Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: MosquitoFleet on September 18, 2014, 12:42:02 pm

Quote from: Baggers on September 18, 2014, 10:35:45 am

Quote from: Thryleon on September 18, 2014, 10:34:14 am

Im with Malo, we should start looking at lobbying to build a boutique initally 30 thousand odd seater at PP with plans to move to 40 and then 50 thousand odd moving forward, and ditch crapihad altogether.

The Cats are upgrading down at Kardinia Park, and are not even half way through a project built in stages, where they are systematically refurbing and improving.

We should follow that model and do the same.

Yep.

Make it x 2

If Princes Park kept his larger ground size than Etihad , kept the Etihad seating and without the Etihad roof and sub floor car park would be brilliant...

Every time this coms up I grind my teeth with frustration: had John Elliott had a better relationship with the AFL we would still be laying at Princes Park and it would be a seriously upgraded place.
Over the past 50 years we had to scrape and save to get money to improve our ground. But always we had to make compromises, some of them huge. With AFL backing there would be a true stadium able to hold at least 50,000 people with a huge underground car park available for Melbourne Uni and others during the week and decent lights allowing true night football. We probably would have been able to upgrade the public transport to boot, as the AFL and the various governments generally get along quite well.

Instead, we are migratory with no home ground advantage, while the AFL pours money into rat holes like Kardinia Park.

Maybe there can be a move to refurbish Princes Park (where Optus and Visy would probably fight to have naming rights again), but it would cost so much more now in just about every way possible. Certainly we would lose control.

Elliott had some really good ideas, and his vision for our ground was one of them, but the animosity he engendered has made us suffer in so many ways.

Crash, are we still paying off the Legends Stand ?

If that money had been invested a little more wisely, virtually the entire grounds seating could have been refurbished !!

Quote from: malo on September 18, 2014, 02:05:28 pm

Crash, are we still paying off the Legends Stand ?

If that money had been invested a little more wisely, virtually the entire grounds seating could have been refurbished !!

Yes, the ground's stands, not just the Legend's Stand, are still being paid off. However, the debt is not that high any longer.

It was supposed to be paid off over 25 years originally, as a strong asset with depreciation and all of that stuff. After Princes Park was eliminated as an AFL venue, it was degraded to the point where it was worth more as scrap. The loan then had to be reorganized.
I'm not quite sure of the financial state at this moment, but I am certain that the majority of the debt has been paid.
Thankfully the various layers of government helped to pay for the redevelopment, so that side of things is not a major financial issue.