Dylan Buckley was drafted in 2011 but debuted in RD 3 of 2013 yet to date, he has only managed 31 senior appearances.
Of greater concern is what strategic position is he best suited to ??
He's been trialled up forward as a goal-sneak but looked like a fish out of water, he has also been thrown into the midfield but it wasn't his strongest role. It's only been as a small defender where there has been any consistency of performance.
Out of contract at the end of this year, he is firmly under the microscope with no guarantees to be retained either.
I can't find a role for him at all in our team so I'm expecting him to be given a 1-year extension with some serious KPI's to go with it. Failure to cement a core position in the team will see him not achieve the KPI's and in turn, will be delisted at the end of 2017.
Delist
Depends whether or not he can make a senior impact this year. If he can't he may well be gone.
I think he's best suited as a mid-forward, unfortunately I don't know if he's good enough to hold that position at AFL level and I don't think we'll give him the chance.
He should come to WA or SA and play on big dry grounds in the WAFL or SANFL if he gets delisted. I think he's smash it in these comps and they will play him in those positions.
He has pace, has a booming kick, is hard at it and always puts in so heis exactly what we need but he consistently makes terrible decisions and has shown no signs of improving in that area.
He has pace, has a booming kick, is hard at it and always puts in so heis exactly what we need but he consistently makes terrible decisions and has shown no signs of improving in that area.
Buckley's biggest shortcoming is that he simply doesn't get enough of the ball.
Buckley's biggest shortcoming is that he simply doesn't get enough of the ball.
Agree on getting the ball but...think his biggest problem is nous......makes the wrong choice/takes the wrong option too often....
Seemed to play his best when playing in defence on small forwards. Think he was doing that in 2014 when he had his best season. Provided alot of run out of there.
Thought he could go ok as a small forward but not so. Try him back in defence again and maybe release Touhy into the midfield.
Seemed to play his best when playing in defence on small forwards. Think he was doing that in 2014 when he had his best season. Provided alot of run out of there.
Thought he could go ok as a small forward but not so. Try him back in defence again and maybe release Touhy into the midfield.
This is an ok idea, but it seems to be about ensuring Dylan can get a game, rather than whats best for the team.
Tuohy is just as capable defensively, as is Byrne, and Sheehan who once again showed that he is a good kick of the footy even playing under duress on saturday. They all provide the same amount of dash off half back as Dylan, and they can all get up the field and be a threat like Dylan.
Dylan needs to give us better link up play running up the field or get into the centre and become more of a threat before even getting into the above conversation unfortunatley.
This is an ok idea, but it seems to be about ensuring Dylan can get a game, rather than whats best for the team.
Tuohy is just as capable defensively, as is Byrne, and Sheehan who once again showed that he is a good kick of the footy even playing under duress on saturday. They all provide the same amount of dash off half back as Dylan, and they can all get up the field and be a threat like Dylan.
Dylan needs to give us better link up play running up the field or get into the centre and become more of a threat before even getting into the above conversation unfortunatley.
Not really. I said it because it was one position he did play well that year. Hasn't been tried since. We know Touhy's as capable defensively but could be valuable in the midfield too, especially with his run and ball use.
This is an ok idea, but it seems to be about ensuring Dylan can get a game, rather than whats best for the team.
Tuohy is just as capable defensively, as is Byrne, and Sheehan who once again showed that he is a good kick of the footy even playing under duress on saturday. They all provide the same amount of dash off half back as Dylan, and they can all get up the field and be a threat like Dylan.
Dylan needs to give us better link up play running up the field or get into the centre and become more of a threat before even getting into the above conversation unfortunatley.
Dylan needs to grow some smarts and some efficiency of ball use. His decision making and ball use as as bad or barely better than Mitch Robinson, and he doesn't have Mitch's ability to stop or hurt opponents.
Point in case pick one out of Buckley or Nahas, I suspect it would be 50/50 for a decent sample size and that is damning!
Dylan needs to grow some smarts and some efficiency of ball use. His decision making and ball use as as bad or barely better than Mitch Robinson, and he doesn't have Mitch's ability to stop or hurt opponents.
Point in case pick one out of Buckley or Nahas, I suspect it would be 50/50 for a decent sample size and that is damning!
Ball use isn't really much of an issue if you can't get the ball to begin with.
Buckley has to win more of his own ball, make better position for handball receives, become a tackling machine or, preferably, all three if his career is going to flourish.
Has so many laudable attributes but doesn't get it enough, too light, makes poor decisions and has scratchy disposal. I hate to say it but I fear he is gone.
If scardey-Tutt gets a game before you at this time of the year then you would have to seriously think your position is in jeopardy at Carlton
Any chance he could make it as a midfielder ??
Any chance he could make it as a midfielder ??
I'll assume you refer to Buckley, maybe but he would need to build significant bulk and core strength, at the moment he bounces off opponents.
If you are referring to Tutt, he has one significant midfield trick. Team-mates can use him as an open space indicator because that is the direction he always heads!
Had high hopes for him, along with Nick Graham, this year.
Both have been major disappointments I think.
Players like Byrne, Wright, Sumner and Kerridge have gone past them.
Had high hopes for him, along with Nick Graham, this year.
Both have been major disappointments I think.
Players like Byrne, Wright, Sumner and Kerridge have gone past them.
despite this I think Buckley will survive purely based on the ages of Simmo, Wright, Walker, Jammo, etc., etc.. But he would be very nervous about who we pick up.
I'll assume you refer to Buckley, maybe but he would need to build significant bulk and core strength, at the moment he bounces off opponents.
If you are referring to Tutt, he has one significant midfield trick. Team-mates can use him as an open space indicator because that is the direction he always heads!
I have little or no interest in Tutt so yes, I was referring to Buckley especially as he is what the thread is about.
If scardey-Tutt gets a game before you at this time of the year then you would have to seriously think your position is in jeopardy at Carlton
Reward for effort.
Tutt has had at least one BOG in the few games.
How long has Kade Simpson got left?
I could see Buckley playing a similar role.
He is nowhere near as good as Simpson at the moment, but Kade took a while to really get going as well.
How long has Kade Simpson got left?
I could see Buckley playing a similar role.
He is nowhere near as good as Simpson at the moment, but Kade took a while to really get going as well.
Simmo has got as long as he wants; 2 or 3 years at least.
I don't like Buckley's chances of taking on Simmo's role. Simmo is a champion and Buckley simply doesn't get enough of the pill. At the same age, Simmo was averaging twice as many possessions as Buckley. Simmo has a bit of height on Buckley and is an excellent mark for his size. I can't really see Buckley going back with the flight or going third man up to spoil. Then there's the question of decision-making.
I'd say that Buckley would be well down on the list of potential Simmo replacements.
How long has Kade Simpson got left?
I could see Buckley playing a similar role.
He is nowhere near as good as Simpson at the moment, but Kade took a while to really get going as well.
Mate, I think you are dangerously underestimating Simmo's contribution to and inspiration for the team with that idea atm. Dylan would have to do a hell of a lot more before it could even be put up as a remote possibility.
I'd say that Buckley would be well down on the list of potential Simmo replacements.
Simmos replacement has been born yet.
Would be most surprised if Buckley stayed on the list. His limitations in size are not made up for in skill or decision making. He struggled to get games under Malthouse. With his skills as they are, he just isn't going to get many more opportunities. He has had plenty of time, and we are often quick to dismiss others who have had 2 or 3 years of chances.
Simmos replacement has been born yet.
DVR could be the Simmo replacement if he can become consistent and be prepared to attack the footy the same way.....left footer who is composed when he has the ball and can kick goals, its his work off the ball and
consistent contesting that he needs to improve. Kade would make a great mentor for him..
DVR could be the Simmo replacement if he can become consistent and be prepared to attack the footy the same way.....left footer who is composed when he has the ball and can kick goals, its his work off the ball and
consistent contesting that he needs to improve. Kade would make a great mentor for him..
Yes EB, Skittles could be the man but he's got a lot of work ahead of him. His first challenge is to build on the form he's shown recently and to be consistent with his effort and application. If that gets him a contract extension, he can start working on the crazy brave stuff.
Docherty is the man to eventually replace the spirit of Simmo in the team IMO. Give him another year or two. Has the same kind of grit, passion and dedication and will be an increasingly inspirational figure.
Docherty is the man to eventually replace the spirit of Simmo in the team IMO. Give him another year or two. Has the same kind of grit, passion and dedication and will be an increasingly inspirational figure.
I'm with you here.
Docherty, like Simmo have a knack of remaining focused and driven. They both have a "do what you must to get it done" approach and make the difficult appear routine.
As for Buckley. I've seen only glimpses of class. It looks like this year's been a real struggle so far with form and discipline (i.e. suspension). I'd say if he can't find his mojo, and find it consistently for the second half of the year, his number might be up.
Not sure what his contract entails though.
Docherty is the man to eventually replace the spirit of Simmo in the team IMO. Give him another year or two. Has the same kind of grit, passion and dedication and will be an increasingly inspirational figure.
We need to find a replacement for Docherty then as he is already on the same level like you say.
These two are doing an incredible job this year.
Mate, I think you are dangerously underestimating Simmo's contribution to and inspiration for the team with that idea atm. Dylan would have to do a hell of a lot more before it could even be put up as a remote possibility.
Mate, I dont think you read my post.
I think I actually said that he is nowhere near Simpson.
I accept what everyone is saying re ability.
My thinking was more along the lines of the running off half back that Simpson does for the team.
Obviously Simmo is the heart and soul of this team, or a big part thereof, and I am in no way insinuating I want Buckley to replace him before his time is up.
I'll just put that idea back in the cupboard.
I'm with you here.
Docherty, like Simmo have a knack of remaining focused and driven. They both have a "do what you must to get it done" approach and make the difficult appear routine.
As for Buckley. I've seen only glimpses of class. It looks like this year's been a real struggle so far with form and discipline (i.e. suspension). I'd say if he can't find his mojo, and find it consistently for the second half of the year, his number might be up.
Not sure what his contract entails though.
It's not just undisciplined acts on the field, it's an apparent inability to follow a team orientated game plan. He appears to make a lot of "give it to me" type decisions and burns team-mates in the process.
Mate, I dont think you read my post.
I think I actually said that he is nowhere near Simpson.
I accept what everyone is saying re ability.
My thinking was more along the lines of the running off half back that Simpson does for the team.
Obviously Simmo is the heart and soul of this team, or a big part thereof, and I am in no way insinuating I want Buckley to replace him before his time is up.
I'll just put that idea back in the cupboard.
OK. Btw, I would love to see Dylan make it for us. I saw him deliver the ball beautifully to Jack s. a couple of times playing or the NBs last w/e.
OK. Btw, I would love to see Dylan make it for us. I saw him deliver the ball beautifully to Jack s. a couple of times playing or the NBs last w/e.
Fraser showed a lot of faith in Buckley in his 3/4 time address. I'm not sure that Buckley was able to live up to it but it indicates that his coach believes that he is capable. I guess he was one of the senior/experienced players out there.
I'd be keeping Buckley. I like the tools he has. he can improve and has shown he can. think he's a little lost for position and worth to the team at the moment. He has passion in spades. I want blokes like this!
Is he (actually or potentially) a better mid than Graham, for example?
If the answer is no, surely he's marginal at best.