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Re: AFL Rd 22 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #75
Plenty of focus, me included, on the blokes we're missing.....Cerra, Walsh, McGovern, Harry, Silvagni and Kennedy. But I reckon the blokes who've come in or returned from injury over the last 8 weeks have been instrumental in the turnaround. Martin has been fantastic and is tough and hard at the ball and man. Motlop and Owies and Fogarty are providing pressure stuff in the forward line, and Fog up around the middle at times. Cunningham wasn't as good last night but he has a bit of class about him. Pittonet coming back in, Cincotta has really stood up and Kemp seems to go from strength to strength every week. That hanger last night showed he's got the confidence now to go for that. And Dow has been great too. Yes, still makes some blunders but last night I thought he was really hard at it and put his body on the line a number of times late in the game and tackled strongly. He looks to be doing everything that's being asked of him and if it means we offer him another year or two, so be it.

And the senior blokes stood tall again...Cripps was huge and Weitering solid as a rock down back.

That's the top 3 teams and St Kilda (who were 5th) that we've beaten in the last 5 or 6 weeks. Hard to believe but we're the form team in the competition. Don't worry about other results (will be nice though), just win the last two, get some players back, and hopefully snare a home final in week 1.

Re: AFL Rd 22 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #76
Over the past seasons I have been critical of Carlton for using pick 3 to select Dow.  But on his recent performances he has finally arrived and I would hate to see him running around next year in another team's jumper.

I know that when we have a full list available there is not room for him in the midfield, but given the hard tackling, high pressure game we now play what is the likelihood of ever having an injury free list?

In no particular order these are what I see as his main attributes:
 He is only 23
He has developed physically into a very solid unit
He is not injury prone
His kicking skills are now at an acceptable level
He is hard at the ball and helps to take the pressure off Cripps.

I believe he has shown enough to be offered a contract.

He absolutely should be offered a contract but  West Coast are going to be given compensation package where they must trade end of 2nd round and 3rd round pick for an established player. Someone like Dow could be given assurances of regular AFL football and double his pay. So this one could be out of our hands.

Re: AFL Rd 22 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #77
He absolutely should be offered a contract but  West Coast are going to be given compensation package where they must trade end of 2nd round and 3rd round pick for an established player. Someone like Dow could be given assurances of regular AFL football and double his pay. So this one could be out of our hands.

175 tackles between the two sides. 88 to 87. That's some pressure.

Re: AFL Rd 22 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #78
Razer Ray needs to stop guessing when making decisions. He was incapable of seeing Cuningham holding up the Melbourne player in the tackle from where he was.

Razor was going to ball it up.  A non-controlling umpire 30-40m away paid the dangerous tackle free.

What about the blatant throw from Petracca that resulted in the Neal-Bullen goal in the third quarter?
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 22 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #79
Good on ya mate, I'm glad you're excited, you should be, we all should be. But I'm gonna curb my excitement until we are 100% guaranteed a finals birth, right we now we are not.

X100

Re: AFL Rd 22 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #80
Before we get all high and mighty about the umpires Cripps was gifted a goal he probably shouldn't have had for a throw that was really an illegal disposal.

That being said, they get a lot wrong both for and against both teams and the result was the correct one imho.  We were due a bit of footy gods luck.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 22 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #81
Razor was going to ball it up.  A non-controlling umpire 30-40m away paid the dangerous tackle free.

What about the blatant throw from Petracca that resulted in the Neal-Bullen goal in the third quarter?

Yes was going to mention that. Razor looked from side to side to see if any of the other umpires were going to pay the free kick. He was the controlling umpire and was directly in front of it.

No wonder their sponsored by OPSM!!

Re: AFL Rd 22 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #82
Yes was going to mention that. Razor looked from side to side to see if any of the other umpires were going to pay the free kick. He was the controlling umpire and was directly in front of it.
No wonder their sponsored by OPSM!!
Has anyone in the media mentioned WHY Ray has been afforded the luxury of not having to bounce the ball at centre bounces?

Re: AFL Rd 22 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #83
Has anyone in the media mentioned WHY Ray has been afforded the luxury of not having to bounce the ball at centre bounces?

Honestly, i think the bounce is a very outdated tradition.
We are losing good umpires, and preventing new ones from joining the elite, because they need to perfect the bounce.
Forget that. Throw the ball up and get the best umpires we can get based on decision making ability and knowledge of the game......not a party trick.

Re: AFL Rd 22 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #84
Before we get all high and mighty about the umpires Cripps was gifted a goal he probably shouldn't have had for a throw that was really an illegal disposal.

That being said, they get a lot wrong both for and against both teams and the result was the correct one imho.  We were due a bit of footy gods luck.

Oliver threw the ball and it was unquestionably a free to Cripps.

It’s disappointing that so many throws are let go.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 22 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #85
Just watched the replay 🙃

- didn't capitalise on early dominance. High pressure but also missed a couple of easy one's
- last line work is next level
- leaders led
- role players played their roles
- 100% effort 100% of the game
- Harry-less Charlie double teamed again. Held, pushed, but kept fighting
- we made a mockery of some of the commentary
- priceless celebrations by players, coaches, and game day staff (Vossy's bear hug with physio summed it up 🥹)
- our supporters are so important (bring it v gws)
- we have cohesion, commitment, team focus, and some kind of x-factor going on. Then there's momentum!
- just one more W
- any Voss doubters have been challenged

Go Blues

Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: AFL Rd 22 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #86
With our win over Casey, it's just become a Deelightful weekend for Bluebaggers.
Someone had to say it 😝Anyways it's got to be better than "isn't that good" or "woowee". And it doesn't cost a cent😉
Waverley Blues defeated Montrose Demons in U11 GF as well.  Great weekend.

 

Re: AFL Rd 22 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #87
Waverley Blues defeated Montrose Demons in U11 GF as well.  Great weekend.

🤣
Perfect. Pretty sure the U11's would appreciate the humour. Or not 😳
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: AFL Rd 22 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #88
I'll test it out in the morning

Re: AFL Rd 22 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #89
Oliver threw the ball and it was unquestionably a free to Cripps.

It’s disappointing that so many throws are let go.
looked like he made contact to me. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson