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Re: AFL Rd 24 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #150 –
Quote from: Lods on
I'm not a  big believer in "the loss, you have to have".
I just wonder at the ability to maintain the kind of intense pressure we've been playing with over the last half of the season.
There must be some cumulative effect on a side, both mentally and physically.
At some point there may even be a breaking point if there is no down-time.

And after this game there will be no down time...it's about to ramp up 100%

Winning form is good form - Geelong carried it all the way to the flag last year with 16 on the trot.  If we were get to the Big Dance and win, that would make it 14.......

Simple formula really, just keep winning.
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

Re: AFL Rd 24 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #151 –
My concern isnt that we're winning.
Winning is good.
Momentum is good.
It's the way we're winning and the draining nature of that game of intense pressure that we play.
We'll see if it's sustainable, but it wont surprise if we have a bit of a dip....and after this weekend we can't afford a dip.

Re: AFL Rd 24 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #152 –
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/1414266/what-they-said

Scroll down to the bottom and listen to Voss's post match talk to the players. It's very good.
There's a message there that it's not all set in stone, that hard matches 'may' take a toll, and the effort and concentration has to be maintained.

Re: AFL Rd 24 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #153 –
Quote from: Lods on
My concern isnt that we're winning.
Winning is good.
Momentum is good.
It's the way we're winning and the draining nature of that game of intense pressure that we play.
We'll see if it's sustainable, but it wont surprise if we have a bit of a dip....and after this weekend we can't afford a dip.
Pressure makes diamonds.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 24 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #155 –
Quote from: Lods on
It also makes cracks. ;)
Not if the right material is used.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 24 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #156 –
I guess what I'm getting at is that we shouldn't lose the plot if we have a less than impressive performance on the weekend.
We're in good shape.
Our best is probably good enough to match it with any other side in contention.
The game that matters is in two weeks time, not two days.
I don't subscribe to the opinion that we have to keep performing at our optimum level to perform when it counts.
If we play GWS two weeks in a row I'd rather we play our best game on the second week.
 

Re: AFL Rd 24 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #157 –
Quote from: Lods on
My concern isnt that we're winning.
Winning is good.
Momentum is good.
It's the way we're winning and the draining nature of that game of intense pressure that we play.
We'll see if it's sustainable, but it wont surprise if we have a bit of a dip....and after this weekend we can't afford a dip.

I think we had a bit of a dip last game. Those who'd been 'covering' for the significant outs, and doing it brilliantly, were tiring. But they found extra after qtr time, regained ground, and hung on to win... against a better opponent that 44 pt turnaround may not have been possible. There seems to be an embedded expectation with this group now to win, and to find a way to win regardless of the circumstances. Strong above the shoulders stuff, a 180 degree turnaround.

Rapt that we'll be meeting a good side in very good form this Sunday. Hopefully other results go their way and come Sunday at 6:10pm they'll be fighting for a place in the 8.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 24 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #158 –
Quote from: Baggers on
I think we had a bit of a dip last game. Those who'd been 'covering' for the significant outs, and doing it brilliantly, were tiring. But they found extra after qtr time, regained ground, and hung on to win... against a better opponent that 44 pt turnaround may not have been possible. There seems to be an embedded expectation with this group now to win, and to find a way to win regardless of the circumstances. Strong above the shoulders stuff, a 180 degree turnaround.

Rapt that we'll be meeting a good side in very good form this Sunday. Hopefully other results go their way and come Sunday at 6:10pm they'll be fighting for a place in the 8.

Yep, the key is not to fall behind by 44 points to begin with, and wrestle back the momentum earlier.

I choose to believe the weekend was a learning experience.  The learning being, arrest the momentum before the game gets to that point and then bring it back later. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 24 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #159 –
Quote from: Lods on
I guess what I'm getting at is that we shouldn't lose the plot if we have a less than impressive performance on the weekend.
We're in good shape.
Our best is probably good enough to match it with any other side in contention.
The game that matters is in two weeks time, not two days.
I don't subscribe to the opinion that we have to keep performing at our optimum level to perform when it counts.
If we play GWS two weeks in a row I'd rather we play our best game on the second week.
Our serious business commences week one of the finals.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 24 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #160 –
Am in complete agreement with the above

Just watched the second quarter v GC and we really did Will ourselves back into it. had we not been so knackered we would’ve put it away in the third but just couldn’t BUT still got the job done!

So proud of them and think it’ll be a very interesting game.

Re: AFL Rd 24 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #161 –
It won't be the end of the world if we lose on Sunday ... provided that we give 100% effort, maintain our ruthless attack on the aggot, and play our brand of footy.  Of course, if we do that, we should win.

I am a little concerned about the risk of bringing three players back into the team after injury.  They could be well off the pace and that could be critical against a desperate opposition.  I understand the need to get games into players before the finals and the inexplicable VFL fixture doesn't help there.  I would have left McGovern out or perhaps had him as the sub.

Blues by 25 points.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 24 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #162 –
Quote from: Micky0 on
Am in complete agreement with the above

Just watched the second quarter v GC and we really did Will ourselves back into it. had we not been so knackered we would’ve put it away in the third but just couldn’t BUT still got the job done!

So proud of them and think it’ll be a very interesting game.

That's how I saw it too.
Similar to the Blues v GC earlier in the season. In both games we had the deck chairs out and GC rightly took advantage. The difference was thier inaccurate goalkicking in the former round v sharpshooters in the latter.

Once we switched on, we looked good against a talented side at home in the sun.

In terms of sustainability of the switched on system, I think that  comes down to the number of contributors. It also depends on the the arsenal the opposition have. That's where coaching and cohesiveness come in. Having the benef of finals experience gives knowledge of the different level of intensity and energy shifting required.

That siad. I think this game offers the perfect opportunity to apply our arsenal and learn accordingly.

Go Blues
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: AFL Rd 24 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #163 –
Every side we play from now on would not have let us back in the game last week. Our last 3 weeks there has been a drop off, hoping it's due to Cerra and Walsh being out and that we can get back to the footy we were playing when we pumped Collingwood and Port.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 24 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #164 –
Finals are all about gut running until you drop, they are a game scenario made for Walsh.

I'm not loading expectation on him, but he is going to be exciting to watch!
The Force Awakens!