeah he's not ideal, but keeping in Casboult just to play in the ruck for 10-20% of the game isn't ideal either. As a few have mentioned, it'll be great when Kreuzer is back, but until then we just have to pick the least damaging option.
did? Then he's been out injured the last
A lot of people here criticising the suggestion to drop Armfield. Sure he played ok against the Saints, but the problem with our team at the moment is that we have too many good honest C-B graders and not enough class. I'd play Menzel ahead of Army because Menzel is the future. He is still young, he will have some shocking games and some brilliant ones. But the more game time he gets, the more likely we'll get the brilliant games. We're never going to evolve if she keep playing the same players with gross limitations. Ellard is not up to it, Armfield is not up to it in the long term. Time to move forward.
This! We have about 100 games to ALL our under 23 year old players - many of those just a quarter as a sub. If only we were actually rebuilding the past few years and we had a bunch of kids with 50-80 games to their name.
This game does give the players an opportunity to make a statement about the coach. A committed performance will make a strong statement about player sentiment and will go a long way towards a new contract. A limp performance would be a disaster for the coach.
Collingwood players will probably do a guard of honour, maybe the Blues will join in.
Is there any chance at all that Rowe will be dropped/
He was disgraceful last week, continuing his total lack of effort that permeates the way he approaches each game. He panics when under pressure, he cannot think his way out of a situation, he stands flat footed watching while others do the work, and he is a champion at giving the opposition forwards free kicks because he lacks the ability to combat his opponents skills fairly.
Rowe is the single greatest liability in this team, and should never have been made part of the leadership group.
Is there any chance at all that Rowe will be dropped/
He was disgraceful last week, continuing his total lack of effort that permeates the way he approaches each game. He panics when under pressure, he cannot think his way out of a situation, he stands flat footed watching while others do the work, and he is a champion at giving the opposition forwards free kicks because he lacks the ability to combat his opponents skills fairly.
Rowe is the single greatest liability in this team, and should never have been made part of the leadership group.
While I agree with the bit about him being dropped I think you've gone in a bit hard on the guy. By all accounts he's a natural leader and 100% committed to the cause but his current form is just so SHIZEN it's difficult to see how he's survived the chop for this long. Lack of options I guess is the main reason. Watson is not the answer, he is a dead set spud I don't care what anyone says. Play the new kid Jaksch and just roll the dice.
Swan in doubt with a sprained ankle according to FB Supercoach.
must keep army for his pace and for menzel tell him not about goals (pressure acts for example) must stop coll attacking from defence
Menzel was one of our better players in Rd 1, 17 disposals and 2.1 on the score board. Didn't do anything against West Coast, but who did? Then he's been out injured the last 2. He's still got more class than Ellard and Armfield combined.
A lot of people here criticising the suggestion to drop Armfield. Sure he played ok against the Saints, but the problem with our team at the moment is that we have too many good honest C-B graders and not enough class. I'd play Menzel ahead of Army because Menzel is the future. He is still young, he will have some shocking games and some brilliant ones. But the more game time he gets, the more likely we'll get the brilliant games. We're never going to evolve if she keep playing the same players with gross limitations. Ellard is not up to it, Armfield is not up to it in the long term. Time to move forward.
As for the 'Casboult is our only ruck relief' argument that people are throwing about; bringing Jaksch back in means we can afford for Rowe to relieve in the ruck. It wouldn't be for large chunks of the game anyway. But to be honest, I wouldn't be fazed to see Jones dropped instead, but stand by the opinion that Watto deserves his chance.
Armfield isn't the answer to all of our woes, but dropping him this week is saying that we don't respect effort, and effort is what is holding us back. He was great last work and worked his bum off. Plus his pace is/was a bonus on several occasions.
Army is another one who is OK until a better option comes along - as a week to week proposition, he'll be in and out of the team for his remaining time with us. I think he'll stay in this week, deservedly so.
In the form he is in, Id be leaving him in the team until such point that he significantly misfires.
28, might net us a decent trade or even might end up on the market via free agency. Either will get us decent compensation.
HAVE to shop him around, particularly whilst he challenges the younger more able bodies to beat him to a game.
In the form he is in, Id be leaving him in the team until such point that he significantly misfires.
28, might net us a decent trade or even might end up on the market via free agency. Either will get us decent compensation.
HAVE to shop him around, particularly whilst he challenges the younger more able bodies to beat him to a game.
Our list is looking too slow, most of our recent drafts are pretty slow, we can't keep getting rid of pace and bringing in slow!
While I agree with the bit about him being dropped I think you've gone in a bit hard on the guy. By all accounts he's a natural leader and 100% committed to the cause but his current form is just so SHIZEN it's difficult to see how he's survived the chop for this long. Lack of options I guess is the main reason. Watson is not the answer, he is a dead set spud I don't care what anyone says. Play the new kid Jaksch and just roll the dice.
Agree about Watson, except for one thing. Spuds are useful. You get beautiful chips from them. At least when my missus makes them!!
As far as Rowe being a natural leader, maybe in the locker room, he is.
Out on the track, sorry to say it, but he's a waste of space.
Swan in doubt with a sprained ankle according to FB Supercoach.
Walking around in a moon boot.
Walking around in a moon boot.
Showed him on the news doing run throughs at training. Had a slight limp but with him the way he walks like a duck, you cant tell.
Showed him on the news doing run throughs at training. Had a slight limp but with him the way he walks like a duck, you cant tell.
Swan trained for 10 minutes so his ankle must not be good. I suppose we'll have a jab and come out and play a blinder.
Swan trained for 10 minutes so his ankle must not be good. I suppose we'll have a jab and come out and play a blinder.
lol
Swan trained for 10 minutes so his ankle must not be good. I suppose we'll have a jab and come out and play a blinder.
They interviewed him on Triple M on sunday. At the time he was actually in a tattoo parlour getting the back of his knee tattood!
They asked him about the amount of time he spent forward on ANZAC day and he said it wasn't planned, but he rolled his ankle a little bit early on and it was better if he played more forward.
He also said that it should be fine and there was more pain in his knee after getting the tatt done.
Perhaps a bit of both is to why he wasn't training so much.
Let's see if we can keep him under control, for a change. :)
In: Jaksch Judd and Wiley for his first game.
Out: Carrazzo (leg) and Casboult, Dick both ommitted.
Curnow keeps his spot...again...despite form and rumours suggesting otherwise.
Casboult, Dick and Warnock our emergencies
Jacksh, Whiley, Boekhorst, Cripps, Buckley all in the same team.
Great glimpse into the future.
Jacksh, Whiley, Boekhorst, Cripps, Buckley all in the same team.
Great glimpse into the future.
Disappointing that we can't add menzel into that.
An interesting call to drop Casboult, particularly when he has performed better than Jones. I guess it means that Rowe will alternate between CHB and ruck again ::)
True re. Menz, but no point playing guys who aren't right.
Would be great to see Menz and Byrne to the side in coming weeks.
Levi needs to get back to the Nthrn Blues and get some confidence in his kicking for goal, as its just plain embarrassing right now.
People were jumping up and down saying MM doesn't play the kids...
Well so far this year we ve seen Smith, Byrne, Dick, Jacksh, Boekhorst and Whiley all play their first games for us, Bucks fighting his way into the team and now being given a shot, and Cripps (rnd 4), Bell (rnd 4) and Doc (rnd 1) play their best games as Blues players.
And people say the rebuilding hasn't started yet lol
Will Jacksh play forward at all? And swing back when Rowe takes the ruck? Or he'll be back and Hendo forward all night?
Three good ins and I am pleased to see Whiley playing as I think he will add something to the team...
Dont know about dropping Casboult...makes us a bit unbalanced IMO and I am not a fan of using Rowe in the ruck....
Bit concerned as well about Jaksch having to maybe pick up Jessie White who is much bigger and stronger and hopefully Rowe spends more time down back than on the ball..
Jones has to fire up this week as we cant expect Henderson to kick five every game and we have zero crumbers/genuine small forwards given Menzel is out....
Blues by 5 points on the back of Micks milestone game....
Jamo looked proppy last week will he be a late omission for the Boult?
Jamo looked proppy last week will he be a late omission for the Boult?
Thats what my money is on.
Jacksh, Whiley, Boekhorst, Cripps, Buckley all in the same team.
Great glimpse into the future.
Looking forward to seeing these blokes for sure and the first time we get to see the three players we got for our pick #7 in action together. This is looking like an extremely shrewd trade by us ATM. If Whiley is a player as well then look out. Very disappointed however to see no Graham again and no Watto. If you're on the outer at Carlton you're on the outer.
Like the ins this week! Particularly looking forward to seein Whiley. We look like a half decent chance on paper if we fire up this week. Will be watching with great interest.
Hope Levi can find his goal kicking boots in the NBs this week (if he doesn't come in as a late change).
Jamo looked proppy last week will he be a late omission for the Boult?
Casboult playing on Cloke - I wonder whether they'd swap notes on goal kicking ;)
Carlton:
B: Dylan Buckley, Michael Jamison, Kristian Jaksch.
HB: Zach Tuohy, Sam Rowe, Sam Docherty.
C: Ed Curnow, Chris Judd, Andrew Walker
HF: Andrejs Everitt, Lachie Henderson, Bryce Gibbs.
F: Dennis Armfield, Liam Jones, Blaine Boekhorst.
Foll: Cameron Wood, Marc Murphy, Patrick Cripps.
I/C: Tom Bell, David Ellard, Kade Simpson, Mark Whiley.
Emg: Levi Casboult, Matthew Dick, Robert Warnock
Meat Pies:
B: Alan Toovey, Nathan J. Brown, Marley Williams
HB: Tom Langdon, Jack Frost, Tyson Goldsack.
C: Paul Seedsman, Dane Swan, Jack Crisp.
HF: Jamie Elliott, Jesse White, Travis Varcoe.
F: Corey Gault, Travis Cloke, Jarryd Blair.
Foll: Brodie Grundy, Taylor Adams, Scott Pendlebury.
I/C: Sam Dwyer, Jackson Ramsay, Patrick Karnezis, Adam Oxley.
Emg: Jarrod Witts, Jonathon Marsh, Jordan De Goey
I don't like having a single ruckman, although Collingwood have been doing the same. It is a point source error and could be lethal if the opposing ruckman gets on top. I actually do rate Grundy: he is probably the best of the young rucks going around at the moment.
However, our other choice is Warnock.
Collingwood also have a lot of no names, which is usually bad for us. Collingwood's no names usually get their reputations from games against us.
We will also miss Carrots: he usually does a pretty good job on Swan. Not sure who is going to get that job now. We will also miss White: he was doing a good job in the run with roles.
Dick for Jammo if he doesn't come up makes sense.
Great to see Whiley in for Carrots.
Jacksh for Casboult is good.
Like it. Well done selection comm.
I hope Jaksch is 100%. We need him to be our Jack Frost. I am really keen to see if Whiley can play. Did we score a double winner in the trade with Jaksch and Whiley.
I hope Jaksch is 100%. We need him to be our Jack Frost. I am really keen to see if Whiley can play. Did we score a double winner in the trade with Jaksch and Whiley.
I reckon Whiley will get Pendelbury......big test in your first game for a new club but the same lad did the job on Ablett when playing for GWS so I reckon
he is us up for the challenge.
Jaksch needs the right opponent while he is developing like Goldsack or Karnezis....not a power forward like Cloke or White...
@ Crash
Saw the Pies game last week and I didn't think Grundy looked that good in that one tbh.
I have an unfortunate feeling Whiley will be sub.
How can they drop Levi yet retain Jones? Who is going to relieve Wood... Rowe? We all know that doesn't work and we don't have the big bodied defenders to spare against Cloke, White and Gault as it is.
How can they drop Levi yet retain Jones? Who is going to relieve Wood... Rowe? We all know that doesn't work and we don't have the big bodied defenders to spare against Cloke, White and Gault as it is.
The club backed itself into a corner with their talking up of Jones. If he's dropped it won't be for a while yet.
Well that's deadest idiocy. If his form warrants dropping him, drop him. Shouldn't have pumped up his tyres over the summer, most of us can see through the hype.
The club backed itself into a corner with their talking up of Jones. If he's dropped it won't be for a while yet.
Tend to agree, they did talk Jones up but admitting failure by dropping him wont come easily......to be fair though the game plan hasnt exactly
delivered silver service to our tall forwards and he is a player who needs reasonable delivery and not having the ball bombed on his head with a pack of players around him...
Tend to agree, they did talk Jones up but admitting failure by dropping him wont come easily......to be fair though the game plan hasnt exactly
delivered silver service to our tall forwards and he is a player who needs reasonable delivery and not having the ball bombed on his head with a pack of players around him...
I agree with this 100%. The talls need to lead to free space and the plan needs to be one where they don't crunch packs together. Sure leave Levi in the goal square, but have Hendo and Jones lead to free space. The small forwards need to be further up close the 50m arc to crumb the spills. There is no real point having all the 6 forwards well within the F50m arc. Especially if the defenders drop an extra man in to defend. The forward space becomes way too crowded. I don't like to see what I call a congested forward 50m. It makes it difficult to convert on the score board. Free up space as Jones can take a grab on a lead. So can Henderson. Mick needs to sort this out and fast. If the other side stacks the D50m to guard the goal, we surely have free players that can drift towards the middle of the ground and wings to set up a goal by chipping it to a player on a lead. It also helps us zone a defencive wall to stop the ball from being brought out quickly on a rebound, with a turn over. Why are we not clever enough to mix up our forward movement ? If you can't change your structures, you can surely be clever with where the players move around to confuse the defenders. Yet again, I am the idiot, right ?
Purely on the numbers, ignoring ruck stuff, Jones has been as effective as Casboult as a forward if not slightly better.
So what does that tell me, probably because of his clunking marks Casboult is often viewed through rose coloured glasses!
Jone's movement around the park is looking pretty good, get him clunking a few more grabs and he could quickly surpass Casboult.
Levi needs to get up and about, and a lot more aggressive.
Macca was saying that putting Levi back to the NBs is purely designed to help him rebuild his confidence. I think that's a good move as long as he can dominate and start snagging some goals. As soon as that happens he'll be back in the seniors.
I guess Rowe will need to be used as second ruck which I'm not so keen on but we'll have to see how the talls are used, esp with the return of Jaksch.
Well that's deadest idiocy. If his form warrants dropping him, drop him. Shouldn't have pumped up his tyres over the summer, most of us can see through the hype.
Are you sure of that ?
Have a read of our various stalkbook pages and see if you'd like to rephrase the above :/
Where's Watto :(
Where's Watto :(
Probably giving Jones a block of games to show his thing which I don't mind, I don't get why they pick and choose who gets 6 games and who gets a quarter as sub and gets banished again
I am worried about the hype behind tonight's game. We have a very poor record in milestone games of late. I HOPE we can win, but I ALWAYS want to pound the Meat Pies.
I got a feeling....
I got a feeling....
I had a feeling in R1 turned out to be indigestion :))
I had a feeling in R1 turned out to be indigestion :))
;D
Honestly, I think we look better than them on paper and given there's a bit of a question mark around Swan's fitness it all sounds like there's an upset brewing. BUT given the last 15 years or so of disappointments I'm tipping they'll spank us and another milestone game will be remembered for all the WRONG reasons.
:(
No Casboult...No Carlton :(
We need a big bodied person to be second ruck and be a presence around the ground.
Would love to be proved wrong, but the last time we went in without him we just didn't look right.
No Casboult...No Carlton :(
We need a big bodied person to be second ruck and be a presence around the ground.
Would love to be proved wrong, but the last time we went in without him we just didn't look right.
Last time without him, we started like a house on fire, jumped them them, then all 22 went home to bed at qtr time.
Last time without him, we started like a house on fire, jumped them them, then all 22 went home to bed at qtr time.
I think he will play.
As pointed out by emtwenty on TC, tonight we get to see Pick 7 play.
All three of them. Boek, KJ and Whiley.
Where's Watto :(
Hey, that would be a good book name ;)
No Casboult...No Carlton :(
We need a big bodied person to be second ruck and be a presence around the ground.
Would love to be proved wrong, but the last time we went in without him we just didn't look right.
Surely ample talls on the park - Hendo, Wood, Jaksch, Rowe, Jones, Jamo.....
i think playing 3 talls in the forward line is a liability (luxury?) we can't afford with (until last week) none of them playing remotely decent footy. Not to mention shocking kicking at goal.
Hey, that would be a good book name ;)
(http://images.wikia.com/watto/images/4/45/Watto.jpg)
Watto's not looking happy! ;D
If we want a body on body marking target it's Hendo, if we want another body on body marking target I'd be trying Jammo.
I'd leave Rowe and Jaksch down back for now.
We will out run Collingwood tonight. Cake tin was a crap ground last week that didn't allow any space.
Buckley, Walker, Armfield, Boekhurst, Murphy, Whiley, Simpson, Everitt, Curnow all have toe and can break the lines and spread quickly.
Let us loose at the G in dewy conditions!!!
The ins outweigh the outs so it's a better side than last week, Judd alone is worth a few goals even if he doesn't kick any himself.
Casboult had to be dropped, he deflates the whole side when he kicks out of bounds from 30 metres, Jones at least doesn't miss by as far.
We'll probably lose but I'm expecting a four quarter effort, if the breaks and umpiring go our way and we don't miss sitters we could sneak a win.
Go Baggers!!!!!
(http://images.wikia.com/watto/images/4/45/Watto.jpg)
Watto's not looking happy! ;D
Like ;D
We will out run Collingwood tonight. Cake tin was a crap ground last week that didn't allow any space.
Buckley, Walker, Armfield, Boekhurst, Murphy, Whiley, Simpson, Everitt, Curnow all have toe and can break the lines and spread quickly.
Let us loose at the G in dewy conditions!!!
Yep, plenty of zip and endurance (add Bell) in that list. Ditto the Juddster - always raises the bar in the 4th.
Surely ample talls on the park - Hendo, Wood, Jaksch, Rowe, Jones, Jamo.....
i think playing 3 talls in the forward line is a liability (luxury?) we can't afford with (until last week) none of them playing remotely decent footy. Not to mention shocking kicking at goal.
I'd be playing Walker (190cm) permanent forward with Everitt there too (194cm).
Add Cripps (193cm) to 'rest' there. Judd (189cm) can do the same.
I reckon we are more mobile and dangerous this way for the time being anyway.
They are all capable in the air, at ground level and have good size for sure.
The main perpetrators to our downfall against these blokes last year in Ben Reid, Dayne Beams, and Steele Sidebottom won't be there this time, which gives me some hope.
I know... im clutching at straws here lol.
The main perpetrators to our downfall against these blokes last year in Ben Reid, Dayne Beams, and Steele Sidebottom won't be there this time, which gives me some hope.
I know... im clutching at straws here lol.
Got to keep an eye on Elliot too; he seems to like playing against us.
The main perpetrators to our downfall against these blokes last year in Ben Reid, Dayne Beams, and Steele Sidebottom won't be there this time, which gives me some hope.
I know... im clutching at straws here lol.
We'll be missing Thomas, Yarran, Kreuzer, Carrazzo and Menzel who are all in our best 22, so I think we're worse off than the Maggotts on the injury/suspension front.
If any two of them was playing I'd be confident we could beat them.
Got to keep an eye on Elliot too; he seems to like playing against us.
Varcoe was very good against Essendon as well, Zach will probably get that job.
Collingwood are rated the best this year for keeping the ball in their forward 50, however their defense is poor so I'd hope to see several torps early to get over the Collingwood press and push back their players making it easier to get the first kick in after a behind.
Collingwood are rated the best this year for keeping the ball in their forward 50, however their defense is poor so I'd hope to see several torps early to get over the Collingwood press and push back their players making it easier to get the first kick in after a behind.
Blair, Elliot are the ones who normally feast out against us. Varcoe will also be one to watch, can tear a game open early.
Collingwood are rated the best this year for keeping the ball in their forward 50, however their defense is poor so I'd hope to see several torps early to get over the Collingwood press and push back their players making it easier to get the first kick in after a behind.
Don't get me started on the torp, I think it's worked for us all of once in Mick's time.
Sav Rocca and Levi standing out in the middle of the G together for about 15 mins. 'visualizing'????
Jamo out.. replaced by ....Robbie Warnock ???
Beoky the sub.
Good sub i think.
Surely if Jamo is out then Hendo plays back which should really open the door for Cas?
If theres on person who's set shot from 30 is worse than Cas its Warnock.
Jamo out.. replaced by ....Robbie Warnock ???
Good full-back :D
Surely if Jamo is out then Hendo plays back which should really open the door for Cas?
If theres on person who's set shot from 30 is worse than Cas its Warnock.
Wood + Warnock = :(
2 key forward, Cloke and White need to be covered by Jaksch and Rowe for starters and see what happens. Leave Hendo forward for as long as possible.
Wood + Warnock = :(
Reckon we might get away with it against Collingwood or it will be a big mc blunder. We'll see
I reckon the only hope we have of having Warnock+Wood in the side, is if Wood plays predominately as your FF.
Our blokes are good enough to get the clearances. So ruckwork isn't an issue.
Hopefully Wood can take a grab at forward and kick straight. Then we can drop Warnock when Kreuzer gets back.
Thinking about the Warnock thing, we have MK coming into the mix soon. Perhaps we plan on using it in preparation for 2 bigger guys otherwise another decision which is hard to fit into the bigger picture of where we are going....
I have been thinking that we will get rolled by around 6-goals tonight, now that Jamison is out and Warnock is in, it's going to be more like an 8-10 goal thumping.
I reckon the only hope we have of having Warnock+Wood in the side, is if Wood plays predominately as your FF.
Certainty Wood plays forward.