Carlton Supporters Club

People need to watch the replay.

Gibbs' game was too instruction.

Jamo has probably struggled since his mate went up forward. Hendo too valuable to go back now and Mick needs to find a suitable replacement. I'm not sure these guys who need to worry about their games rather than helping out the backline are the answer.

Quote from: cimm1979 on July 20, 2013, 12:45:12 am

People need to watch the replay.

Gibbs' game was too instruction.

Manned up Ziebell ok but I thought his field kicking was terrible, missed easy targets and it detracted from his game, a good stat was his tackle count of 7.

Quote from: laj on July 20, 2013, 12:31:28 am

Quote from: Brettie on July 20, 2013, 12:19:00 am

Quote from: chalkybill on July 19, 2013, 11:21:42 pm

Jammo certainly was bad.  He has no pace this year and obviously hates playing N.M.  He gets a bath every time.  His fumbling tonight was especially bad, but at least he tries.  Watson is an absolute NO-TRIER!

Elwood you mention Watson's mark.  Well done, it was his only highlight and as I said, he was in the vicinity so he had a chance.

Purlease - for mine, Watson was our best defender tonight.....how'd his opponent go? Best game Watson has played by a mile, really encouraged with his performance tonight.

Jamo was disgusting.....that's 3 consecutive weeks of us possibly witnessing the demise of Jamo. Has not got a clue out there at the moment, embarrassing he is, total liability. Can't kick, constant brain explosions, can't get near his man - even in situations whereby his opponent is the obvious choice for having the ball delivered, Jamo manages to misread the play/flight of the ball/be too slow off the mark.......I'm over him. He got lucky with Riewoldt's kicking for goal last week, but he is in career-worst form. I hope like hell we're talking to some other full-backs out there come trade time.....Jamo's cooked.

Not cooked, far from it. Certainly out of form though.

Stick a fork in him......he's done. Not just beaten, has been obliterated for 3 consecutive weeks by 3 of the premier forwards in the game. If Jamo can't play FB (which all the signs are that he no longer can), where does he play? If he manages to reverse this 'form slump' as you VERY kindly put it, the guy is a champion - however I'm fairly confident that ain't gonna happen as every single aspect of his game stinks right now.....EVERY aspect bar none.

Also....loved Lucas' cameos tonight - were as important as anything anyone else did on the ground. He's starting to restore the faith is Kane....good on him too.

Quote from: cimm1979 on July 20, 2013, 12:45:12 am

People need to watch the replay.

Gibbs' game was too instruction.

Manned up Ziebell ok but I thought his field kicking was terrible, missed easy targets and it detracted from his game, a good stat was his tackle count of 7.

Jamo did well for a guy being up against a bloody man mountain. Hard to defend against Neanderthals like that particularly when the kicks were perfect for the forward to mark....have another look at the game...

Quote from: laj on July 20, 2013, 12:31:28 am

Quote from: Brettie on July 20, 2013, 12:19:00 am

Quote from: chalkybill on July 19, 2013, 11:21:42 pm

Jammo certainly was bad.  He has no pace this year and obviously hates playing N.M.  He gets a bath every time.  His fumbling tonight was especially bad, but at least he tries.  Watson is an absolute NO-TRIER!

Elwood you mention Watson's mark.  Well done, it was his only highlight and as I said, he was in the vicinity so he had a chance.

Purlease - for mine, Watson was our best defender tonight.....how'd his opponent go? Best game Watson has played by a mile, really encouraged with his performance tonight.

Jamo was disgusting.....that's 3 consecutive weeks of us possibly witnessing the demise of Jamo. Has not got a clue out there at the moment, embarrassing he is, total liability. Can't kick, constant brain explosions, can't get near his man - even in situations whereby his opponent is the obvious choice for having the ball delivered, Jamo manages to misread the play/flight of the ball/be too slow off the mark.......I'm over him. He got lucky with Riewoldt's kicking for goal last week, but he is in career-worst form. I hope like hell we're talking to some other full-backs out there come trade time.....Jamo's cooked.

Not cooked, far from it. Certainly out of form though.

Stick a fork in him......he's done. Not just beaten, has been obliterated for 3 consecutive weeks by 3 of the premier forwards in the game. If Jamo can't play FB (which all the signs are that he no longer can), where does he play? If he manages to reverse this 'form slump' as you VERY kindly put it, the guy is a champion - however I'm fairly confident that ain't gonna happen as every single aspect of his game stinks right now.....EVERY aspect bar none.

Also....loved Lucas' cameos tonight - were as important as anything anyone else did on the ground. He's starting to restore the faith is Kane....good on him too.

Yarran was playing on a young kid still in Taylor Hine and didn't dominate him, but he certainly had a real impact on contests, there was an embarrassing moment I hope MM doesn't let slip though where he should have beaten Grima at ground level and was basically just swatted away. He did however go at the ball a lot harder and chased and tackled.

good game, felt the chest tighten up a few times and had 000 typed in my phone with my finger on the send button a few times.

jamo got beaten, too easy for my liking aswell. but it happens, petrie is a good player but out of form. expected better from jamo.
2e had a shocking first half, came back, credit to the irishman.
judd was quiet, but so was the midfield int he first half.
scotland, would condsider him surplus now with walker and simpson down back, just as good with the ball those 2 plus much better defenders.

now for the good

lucas, improving alot this year. butchers the ball but i think hes showed hes worth persisting with.
watson, been on the bagwagaon since day 1 and he frustrates me. but played well enough today and happy with his performance. if the coaching staff could work out a way to get his intensity up and fire him up, he will be in the best 18 everyday.
hendo, finally found that key forward. i think his time down back has helped him develop his work up forward aswell.
special k, very special indeed


i think rowe provides that contest and good 2nd ruck we need. imagine with waite back in up foward aswell, suddenly we have the attack to threaten the big teams with 3 big options and classy small forwards

Are people influenced too much by statistics?

Watson's man was Robbie Tarrant for anyone in doubt, I mentioned in my discussions prior to the game that it was always likely to be him, but that I thought North should have played Daw instead, I also think if they did... they would have won this game.

Watson was so far behind Tarrant on the lead  tonight that it was embarrassing. I was sitting with a North mate and pointed out the contest before the game, but both agreed that it was unlikely Tarrant would be able to exploit it, because if he gets a free hit at a contested pack mark he is going to reach in to mark, or turn away, because he severely lacks the fortitude required to put a body into the contest, he also is only an average mark anyway and when he kicks a few goals it is often with great kicks, which he is.

I think Tarrant created plenty of chances to influence the game and very little that Watson done had any  influence on Tarrant not taking those chances.

Now I have said negative things about Watson before, so perhaps this comes across as biased.... But I absolutely think he had a poor game, it would be akin to saying in the first half McInnes beat Black... nope Black's horrific kicking beat himself. I do think McInnes was better in the 2nd half and the same goes for Watson.

In context of the season - best win of the season.

The Kangabies threw absolutely everything at us... and in previous seasons, regardless of form, they've won 'their' Friday night against top sides. They steel themsevles for this Friday night game.

Considering the blokes we had 'down'... it was a seriously good win (gotta address the fade). 

Perhaps some of Jammo's problems last night may have been because he was aware that he could not depend on Watson for support.