Carlton Supporters Club

In Tennis parlance, Carlton is a Thomas Berdych - Talented knocking on the door of the top bunch but cant crack through

Will be visiting this site more after TC once again got touchy over my questioning of the club's decision making.
 If anyone knows my views the Judd deal was bad . You would only give up 2 potentially fine players who would be now at their peak and a 50 goals a year player for the best player in the land if the club thought they would win a flag in that time.
We are a long way off it and Judd hasn't long to go. Armfield the bi-product of the deal is a reasonable footballer but I reckon his skills arn't good enough to play in flags.
 Once again the club screws up.

Two things to consider
Injuries and depth. Last year I went to see Geelong and the Northern Blues at Skilled and we scored one goal in a half of footy in perfect conditions with around 15 listed and rookie listed players. Obviously our depth was crap but it wasn't tested with a lack of injuries. With the addition of the new players from other clubs our depth is marginally better but if injuries mount up we are in big trouble.
The opposition that finished below us could all improve this year which means that we need to get better just to finish 9th( yes that is where we finished last year in reality)

My view is that this list is not capable of winning a flag and we need to rebuild now. Not getting sheepdogs that Thomas or guys who simply aren't up to it like Cameron Wood.

The problem is the culture of the club which is where too good to rebuild. This view has been the club's biggest problem. Its own view of itself.
Personally I am coming around to the view that MM isn't the answer

THEY SAID IT

"He's (Kreuzer) served his apprenticeship and I think in the next 30-40 games he'll really come into his own.

"If he doesn’t get more serious injuries he could play another 150-200 games. If that happens, he'll just keep getting better and become not only one of the best ruckmen but one of the best players in the competition.

“He can do things that other ruckmen can't. What's underestimated is his ability to do things after he hits the ball. He doesn’t just stand back and let the little fellas fight for the ball; he lays tackles and shepherds and stays in the contest. He certainly imposes himself.” – Former Carlton premiership ruckman Justin Madden, Saturday 27 July.

Even under Ratten playing the 'hot' WCE in a Perth final, bar injury to T-bird and some arguably parochial umpiring we would have won that game.

@Keogh

Been trying to convince to join the darkside for years welcome aboard!

Quote from: keogh on January 30, 2014, 08:00:22 am

Will be visiting this site more after TC once again got touchy over my questioning of the club's decision making.
 If anyone knows my views the Judd deal was bad . You would only give up 2 potentially fine players who would be now at their peak and a 50 goals a year player for the best player in the land if the club thought they would win a flag in that time.
We are a long way off it and Judd hasn't long to go. Armfield the bi-product of the deal is a reasonable footballer but I reckon his skills arn't good enough to play in flags.
 Once again the club screws up.

Two things to consider
Injuries and depth. Last year I went to see Geelong and the Northern Blues at Skilled and we scored one goal in a half of footy in perfect conditions with around 15 listed and rookie listed players. Obviously our depth was crap but it wasn't tested with a lack of injuries. With the addition of the new players from other clubs our depth is marginally better but if injuries mount up we are in big trouble.
The opposition that finished below us could all improve this year which means that we need to get better just to finish 9th( yes that is where we finished last year in reality)

My view is that this list is not capable of winning a flag and we need to rebuild now. Not getting sheepdogs that Thomas or guys who simply aren't up to it like Cameron Wood.

The problem is the culture of the club which is where too good to rebuild. This view has been the club's biggest problem. Its own view of itself.
Personally I am coming around to the view that MM isn't the answer

Entitled to your opinion Keogh but your views are about as glass half empty as they come.

Even under Ratten playing the 'hot' WCE in a Perth final, bar injury to T-bird and some arguably parochial umpiring we would have won that game.

We get Carrots and Thomas fit for 2014 our midfield is as good as any, nay probably the best, if Gibbs and Murphy find some serious form.

We now also have two real, quality swingmen for 2014 - Hendo and Everitt.

Injuries withstanding, we are a good a chance as any for top 4 in 2014. After that, it's a roll of the dice.

Judd is all class and arguably Josh K. would not have dwevelopped as he has if he had stayed at CFC.

Matt Kreuzer - yes a dissapointment thus far but he still has time on his side to be what we all thought he would be.... a champion.

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THEY SAID IT

"He's (Kreuzer) served his apprenticeship and I think in the next 30-40 games he'll really come into his own.

"If he doesn’t get more serious injuries he could play another 150-200 games. If that happens, he'll just keep getting better and become not only one of the best ruckmen but one of the best players in the competition.

“He can do things that other ruckmen can't. What's underestimated is his ability to do things after he hits the ball. He doesn’t just stand back and let the little fellas fight for the ball; he lays tackles and shepherds and stays in the contest. He certainly imposes himself.” – Former Carlton premiership ruckman Justin Madden, Saturday 27 July.

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2013-10-02/2013-review-matthew-kreuzer

Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on January 30, 2014, 01:52:02 pm

@Keogh

Been trying to convince to join the darkside for years welcome aboard!

Hopefully this site doesn't squash peoples opiniond

Quote from: keogh on January 30, 2014, 02:59:00 pm

Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on January 30, 2014, 01:52:02 pm

@Keogh

Been trying to convince to join the darkside for years welcome aboard!

Hopefully this site doesn't squash peoples opiniond

Hmmm can guarantee that your opinions, whilst more than likely being unwelcome to some, will remain up for all to see. Sometimes that's a good thing and sometimes it's bad thing!!

We still have major flaws in how we approach each game and we have a leader (and leadership group ) who has huge question marks over whether he can influence the  group in a way which demands they work even when the odds are against them.

Well, only the 2014 season can judge whether Murphy will garner Selwood like respect....?

Welcome to Keogh..always enjoyed his work on TC and we can always do with another point of view that isnt blinded by a Navy Blue haze....
Have not been back to TC in ages.....are the Cazz's with blind loyalty still defending the recruiting?