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Will be visiting this site more after TC once again got touchy over my questioning of the club's decision making.

Good CHF's win premierships........you put JK at CHF in our team and we are top 4.....but something had to give to get Judd and steady what was a sinking ship.

In my memory, our KP backs and forwards have included: Lofts, Walls, Kekovich, V. Waite, (Swan) McKay, Southby, Doull (when KPPs didn't have to be 6' 4" or better!), Maclure, Fitzpatrick (yes, fronted up at CHF on many occasions), Perovic, Bortolotto/Ditchburn (did their jobs for a short period), Silvagni, Dean, Aitkin (unless a sack of cowardly slime broke his jaw - never the same after that), Kernahan, Dorotich, Spalding...

This year it is Jamison, Watson, Henderson and Waite. Good on paper... but, will Watto stand up, ditto Waite?

Will Casboult take the next step? Ditto Rowe.

@Slugger
Tend to agree with you Slugger but I think a critical mass of good players is reached in a team when it is then able to carry a couple of lesser mortals, who can look better than they really are. An example for me would be say Josh Hunt who IMO is a very average player but looked adequate most of the time for the Cats, but also had some glaring lapses on occasions.

I think we are still probably still 2-3 quality players short of that critical point. With the advancing years of Scotto, Juddy and Waite we need to address this issue very soon, as we could fall back alarmingly pdq.

Quote from: cookie2 on February 02, 2014, 01:20:26 pm

@Slugger
Tend to agree with you Slugger but I think a critical mass of good players is reached in a team when it is then able to carry a couple of lesser mortals, who can look better than they really are. An example for me would be say Josh Hunt who IMO is a very average player but looked adequate most of the time for the Cats, but also had some glaring lapses on occasions.

I think we are still probably still 2-3 quality players short of that critical point. With the advancing years of Scotto, Juddy and Waite we need to address this issue very soon, as we could fall back alarmingly pdq.

Love your work, Furry Biscuit.

It really is achieving that balance across the board where there is that (as you write) critical balance of above average and elite players (talls and meds and smalls).

Matt Clape would be another good example of an average dude who was in the right place at the right time ('95). McKenzie in '87 would be another.

Quote from: cookie2 on February 02, 2014, 01:20:26 pm

@Slugger
Tend to agree with you Slugger but I think a critical mass of good players is reached in a team when it is then able to carry a couple of lesser mortals, who can look better than they really are. An example for me would be say Josh Hunt who IMO is a very average player but looked adequate most of the time for the Cats, but also had some glaring lapses on occasions.

I think we are still probably still 2-3 quality players short of that critical point. With the advancing years of Scotto, Juddy and Waite we need to address this issue very soon, as we could fall back alarmingly pdq.

Love your work, Furry Biscuit.

It really is achieving that balance across the board where there is that (as you write) critical balance of above average and elite players (talls and meds and smalls).

Matt Clape would be another good example of an average dude who was in the right place at the right time ('95). McKenzie in '87 would be another.

Spent a bit of time with the (Collingwood supporting) uncle today. I reckon we should make Rene' Kink an assistant coaching offer he cannot refuse!!

Quote from: Gozza on February 02, 2014, 08:20:54 pm

Spent a bit of time with the (Collingwood supporting) uncle today. I reckon we should make Rene' Kink an assistant coaching offer he cannot refuse!!

Really ? The Hulk ?? Last I remember of him was a boxing match years ago.

Quote from: Thryleon on January 31, 2014, 01:44:06 pm

Its all hindsight.

Judd brought more than just his own ability.  It has been mentioned the Juddite nature of the entire side, and it was public knowledge that our boys were unproffessional thanks the influences around them.

I would be willing to bet, that the majority of the group started lifting their game month by month since Judd arrived where before that, there was little improvement to be had in the group.

No amount of Dangerfields, Kennedy's or anything would have fixed that, as Nick Stevens ruled the roost, with Fevola just behind him.  They were the picture of everything that was culturally wrong about our football team, and the culture that Judd will have helped instill in our playing group will be one that lasts long after he is finished playing footy.

We dont know how much of this would have changed without him at the club, nor whether or not we would have been able to hang onto the blokes that have renewed their contracts since he arrived.

Disagree if the culture of the place was better then there is no need to have the best player coming to the club to fix the problem.