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Must admit, things was better than it was mid last year. I just like the fact we are still talking finals, even if we miss out, rather than the no.1 pick. Make a big change!

Really out-thought. each of these moves was a winner for them. We simply need to be willing to change opponents during the game if something is not working.
In that respect, Teague is a lot like Ratten. He won't move someone until it is too late. This is something he has to learn before we are going to be a top side.

Must admit, things was better than it was mid last year. I just like the fact we are still talking finals, even if we miss out, rather than the no.1 pick. Make a big change!

Just a small qualification on our improvement.
I think we need to start thinking in terms of comparing 'Teague' to 'Teague.'
Comparing Teague to Bolton is an easy  win...and history.

Are we better at this stage of the season than we were at the 'end' of last season?
I reckon we are so that's a positive.... but there is still plenty of work to do.
The test for Teague is to continue to improve the side based on performance under him.
That's what he'll be judged on.

Hows this for comparing Teague to Teague.

Losing hurts again.  For the first time in a long time.  Even halfway through the 4th quarter, I thought we were in with a chance if we could get the next goal to steady the tide.

A massive plus, no real 4 goal run on by the opposition.  It was an arm wrestle until we couldnt score, and then we just didnt take our chances well enough (we had a lot of forward pressure time in the third where we didnt hit the scoreboard that cost us the game).

Sometimes we spend too much energy looking at the overall result, and the way the scores changed, but the old adage is true.  There is no pressure like scoreboard pressure.  A couple of times there I thought we were on the back foot, we stood up well, and managed to score against the tide and some other times, when we were pressuring them in the forward half, we didnt hit the scoreboard and they scored against the tide.  The game swung around a lot.  I remember commenting in the second quarter we had the games on our terms, and it was a bit easier, but we just didnt hit the scoreboard with a lot of forward entries.

I know a lot of people are going to point to the coaches box, but you have to remember that coaches are countering each other all game.

Just because they get one move right and another wrong, doesn't mean they made no moves.

Just because something they tried didnt work, doesnt mean they made no moves.

Cripps final attempt at goals in the 4th quarter was a direct result of pushing him forward.  He missed, and I think we didnt score again for that quarter.  Lets not forget he limped off too, and thats when Collingwood put the foot down and scored 2 in a row to put the game pretty much out of reach.

Teague has proven he can make changes in game to swing games.

In this game it didnt yield the result we would have liked, but when it comes down to it, it was a failure to take advantage of the momentum that cost us the game, not the efforts. 

Teague can make as many moves as you like but if the talent on the ground is not performing well enough, then what? The Pies are definitely performing better than us at the moment, even with their current injuries, and I am convinced that we need to inject more midfield talent if we are to improve to that next level.

Good post Thry, just to be clear, we didnt score a goal in the 3rd or the 4th. Two goalless qtrs is unacceptable. At what point does someone gather the troops or send a message out that "WE WILL SCORE THE NEXT GOAL NO MATTER WHAT". Now you might say that this is the obvious objective of football. But sometimes it takes an stern eyeballing from your skipper or coach that makes it crystal clear its non negotiable and by hook or by crook, we score a goal. I read once that Hodge (who I despise BTW) was renowned for this. When a undesirable trend was occurring in a game, he was the man who ensured it was stopped/changed.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/08/31/have-carltons-top-young-draft-picks-actually-improved/

Cornes is a flog but it's a pretty valid point. Go back as far as the draft of 2015 through to 2018 (LY too early to call yet)....and in those 4 years, who has really come on?

2015

Weitering - been a gun this year.
McKay - frustrates us with glimpses in patches but is also injured a lot.
Curno - ditto
Cunningham - ditto
Silvagni J - been a surprise packet for mine for such a late pick.

2016

SPS- again, glimpses in patches but hasn't come on.
Fisher - been good and looks like he can make it.
Macreadie - barely played with injuries and form.
Polson - been enough said already.
Williamson - finally getting some return this year.
Kerr - gone.

2017

Dow - enough said.
O'Brien - not sure he'll make it either.
TDK - after a couple of injury plagued seasons he's looking like a great pick up and a long term future for sure.
Schumacher - gone
Garlett - gone

2018

Walsh - gun
Stocker - who knows?
O'Dwyer - speculative pick unlikely to survive the cut.
Silvagni B - same as O'Dwyer?

So for 4 years worth of draft picks and plenty of really high ones, the only successes to date look to be Weitering, Curnow (?), Fisher, Williamson (maybe), Walsh, TDK....McKay into his 5th year and needs to get better pretty quickly....