I don't really know why I am getting this thread ready so early. Habit? Paranoia? Not getting to the Gym enough? Whatever.
Just make good use of it.
Well, thank god that's over.
It's r5 v Freo, just rinse and repeat.
Very hollow win. We played quite poorly and Weitering is injured.
Very real possibility we can beat the pies who are also terrible. When is the last time we won 3 in a row?
Very real possibility we can beat the pies who are also terrible. When is the last time we won 3 in a row?
At a guess, rounds 1-3, 2012.
Ahem...........
Relief....not bad for a rebuilding squad though.
Going to enjoy this one as the next one could take a while
Shocking really, any remotely decent side would have hammered us.
The only things we can take from the game are the form of Thomas and that Kreuzer and Phillips are taking marks.
Jones and Casboult are the worst combination of tall forwards I've ever seen at the CFC, they make Setanta O'Hailpin look like Tony Lockett.
Very real possibility we can beat the pies who are also terrible. When is the last time we won 3 in a row?
Without some major improvements in disposal, decision making and work rate I think that may be our last win for a while.
Shocking really, any remotely decent side would have hammered us.
The only things we can take from the game are the form of Thomas and that Kreuzer and Phillips are taking marks.
Jones and Casboult are the worst combination of tall forwards I've ever seen at the CFC, they make Setanta O'Hailpin look like Tony Lockett.
Have to play Jaksch, Dre and hopefully Walker not too far away.
Without some major improvements in disposal, decision making and work rate I think that may be our last win for a while.
Don't think you can question work rate....we are crapbut there was no let off in effort that I saw
Caz has got to go.
I've been a staunch supporter of his but I just cannot put up with this shiit any more.
He has no presence. He doesn't crash packs, or lead or spill to our crumbers,barely chases........... and theres no point even mentioning his goal kicking cos it doesnt exist.
The review tomorrow needs to concentrate on sharing the ball in front of goal. We were extremely selfish about 4 different times and didn't look for the obvious option.
Phew!! Thank God for that!! That win was like swimming through a crap filled creek to get to an island full of hot bikini clad women. Not pretty, but we'll take it!! Go Blues!!
Phillips, Sumner, Wright, Kerridge and Plowman all looking like recruiting strokes of genius by SOS.
Hoping Weits isn't injured too badly.
Daisy was very good today.
If he keeps going like that by the end of the year he wont be just the "overpaid bloke we got from Collingwood".... he'll be a favourite.
Jones will probably cop a bit of criticism but I thought he contested well and a couple of his efforts resulted in scores for us.
Is it enough? ...probably not!
But I'd give him another game on that effort.
It's not like we have anything better.
Shocking really, any remotely decent side would have hammered us.
The only things we can take from the game are the form of Thomas and that Kreuzer and Phillips are taking marks.
Jones and Casboult are the worst combination of tall forwards I've ever seen at the CFC, they make Setanta O'Hailpin look like Tony Lockett.
Good thing Kreuzer and Phillips are holding the marks because they could only break even with Leuenberger and Grimley for hit outs.
I have to disagree on the forwards, ok they're not great but they have nothing to work with. Slow ball movement, long bombs to nothing from the midfield and constantly working the ball down the boundary to the pocket isn't going to help any forward play well. But it's pretty sad that American rookie Mason Cox is a better kick at goal than Casboult, jones and Kreuzer
OK we won. A relief I guess and a win is a win.
BB will be busy next week that's for sure - plenty to work on.
Weitering apparently not too bad but we'll have to wait for more news on him.
Jones and Levi definitely not the answer for us up forward and we need to find alternatives as a major priority. After seeing them today I've just about given up hope on the pair of them.
Pleased that Daisy may be getting it back together and liked Phillips' efforts.
We won. We beat essendon. Nothing else really matters. Whhooooo!
Weitering apparently good for next week according to radio.
Yeah delighted with Daisy.. Gibbs is an assist machine not sure how many chances he created..but had a solid game too game high 10 clearances was massive. Puss Graham was a massive inclusion and had a good game too.
Don't think you can question work rate....we are crapbut there was no let off in effort that I saw
There are big questions on work rate. Very little link up play and running the ball to create overlap that exposes defensive zones and far too much bombing it long to no advantage. Nearly the whole match seemed to played in slow motion with no movement. The few times we took it on and carried the ball we looked infinitely better and exposed their lack of pace. But all too often we had no movement and resorted to kicking backwards.
We got lucky they weren't good enough to expose this. Once we start fronting up against the better teams again they will run us ragged just like Sydney and the Gold Coast did.
But for now let's just enjoy beating the bummers :)
The review tomorrow needs to concentrate on sharing the ball in front of goal. We were extremely selfish about 4 different times and didn't look for the obvious option.
I don't think it's selfishness. I just don't think our boys have confidence in being able to hit the target in a better position. You can see the thought tick over in their head about 3 or 4 times and by then it's too late.
.........long bombs to nothing from the midfield...........
There's nothing wrong with long bombs if you've got a couple of decent key forwards who can outbody and outplay their defenders.
Don't forget we played Essendon without any of their three key defenders from last season, Carlisle is gone but Hurley and Hooker would be walk up starts.
Casboult and Jones were beaten by VFL footballers.
The weitering incident looks ugly. Why was he one on two?
There's nothing wrong with long bombs if you've got a couple of decent key forwards who can outbody and outplay their defenders.
Don't forget we played Essendon without any of their three key defenders from last season, Carlisle is gone but Hurley and Hooker would be walk up starts.
Casboult and Jones were beaten by VFL footballers.
There is plenty wrong with kicking a high ball to the pocket that isn't to advantage and we're out numbered. We had more Mary's than the Vatican today.
A long penetrating kick to the right spot can be good but it isn't what we're doing. Most of our long kicks into the forward line are usually high floaters to nobody in particular and come at the end of slow ball movement that allows the opposition to push back in numbers and set up. Buddy Franklin wouldnt even kick goals in that situation.
Phillips was great today, he will become a good player for us for many games. Well done mate!
Thomas ditto. Finally coming good and becoming our everywhere man.
Simmo was a legend again.
Gibbs was well Ok but he still doesn't go in hard and still picks and chooses when to go.
There are big questions on work rate. Very little link up play and running the ball to create overlap that exposes defensive zones and far too much bombing it long to no advantage. Nearly the whole match seemed to played in slow motion with no movement. The few times we took it on and carried the ball we looked infinitely better and exposed their lack of pace. But all too often we had no movement and resorted to kicking backwards.
We got lucky they weren't good enough to expose this. Once we start fronting up against the better teams again they will run us ragged just like Sydney and the Gold Coast did.
But for now let's just enjoy beating the bummers :)
Disagree. That was lack of confidence rather than desire.
Very happy we won and the best thing from my perspective is the leadership group to a man all stood up when it mattered
There is plenty wrong with kicking a high ball to the pocket that isn't to advantage and we're out numbered. We had more Mary's than the Vatican today.
A long penetrating kick to the right spot can be good but it isn't what we're doing. Most of our long kicks into the forward line are usually high floaters to nobody in particular and come at the end of slow ball movement that allows the opposition to push back in numbers and set up. Buddy Franklin wouldnt even kick goals in that situation.
Either our forwards don't even try to make leads or our delivery is so bad, as you say, that it is impossible.
I watched Jones on one occasion when the ball was delivered straight to him at a comfortable marking height. He just waited for it, stationary, rather than attacking it. Result - no mark. :(
Buddy Franklin wouldnt even kick goals in that situation.
We'll agree to disagree Barbs.
Phillips was great today, he will become a good player for us for many games. Well done mate!
Thomas ditto. Finally coming good and becoming our everywhere man.
Simmo was a legend again.
Gibbs was well Ok but he still doesn't go in hard and still picks and chooses when to go.
Gibbs was up and about though BP. He had something like 32 possessions.
Is 28 Daniher? That was a pretty clumsy piece of play on Weitering, should be looked at.
Id make three changes
Out: weitering, casboult, sumner
In: Dick, Jaksch, DVR
The "older" players... in terms of length of time at the club started the season rather slowly.
Over the last two weeks they've started to work into the games a bit more.
That's a positive.
Is 28 Daniher? That was a pretty clumsy piece of play on Weitering, should be looked at.
28 is Mitch Brown. Daniher is 6.
Gee that Gibbs is a spud!
If only we had another two or three spuds with the same ability to read the game, get in the right spots, win hitouts and execute well.
Murphy stepped up when required and it was good to see the effort from White and Armfield. Thomas was good too, probably his best game in navy blue.
How good is it when your ruckmen and CHF take contested marks around the ground?
It wasn't pretty to watch but 5 goals in the last quarter could be a sign of things to come - and Weitering's injury isn't too serious :)
Daisy was very good today.
If he keeps going like that by the end of the year he wont be just the "overpaid bloke we got from Collingwood".... he'll be a favourite.
Jones will probably cop a bit of criticism but I thought he contested well and a couple of his efforts resulted in scores for us.
Is it enough? ...probably not!
But I'd give him another game on that effort.
It's not like we have anything better.
Jones I thought did enough to hold his spot. Chased, got involved and I think you can see his confidence growing
Caz has got to go.
I've been a staunch supporter of his but I just cannot put up with this shiit any more.
He has no presence. He doesn't crash packs, or lead or spill to our crumbers,barely chases........... and theres no point even mentioning his goal kicking cos it doesnt exist.
No-one to replace him. He took quite a few marks again playing up the ground. He's a nice "get out" coming out of defence. Ask the Gold Coast how many packs he crashed. A couple went off the ground that game not to return. Our forward structure could stop Peter Hudson in his tracks. It's Jones and Casboult for quite a while as there's no-one else. No point putting anyone else up forward, our structure is that bad it'd actually be unfair to them. If Jaksch comes in he'll replace Weitering due to injury. Probably be best leaving Jaksch in defence as playing him on our forward line would actually murder his development right now. He's the future so leave the one's who aren't, Jones and Casboult, on the forward line for now until it improves. I'd prefer Casboult as our 2nd ruck but our rucks did a good job today, especially Phillips.
Yeah cant believe the amount of crap Gibbs is getting on this forum.. pretty amazing...
Id make three changes
Out: weitering, casboult, sumner
In: Dick, Jaksch, DVR
It's good that you're not on the match committee Pinot ;) We want to beat Collingwood next week, not gift them the game by playing blokes who aren't yet up to AFL standard.
Id make three changes
Out: weitering, casboult, sumner
In: Dick, Jaksch, DVR
Sumner?
There's nothing wrong with long bombs if you've got a couple of decent key forwards who can outbody and outplay their defenders.
Don't forget we played Essendon without any of their three key defenders from last season, Carlisle is gone but Hurley and Hooker would be walk up starts.
Casboult and Jones were beaten by VFL footballers.
John Coleman would get beaten by VFL footballers with our forward structure
Sumner?
haven't made up my mind on Sumner yet - but 8-9 touches and a couple of tackles + goal every week is that enough?
I'd like to see what DVR brings to the table.
We'll agree to disagree Barbs.
Don't watch the game closely do you. What do you expect, the worst most movement and delivery in the comp and you expect key forwards to rack up goals from bombs surrounded by 4000 defenders. You must expect miracle workers to play key position forward for us.
haven't made up my mind on Sumner yet - but 8-9 touches and a couple of tackles + goal every week is that enough?
I'd like to see what DVR brings to the table.
Cripps will come in for someone next week. I think Jaksch will come in for the injured Weitering. That'll be about it for changes.
The weitering incident looks ugly. Why was he one on two?
From memory he might have contributed to the situation via an errant handpass prompting a chain of fumbles.
Good sign though - he was desperate to make amends and put his body on the line evoking memories of SOS.
What I'm livid about is how yet another Carlton player has been injured in a borderline act of aggression by someone from CheatsFC.
So you CAN slide in with your knees while a player is on the ground??? >:(
Yeah cant believe the amount of crap Gibbs is getting on this forum.. pretty amazing...
It reminds me of the way Collingwood morons used to criticise Buckley ::)
They'll just have to suck it up because he'll be running out in navy blue for at least another 5 or 6 years :)
From memory he might have contributed to the situation via an errant handpass prompting a chain of fumbles.
Good sign though - he was desperate to make amends and put his body on the line evoking memories of SOS.
What I'm livid about is how yet another Carlton player has been injured in a borderline act of aggression by someone from CheatsFC. So you CAN slide in with your knees while a player is on the ground??? >:(
Weitering actually made a great play to knock the ball on to Rowe before an Essendon player got onto it, but Rowe could not f0rken pick it up and just stared at it so Weitering had to go get it again and ended getting injured because of it. So frustrating a basic skill can't be executed because we still have VFL players running around and our best kid gets injured because of it.
Don't watch the game closely do you. What do you expect, the worst most movement and delivery in the comp and you expect key forwards to rack up goals from bombs surrounded by 4000 defenders. You must expect miracle workers to play key position forward for us.
+1 hundred billion on that
I think the irony is that when I see Jones and Casboult working the hardest its when they don't get the ball, but when they get the ball for either a set shot or quick snap they do fork it up quite badly.
Team selection against the pies will be interesting. If they go in with Cox, Moore and maybe Cloke we can't rely on Plowman and White to get the job done. Plowman is good but its a big ask to have him always give away that much height. He's a good match up for Howe though. Up forward, well there are problems lets face it. But are Everitt and Jaksch really better options than Jones right now? And what if Walker and Curnow are right to go?
Again, lets not lose sight of the fact it was a poor game - BUT WE BEAT THE BOMBERS!!!!! and I for one intend to stick it to some Essendon supporter friends tomorrow who haven't held back in recent years and even in the pre-season. It just goes to show, (drug) cheats never prosper :)
Armfield, Docherty, Byrne, Wright, Curnow, these guys are grunt players, and they all did well today.
We lacked speed today, hopefully Boekhurst gets back in.
No forwards, but we kicked enough. Once the wind died, things got better.
Crap game to watch though until the 4th.
go baggers
I was driving home from a weekend market listening to the game via the app on my phone, got out of the car 10-mins into the last. It all sounded like a complete borefest with plenty of fumbles and mega-low scoring.
Got to watch the match from late in the third due to some weird delayed telecast on 7Mate and didn't change my opinion whilst watching.
During this time, I didn't like what I saw from Casboult whilst Jones, Graham & Lamb annoyed me at times plus seeing Weitering with his arm in a sling pissed me right off.
Plowman is such a smart player, extremely dependable and miserly, Thomas looked like a new man, Murphy was inspiring and the two rucks (Kreuzer & Phillips) really wanted to be part of a winning team.
The one thing that really stood out to me was that all of the team were playing for each other, they are a 'team' now in the truest sense of the word. Bolton's hard work is not going unnoticed.
Hard to believe that we are in 14th slot on the ladder but I'll enjoy it whilst it lasts.
Very painful game to watch at the ground. Plowman has a bit of the Andrew Mackies about him looks composed etc. Philips is looking better each week and clunking marks and one that looks promising, while Kreuzer stlll jumps at the ball like when he was 18 and still doesn't know how to use his body.
Id make three changes
Out: weitering, casboult, sumner
In: Dick, Jaksch, DVR
Has to be Cripps and Curnow for starters.
Loved Byrnes game today. He takes it on and had no fear AND he hits targets.
Jones I thought did enough to hold his spot. Chased, got involved and I think you can see his confidence growing
Agree, didnt do much in the air but was handy at ground level and got a few handpasses away...
Jaksch might come in for Weitering but he wont replace Jones at FF...
Sumner?
I think Sumner has been ok and has got both Buckley and Boekhorst covered ..bit more robust than the other two, better contested mark and bobs up with the
odd goal...no reason to drop him IMO and he has been value in the 4 for 1 deal which was essentially about Plowman..
Agree, didnt do much in the air but was handy at ground level and got a few handpasses away...
Jaksch might come in for Weitering but he wont replace Jones at FF...
I was impressed with the speed and aggression that Jones used when he chased. I have never seen anything like that from him before this year. He really put some good pressure on.
On the other hand, I didn't see him leading much. But when we got the about the 50 m line, we forgot everything that got the ball there in the first place!
Casboult took some nice marks, but ..... I don't want to write it.
Aside from what happened in the forward 50, we controlled the game pretty well. Poor kicking in the 2nd qtr meant a 2 goal lead instead of a 5-6 goal lead.
Defensively we seem to set up well, just miles ahead of some of the rubbish we dished up last year. Plowman looks very solid and composed, Byrne backed up last week and looks the goods.
We might have found a decent ruckman in Phillips... has plenty to go, but he took some ripping marks today and slotted one from 50. The GWS connection had a good day today.
Loved Byrnes game today. He takes it on and had no fear AND he hits targets.
Yes, had the ball on a string early. A good 4 qtr effort for a 4 gamer.
Nick Graham....like to know what others thought of his game today...I wasnt that impressed even though he won a bit of the ball I thought he looked slow and doesnt get much value from his disposals. contests ok but there is something missing in his game IMO.
You can be slow and think quick ie Mitchell, Diesel but NG thinks too slow IMO and I have doubts about his future as we move forward....
Phillips' goal in the last was a beauty under pressure. He has a year or two to mature and he'll be very good.
I think Sumner has been ok and has got both Buckley and Boekhorst covered ..bit more robust than the other two, better contested mark and bobs up with the
odd goal...no reason to drop him IMO and he has been value in the 4 for 1 deal which was essentially about Plowman..
While neither Sumner nor Lamb had big days today, they some very nice things and I liked the way they but on pressure in the forward line. While both Buckley and Boekhorst have their positives, neither tends to be as physical , as Elwood noted above.
What we really need is an Eddie Betts type of player who can make a goal out of nothing and who can read the pack well enough to get crumbing goals. Neither Sumner nor Lamb have done much of that yet, but we don't have anyone to fill that role.
We REALLY need a small forward who can kick the impossible goals: it gives our forward line so much more potential.
Nick Graham....like to know what others thought of his game today...I wasnt that impressed even though he won a bit of the ball I thought he looked slow and doesnt get much value from his disposals. contests ok but there is something missing in his game IMO.
You can be slow and think quick ie Mitchell, Diesel but NG thinks too slow IMO and I have doubts about his future as we move forward....
I wasnt overly impressed with him either, I'd give him a 5/10, was very bad early but improved as the game went on. Too slow for mine, can come in and fill a gap but thats about it. Still reckon he is a VFL player at best. Has time on his hands so who knows.
I was impressed with the speed and aggression that Jones used when he chased. I have never seen anything like that from him before this year. He really put some good pressure on.
On the other hand, I didn't see him leading much. But when we got the about the 50 m line, we forgot everything that got the ball there in the first place!
Casboult took some nice marks, but ..... I don't want to write it.
I think Casboult provided the only lead for the day, and it was honoured! Our delivery inside 50 is still a work in progress.
I never thought Jones would play again at AFL level but I think he has earned his spot for another week and will keep it as long as he continues to present and chase hard. Slotting a goal or two won't go astray.
Interestingly, Casboult's field kicking is pretty good as is his goal kicking at training. If I was his goal kicking coach, I would insist that he keeps his mouthguard in when he lines up for a shot at goal.
Phillips' goal in the last was a beauty under pressure. He has a year or two to mature and he'll be very good.
I liked what I saw of him at GWS and was pretty happy when we got him. I think he will eventually overtake Kreuzer. Not sure what that would mean for Kreuzer though cos he isn't a forward but we won't play him in the VFL..
Liked BBs comment that we have the ability to make the simple look difficult! Pretty much sums up so much of how we're going at present.
Nick Graham....like to know what others thought of his game today...I wasnt that impressed even though he won a bit of the ball I thought he looked slow and doesnt get much value from his disposals. contests ok but there is something missing in his game IMO.
You can be slow and think quick ie Mitchell, Diesel but NG thinks too slow IMO and I have doubts about his future as we move forward....
I actually thought it was one of his better games for the year, definitely had more impact than other weeks.
But he needs to do more.
Nick Graham....like to know what others thought of his game today...I wasnt that impressed even though he won a bit of the ball I thought he looked slow and doesnt get much value from his disposals. contests ok but there is something missing in his game IMO.
You can be slow and think quick ie Mitchell, Diesel but NG thinks too slow IMO and I have doubts about his future as we move forward....
Got some more space in the last quarter which was his best. The goal he missed in the third was an absolute shocker. Overall doesn't do enough to impact the game and I suspect will be dropped for Cripps.
I actually thought it was one of his better games for the year, definitely had more impact than other weeks.
But he needs to do more.
I though Graham was pretty good today. If there's an area where he needs to improve, it's his response to be tackled. He's not greased lightning and should be anticipating being tackled every time he gets the ball. He needs to work on keeping his arms free so that he can fire off a handpass when tackled.
On the other side of the coin, his tackling is effective.
I don't care much for bagging a winning team, especially given we know exactly where we're headed, and that we're only on first base.
I enjoyed:
- Byrne managing solid back to back performances.
- Daisy, likewise. Not only dangerous around goals, but great around the ground. He finally looks fit and gaining confidence in his body (@80% at one point)
- Seniors stood up for a second week. Murphy - topped off with another captain's goal. Gibbs - just solid, dug in with 10 clearances and no Cripps.
- Wright, nice. Notched up a couple for number 100. Congratulations.
- Plow and Phillips look to be core part of new Carlton.
In all, remained competitive for 4 quqrters again (remember that was team focus just a couple of weeks ago - big tick). Had a couple of patches of really flowing play where we made good decisions AND hit targets.
No matter how ugly it gets, winners are grinners. Enjoy the bragging rights Bluebaggers.
Not sold on Graham. He tackled hard and did the in an under stuff but he has the Benticks about him when he has the ball in hand. Some real lazy disposals from him and his shot on goal was laughable.
I was at the game and I have to say that second quarter was inexcusably horrible. So bad it needed a laugh track. Even when we had half decent ball movement we saw the big stick and completely lost our crap.
Jones second and third efforts were very good. Especially his chasing. I just wish he had a clue when leading out, though as pointed out, there was very little lace our footy today.
Thomas was fantastic. Gibbs is an outside player, but was instrumental in setting up play for us. Simmo was the general. Plowman did a great job given he'd lost his wingman in Weiters. Rowe was serviceable on Daniher, but my God does he stuff things up at ground level. Sumner and Lamb did their bit. Phillips finally showed something, was astonished by the goal. Wright not bad but should have kicked three. Kerridge had an excellent third term but like Murphy was in and out of the game. Curnow was very good.
Overall I'll take the four points. And the last quarter we stood up when were challenged. It will be interesting to contrast this game to Round 23 to see if we've swallowed BB's message.
And my five year old got to sing the song. So there's that.
Where is the vote thread, get it up now before I find a reason not to give Daisy BOG!
You know, the spud has-been can't run, can't kick, can't get the ball!
If only we had he and McLean, two footballers in one team FFS!
Happy to see another win for the season. Still some work to go with Bolton and his coaching group. While there are things to like, there are many things to improve on. ;)
Happy to see another win for the season. Still some work to go with Bolton and his coaching group. While there are things to like, there are many things to improve on. ;)
Very nice to see you again Mantis. Hope all is well.
haven't made up my mind on Sumner yet - but 8-9 touches and a couple of tackles + goal every week is that enough?
I'd like to see what DVR brings to the table.
Sumner was very average apart from a handy goal, hardly got involved in the game at all.
I agree about DVR, he's getting plenty of it in the VFL so we might as well see what he's got to offer, by all accounts he can actually kick the ball as well so he's ahead of a few of them.
Very nice to see you again Mantis. Hope all is well.
All is well buddy. Going through a seperation and missing the kids heaps but happy to be out of the life I was in. Hence why I have been quite this year. Watched the game today and have concerns about our poor kicking for goal which has been a problem for years. I'm sure Bolton knows what he needs to do to address all our issues. Watched him completely spit the dummy in the box a few times during the game. Welcome to building a new team Bolts. ;)
I wish I had been at "The G" today, I could have gone all Bruce Lee on those Cheating Scum supporters as they left the great Colosseum!
I might have been watching a bit too much SBS 2 this weekend! :o
All is well buddy. Going through a seperation and missing the kids heaps but happy to be out of the life I was in. Hence why I have been quite this year. Watched the game today and have concerns about our poor kicking for goal which has been a problem for years. I'm sure Bolton knows what he needs to do to address all our issues. Watched him completely spit the dummy in the box a few times during the game. Welcome to building a new team Bolts. ;)
Oh, yukko. Sorry to hear that matey. Hopefully this is for the best, and hopefully we'll see you around here more often.
Chin up buddy.
I wish I had been at "The G" today, I could have gone all Bruce Lee on those Cheating Scum supporters as they left the great Colosseum!
I might have been watching a bit too much SBS 2 this weekend! :o
lmfao
All is well buddy. Going through a seperation and missing the kids heaps but happy to be out of the life I was in. Hence why I have been quite this year. Watched the game today and have concerns about our poor kicking for goal which has been a problem for years. I'm sure Bolton knows what he needs to do to address all our issues. Watched him completely spit the dummy in the box a few times during the game. Welcome to building a new team Bolts. ;)
Sorry to hear that Mantis :( I hope things work out and your footy team does its part by winning more games.
I liked what I saw of him at GWS and was pretty happy when we got him. I think he will eventually overtake Kreuzer. Not sure what that would mean for Kreuzer though cos he isn't a forward but we won't play him in the VFL..
Speaking of Kreuzer, did he cope a poke in the eye(s) late? After the game, his eyes looked almost closed as if someone was shining a spotlight in his face.
Yay!
Mantis is back!!
Speaking of Kreuzer, did he cope a poke in the eye(s) late? After the game, his eyes looked almost closed as if someone was shining a spotlight in his face.
I think that he got the poke in the eye fairly early, second quarter perhaps. It was when he was paid a mark and/or free on the 50m line. He was rubbing his left eye as he went back to take the kick.
Sorry to hear that Mantis :( I hope things work out and your footy team does its part by winning more games.
Ditto. I would not want to wish anyone a breakup. I hope the Blues can give you some joy.
Jones second and third efforts were very good.
Those who are calling for Jaksch won't see this in his game at the moment.
So good to beat the bummers, regardless of their dismal state. The crowd wasnt too bad all things considered. It was awfully cold up on level 4 of the olympic stand.
Thomas played his best game for the blues, a real 4 quarter effort. Gibbs too kept going, and added a bit of class with his snap goal. Murphy' goal in the last was a blessed relief after the howlers of the previous two quarters. Our goal kicking can't get worse...
Some players that stood out included phillips who is moving around the ground well, taking a few marks and was rewarded with a fine goal at the end. He is doing the more conventional ruck role in getting to space, wheras Kruezer tends to get involved in contests with mixed results. Phillips is very promising.
Simpson played a fine game, and was nice to see byrne play well, overcoming the curse of a herald sun feature article. Some tidy bits of play.
Our forwards are battling perhaps with a style of play that requires much coordination and teamwork. Pressing up, then getting back and making good position is proving challenging, and we are not very good at it. Bad kicking is no excuse however, but until we have alternatives, Casboult and jones will have to do.
Bring on the pies!
All is well buddy. Going through a seperation and missing the kids heaps but happy to be out of the life I was in. Hence why I have been quite this year. Watched the game today and have concerns about our poor kicking for goal which has been a problem for years. I'm sure Bolton knows what he needs to do to address all our issues. Watched him completely spit the dummy in the box a few times during the game. Welcome to building a new team Bolts. ;)
Welcome back Mants and hope your home life works out and we see more of you on the forum....I saw anger from BB in the box and it was good anger..
All is well buddy. Going through a seperation and missing the kids heaps but happy to be out of the life I was in. Hence why I have been quite this year. Watched the game today and have concerns about our poor kicking for goal which has been a problem for years. I'm sure Bolton knows what he needs to do to address all our issues. Watched him completely spit the dummy in the box a few times during the game. Welcome to building a new team Bolts. ;)
Hang in there mate...only way is up ;)
Going through a seperation and missing the kids heaps but happy to be out of the life I was in.
Nice to read you are in a better position now Mantis.
Everyone goes through some ugly crap at some stage in their life, it's how you deal with it and where you end up that is important.
Nice to read you are in a better position now Mantis.
Everyone goes through some ugly crap at some stage in their life, it's how you deal with it and where you end up that is important.
Nice post Sheik.
This is the post game thread isn't it or did I read the title incorrectly.....?
This is the post game thread isn't it or did I read the title incorrectly.....?
Yep, wasn't much to talk about but it was a win!
Phillips best game so far, what do you think?
Jones second and third efforts were very good. Especially his chasing. I just wish he had a clue when leading out, though as pointed out, there was very little lace our footy today.
Particularly hard to hit someone on the chest when he never presents it. Half the problem we're having moving the ball forward is our forwards don't present. Jones is the main culprit - leads half hearted into an area of congestion or asks for it to be kicked over the top which would require a 65m kick or changes direction just as the player is about to kick.
Literally zero idea how to play as a forward.
Then we get to using your body. He seems absolutely surprised every time someone bumps him as the ball is arriving. He doesn't know how to hold your opponent off the drop zone and then take the mark. He simply stands under the ball and tries to jump up. Slight bump and he's gone.
If you think I'm being harsh - consider this - not once in his 11 games with Carlton has he accumulated double digits disposals.
Bolton summed up our game pretty well, "We make the easy look hard."
He also said that it was our most polished performance and I think he's right there. His praise of Murphy, Gibbs, Thomas and Simpson was spot on. His comment before the game, "Our system is more important than just Patrick Cripps" reinforces my belief that my club is in the right hands.
Leigh Matthews made an interesting comment about Bolton; "People would like to be coached by him." Perhaps that's the trigger that will see players wanting to come to Carlton.
Considering our Clearance beast was out, our Rising star went down injured (in a courageous 2-1 effort to prevent a goal), and we have our share of injuries. I was encouraged that 9 players registered majors and that didn't include our big Levi. Had we got some of the "gettable" misses (? effect of winds), and we don't look nearly as bad as a year ago.
Just maybe Bolts is building some resilience into our list - no mean feat IMO :))
Go Blues
Considering our Clearance beast was out, our Rising star went down injured (in a courageous 2-1 effort to prevent a goal), and we have our share of injuries. I was encouraged that 9 players registered majors and that didn't include our big Levi. Had we got some of the "gettable" misses (? effect of winds), and we don't look nearly as bad as a year ago.
Just maybe Bolts is building some resilience into our list - no mean feat IMO :))
Go Blues
Yes LN, Bolts is busy this year laying the solid foundations on which we can build our future. I'm very excited about it so far. ^-^
Considering our Clearance beast was out, our Rising star went down injured (in a courageous 2-1 effort to prevent a goal), and we have our share of injuries. I was encouraged that 9 players registered majors and that didn't include our big Levi. Had we got some of the "gettable" misses (? effect of winds), and we don't look nearly as bad as a year ago.
Just maybe Bolts is building some resilience into our list - no mean feat IMO :))
Go Blues
I reckon he will trade out Casboult at seasons end. An incredible contested mark who cannot convert is a liability.
Just maybe Bolts is building some resilience into our list - no mean feat IMO :))
I don't think it's all that difficult if you know what you're doing.
Despite people bleating about how bad our list is, it's really not that bad. The challenge is to turn around bad habits and get them to execute a competitive gameplan. I think that Bolton excels in teaching footballers how to be their best by working together and we're just starting to see the benefits of his approach. One thing that's really struck me this season is how we've really worked hard at trying to follow Bolton's gameplan. The execution may be lacking at times but the endeavour hasn't dropped off, no matter what the score is.
Bolts has exposed Malthouse as a fool. Passed his use by date.
I think our forward issues are due to the team defence, as everyone is so busy running back to plug gaps when we have the ball in possession 1 out of 2 times are forwards are running towards goals themselves. I think once this is worked out we will look much better and kick more goals.
Contested marks and conversion in our forward 50 a major concern.
We get the ball in our forward 50 a lot and in good one on one positions and having a lot of shots on goals and lots of on the fulls.
We get the ball in our forward 50 a lot and in good one on one positions and having a lot of shots on goals and lots of on the fulls.
We didn't slice them up as we should have inside F50. too often we bombed it in instead of lowering the eyes and picking a leading target.
We didn't slice them up as we should have inside F50. too often we bombed it in instead of lowering the eyes and picking a leading target.
I think we did this sometimes, just didn't kick to advantage. Noticed this at least twice with Kruezer who isn't the quickest out there and really shouldn't be playing forward
What gets me with our forward line is that yesterday, the amount of time that Jones, Boult and Kruezer went up for the same ball. It did my head. They virtually all spoilled each other. Any chance that htey can lead in different directions to open up the forward line a bit. Bloody. Schoolbiy stuff at times.
What gets me with our forward line is that yesterday, the amount of time that Jones, Boult and Kruezer went up for the same ball. It did my head. They virtually all spoilled each other. Any chance that htey can lead in different directions to open up the forward line a bit. Bloody. Schoolbiy stuff at times.
^ this
Aside from what happened in the forward 50, we controlled the game pretty well. Poor kicking in the 2nd qtr meant a 2 goal lead instead of a 5-6 goal lead.
Defensively we seem to set up well, just miles ahead of some of the rubbish we dished up last year. Plowman looks very solid and composed, Byrne backed up last week and looks the goods.
We might have found a decent ruckman in Phillips... has plenty to go, but he took some ripping marks today and slotted one from 50. The GWS connection had a good day today.
Haven't seen the game yet but listened to a lot of it.....reckon if we'd taken the chances in Q2, EFC would have dropped the bundle and we would have won by 50 odd.
We'll learn from it.
Sounds like Gibbs, Thomas, Murph, Phillips were stand outs?
Any updates on young Weitering?
Cripps in next week or not?
Haven't seen the game yet but listened to a lot of it.....reckon if we'd taken the chances in Q2, EFC would have dropped the bundle and we would have won by 50 odd.
We'll learn from it.
Sounds like Gibbs, Thomas, Murph, Phillips were stand outs?
Any updates on young Weitering?
Cripps in next week or not?
I wouldn't say Phillips was a stand out, although his goal was outstanding. He only had 60% game time but took some nice marks, as did Kreuzer.
It was a fairly even performance, with everyone playing a part. My best players were Gibbs, Thomas, Murphy, Curnow, Simpson and Docherty. Rowe was solid, Byrne continued on from last week, Kerridge had an impact, Armfield worked his butt off, White did his job, Casboult marked everything but kicked poorly (field kicking was good), Jones tried hard but we made damn hard work of it. Of course, there's nothing wrong with winning ugly :)
Looking at the votes surprised at the lack thereof for Kerridge. Can't see how he wasn't in the top 6.
Perhaps everyone has just set the bar higher for him which is a testament to his year to date, I would dare say he has been our most consistent contributor over the 6 week period (plus preseason).
Super value trade Kerridge and 28 for Menzel. Menzel just didnt do enough and with such a lack of pace the ball came out of our forward line even quicker then it does currently!
Thomas and Gibbs probably best 2 on the ground.
Plowman progressing well, I would like to see him start becoming a bit more offensive as he gets used to playing in the 1s.
Sumner and Lamb do some great things when they get the ball, but both just don't get enough of it. Don't think we can carry both of them in the one team unless they start finding more pill.
Aside from what happened in the forward 50, we controlled the game pretty well. Poor kicking in the 2nd qtr meant a 2 goal lead instead of a 5-6 goal lead.
Defensively we seem to set up well, just miles ahead of some of the rubbish we dished up last year. Plowman looks very solid and composed, Byrne backed up last week and looks the goods.
We might have found a decent ruckman in Phillips... has plenty to go, but he took some ripping marks today and slotted one from 50. The GWS connection had a good day today.
And a great tackle on Fantasia to prevent a certain goal in the last 1/4.
I wouldn't say Phillips was a stand out, although his goal was outstanding. He only had 60% game time but took some nice marks, as did Kreuzer.
We had to watch Warnock and Hampson for several years, we just get excited when a ruckman takes a mark. And can kick.
Phillips' 2nd half was outstanding.
Byrnes' 1st quarter was outstanding
Gibbs' & Murph's last quarters were oustanding. That's now 3 excellent Murphy performances this year for 2 wins & 1 near miss.
Daisy's game was outstanding.......he's now been our best player in 2 of the 5 games he's played this year & kicked 3 goals in another......maybe, just maybe we're now seeing the player we hoped we were getting when Mick tapped him on the shoulder.
Kreuzer's kicking for goal is every bit as bad as Casboult's.
Credit where credit's due, Sam Rowe, despite the occasional coach-killing error, is actually having a reasonable season.
I like Plowman & Liam Sumner is fast growing on me.....
And finally.....it was the worst standard game in every aspect (as in both teams) I've ever attended.
As I read at the end of an article on the game last night: Let us never speak of this game again.....
Watched the game live and while wasnt much in it on the scoreboard we were the better team all day and I never thought we were going to lose it. Something i never felt when watching the same sort of game with MM in charge.
Defence is settled and looks structured and when you consider Byrne, Plowman, Weitering have only played a handful of games together I am very confident of our future down back.
Kreuzer -While not close to his best, the big man is a battering ram that within our midfield group we don't have a single player that does this sort of work. Don't underestimate what he brings to us, even though his kicking and general play is not his best. We need him in to allow the mids some protection and to make other mids look up when the tractor is storming through. Liked his game.
Docherty - Smart skilled determined footballer. Watch the last quarter 5 mins to go Dons are attacking and have a few man in F50. Docs man marked in the centre square but as he can see the play unfolding leaves his man and sprint to spoil an easy mark and shot at goal to get them within 3 points. That was the match right there. I was sitting right above him and he sprinted with everything he had. Not much was said about it but everyone in the crowd saw what I did.
Bryne - How composed and confident is this guy. Im relaxed when he has the ball. His decision making is spot on. Loves how he marks under pressure when he know he can instead of jumping automatically punching. Weitering also has that quality which is one only composed defenders have. Very happy with this lad.
Jones - Lazy footballer or footballer without a tank. Its one or the other. Second half he refused to run to space but prefers to just point to where there's space and because he doesn't move there rarely gets the ball kicked to where he points. As a result he is constantly contested with either Casboult, Kreuzer in the same contest etc. Dumb, lazy or not fit enough. Take your pick.
Murphy, Gibbs and Curnow: - Played like leaders should. Well done.
Daisy: Seems to be running very well while his kicking doesn't have the penetration it once did he decision making and execution was first rate. Work rate and 1 percenters have always been there but great to finally see his skill set on show. His first goal was an example of how confident he is about his ability. Didn't bother looking inboard, he knew he could slot it and did. First class.
Sure skills were down but wind was swirling everywhere - We took the points against a team we all hate without Crippa and weitering off. Didn't need Walker, Everett, Jamo either to name a few that were considered regulars.
Im happy with how we are tracking.
Pies next........
What gets me with our forward line is that yesterday, the amount of time that Jones, Boult and Kruezer went up for the same ball. It did my head. They virtually all spoilled each other. Any chance that htey can lead in different directions to open up the forward line a bit. Bloody. Schoolbiy stuff at times.
Agree!!!
Jones is the worst offender.
What gets me with our forward line is that yesterday, the amount of time that Jones, Boult and Kruezer went up for the same ball. It did my head. They virtually all spoilled each other. Any chance that htey can lead in different directions to open up the forward line a bit. Bloody. Schoolbiy stuff at times.
And on top that very good point..... whereby players would line up for a set shot....clearly outside their comfortable range & instead of lobbing a chaos ball to just in front of the goalsquare, they’d selfishly have a shot & predictably shank the kick trying to get the extra distance. That did my head in.....
Phillips' 2nd half was outstanding.
Byrnes' 1st quarter was outstanding
Gibbs' & Murph's last quarters were oustanding. That's now 3 excellent Murphy performances this year for 2 wins & 1 near miss.
Daisy's game was outstanding.......he's now been our best player in 2 of the 5 games he's played this year & kicked 3 goals in another......maybe, just maybe we're now seeing the player we hoped we were getting when Mick tapped him on the shoulder.
Kreuzer's kicking for goal is every bit as bad as Casboult's.
Credit where credit's due, Sam Rowe, despite the occasional coach-killing error, is actually having a reasonable season.
I like Plowman & Liam Sumner is fast growing on me.....
And finally.....it was the worst standard game in every aspect (as in both teams) I've ever attended.
As I read at the end of an article on the game last night: Let us never speak of this game again.....
Really? I know he missed a 40-45m set shot in horrible conditions, but Casboult missed everything from a similar distance and angle! Kreuzer might get the ball off-line left or right, but Casboult misses at right angles! I'd put Kreuzer and Jones in a similar accuracy and Casboult a level or two below that.
Having said that, I heard again from a mate Casboult hardly missed in the warm up, and commentators repeated that he seems to kick them at training and during the warm up so what is going on in his head!
What's going on with Kerridge, he came to us as goal kicker but doesn't seem to want to get hold of a shot at the moment?
Luckily Wright and Murphy are reliable, I think we need to generate a few more goals through blokes like them, Sumner and Lamb.
Wasn't that impressed with Lamb yesterday, on TV it looked like he failed to compete a couple of times, unforgivable but I'll reserve judgment until I can read an eyewitness report. At AFL level competing is not optional, the minute opposition see you hesitate to compete you are cooked, they will construct that scenario around you time after time. But then again, Betts was like this for the first few years of his career, and look at him now!
Good to see Daisy finally start putting few good games together.
20+ touches and 3 goals last week... 30+ touches and a goal this week...
Finally got his body right and we re starting to see a bit of return for our big investment.
A player who wasn't really spoken about much pre season when talking about our young kids coming through, was Casey Byrne. Have been mighty impressed by his attack on the footy and dash out of defense the last few weeks. Reckon this kid has the potential to be something very special. Look forward to the day Ciaran Sheehan plays alongside Casey and Zach 2E... Would it be some sort of record to have 3 Irishman in the same senior AFL side at the same time ?
Bolts seems to have transformed our defense overnight, with young guns in Weiters, Mr Plow and Casey all showing us what we can look forward to down there for the next 10 years.
Good to see Daisy finally start putting few good games together.
20+ touches and 3 goals last week... 30+ touches and a goal this week...
Finally got his body right and we re starting to see a bit of return for our big investment.
A player who wasn't really spoken about much pre season when talking about our young kids coming through, was Casey Byrne. Have been mighty impressed by his attack on the footy and dash out of defense the last few weeks. Reckon this kid has the potential to be something very special.
Can't wait for him to get his sea legs.
His natural instinct is to run. Watch him, he want to run all the time but he's being very team oriented .
It will happen though, he's just got to get the balance right.
Look out after about 35 games.
We had to watch Warnock and Hampson for several years, we just get excited when a ruckman takes a mark. And can kick.
X 2 :)
Can't wait for him to get his sea legs.
His natural instinct is to run. Watch him, he want to run all the time but he's being very team oriented .
It will happen though, he's just got to get the balance right.
Look out after about 35 games.
It'd be nice if Tuohy follows suit with Byrne and they both start pushing hard into the attacking zones. Then if Sheehan comes in we could end up with three really significant running HBFs. Sheehan's ball use is a class above the other two if he can get himself fit.
Byrne with some experience looks a likely option to give Cripps a chop out. Byrne is certainly cool and calm in traffic, is good at ground level and strong overhead. Has a lot more pace than Crippa as well! ;)
Can't wait for him to get his sea legs.
His natural instinct is to run. Watch him, he want to run all the time but he's being very team oriented .
It will happen though, he's just got to get the balance right.
Look out after about 35 games.
x2. He just looks a little unconventional the way he moves and those high socks make him look less like a 'conventional' modern footballer ;D
But who cares the guy is composed and cool under any sort of pressure. Big call but this kid will be beside Doc and Weiters for the next 10 years IMO.
Hasn't even played 10 games!
Must say, isn't a pleasure to hear and read generally positive stuff about the Blues, 6 games into a season! All the more pleasurable, when you think of the contrast with Filthmond. We are doing everything we realistically hoped to - they are doing everything they delusionally thought they wouldn't. Great stuff!
with all those forward entries, imagine if we had waite and betts
with all those forward entries, imagine if we had waite and betts
The irony is if we made better decisions we probably didn't need them. We must have burned four or five easy goals yesterday by not doing the right thing at the right time, taking pot shots rather than creating goals for team-mates, and failing to take the game on(hesitating). We are creating opportunities, we just need to be better at using them.
The irony is if we made better decisions we probably didn't need them. We must have burned four or five easy goals yesterday by not doing the right thing at the right time, taking pot shots rather than creating goals for team-mates, and failing to take the game on(hesitating). We are creating opportunities, we just need to be better at using them.
Dead right. Those missed opportunities, especially the really easy ones, can be very energy sapping but at least we didn't let that happen and fold up as we may have done in past years.
Absolutely we ve got all we'd hoped for. Its amazing how much better things are as a supporter when you've got a Coach who has conveyed clearly to both players and supporters the direction the Club is taking.
Absolutely we ve got all we'd hoped for. Its amazing how much better things are as a supporter when you've got a Coach who has conveyed clearly to both players and supporters the direction the Club is taking.
Yes, we are now on a realistic trajectory not a delusional one.
Does anyone else have to look at who is wearing long socks to distinguish between kerridge and byrne ?
Gee they're hard to tell apart on tv...............when you cant see there numbers.
Does anyone else have to look at who is wearing long socks to distinguish between kerridge and byrne ?
Gee they're hard to tell apart on tv...............when you cant see there numbers.
Yep. Same build, posture, hair.
Yep. Same build, posture, hair.
When you get a bit closer Kerridge is easier to tell.
He's got that sleezy German ski instructor look happening.
On other non important issues, did anyone else at the game note the playing of the song "true blue" at the start of the third quarter? I reckon they may be giving it a run for the start of games ala port Adelaide.
I like the song but not sure it will resonate with the Carlton horde. Good on me for giving it a go as it pretty much fits perfect
When you get a bit closer Kerridge is easier to tell.
He's got that sleezy German ski instructor look happening.
Thank you CIMM ???? That had me laughing out loud on the train. Was it you, way back when, who compared Bell as having a head like a German Cinema Villain? Gee I laughed at that one.
When you get a bit closer Kerridge is easier to tell.
He's got that sleezy German ski instructor look happening.
Spends too much time out on the piste?
Thank you CIMM ???? That had me laughing out loud on the train. Was it you, way back when, who compared Bell as having a head like a German Cinema Villain? Gee I laughed at that one.
Don't think I can take credit for the villain. That's a ripper.
I can see what he means though.
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Carlton/Player%20Profiles/2015%20-%20Profiles/BELL%20Tom.png)
Been away all weekend.. read 4 pages.... Had to re-Check the score to show that we actually WON. There are some real sad sacks around the place.
We were expected to finish last this year from all and sundry. People suggested that we might lose to the Bombers twice.
I called at the start of the year we would win more games than last year, and so far well on track.
Sure it's ugly, but winning breeds good habits, confidence and unites the group. We are HARD to score against. WE Compete. WE have Structure.
ENJOY the bloody wins, because we wont have to many.
Carlton and Essendon supporters were united in laughter at the comedy act that took place on Sunday, the game was an embarrassment to the sport.
Been away all weekend.. read 4 pages.... Had to re-Check the score to show that we actually WON. There are some real sad sacks around the place.
We were expected to finish last this year from all and sundry. People suggested that we might lose to the Bombers twice.
I called at the start of the year we would win more games than last year, and so far well on track.
Sure it's ugly, but winning breeds good habits, confidence and unites the group. We are HARD to score against. WE Compete. WE have Structure.
ENJOY the bloody wins, because we wont have to many.
Yes, winning breeds confidence and I'm a believer in the theory that if you keep winning, no matter how ugly it may look, you will eventually improve and win prettier.
Constantly losing, no matter how well you may have played, will undermine team morale and confidence eventually.
Our two wins are absolute GOLD atm.
Been away all weekend.. read 4 pages.... Had to re-Check the score to show that we actually WON. There are some real sad sacks around the place.
We were expected to finish last this year from all and sundry. People suggested that we might lose to the Bombers twice.
I called at the start of the year we would win more games than last year, and so far well on track.
Sure it's ugly, but winning breeds good habits, confidence and unites the group. We are HARD to score against. WE Compete. WE have Structure.
ENJOY the bloody wins, because we wont have to many.
I have got us down to win at least six games this season and we're one ahead now :)
There has been a huge improvement in our defence and we just need to forward line to function as well!
AFLCA Votes Rnd 6.
CARLTON v ESSENDON
9 Bryce Gibbs (Carl)
9 Dale Thomas (Carl)
5 Adam Cooney (Ess)
3 Kade Simpson (Carl)
2 Ed Curnow (Carl)
2 Courtenay Dempsey (Ess)
That's Gibbs equal top two weeks running, yet apparently many think we need to get rid of him while he still has some value! Frightening, that people think you can pick a replacement like buying a packet of smokes! :o
AFLCA Votes Rnd 6.
CARLTON v ESSENDON
9 Bryce Gibbs (Carl)
9 Dale Thomas (Carl)
5 Adam Cooney (Ess)
3 Kade Simpson (Carl)
2 Ed Curnow (Carl)
2 Courtenay Dempsey (Ess)
That's Gibbs equal top two weeks running, yet apparently many think we need to get rid of him while he still has some value! Frightening, that people think you can pick a replacement like buying a packet of smokes! :o
Against Freo and Essendon ::). If he gets 10 against North or Hawks then I might change my mind. For now, he's the best trade bait we have.
Carlton and Essendon supporters were united in laughter at the comedy act that took place on Sunday, the game was an embarrassment to the sport.
You're right I'd prefer to go back to the wallopings of last year, they were far less embarrassing ::)
You're right I'd prefer to go back to the wallopings of last year, they were far less embarrassing ::)
We have been walloped this year.
It wasn't that long ago that our skills were decidedly above average.
Between the Paleolithic and the Mesolithic.
You're right I'd prefer to go back to the wallopings of last year, they were far less embarrassing ::)
I'm with you Jeffy. Give me an ugly win over a good looking loss any day.
Watched Chris Scott last night saying early in the season 2001 despite the media talking the Loins chances up as big flag chances they didn't have the internal belief. He said that all changed in only one game when they beat the bombers mid year. He said from that game we walked off the ground knowing what we were capable of. The went on to win the next 3 in row!
Wins are very very important to self belief - Maybe even more so to a developing list.
I actually thought the freo game was worse. Some of the field kicking was excellent on Sunday given the strength of the wind.
Gibbs set shot 40 out straight in front didn't make the distance as a guide.
Contested possession domination was also really good.
If we could get Walker and Jaksch into the fwd line it would be a big help.
Bugger about Weitering.
We have been walloped this year.
Difference being it wasn't through lack of application. Those sorts of defeats turn ppl away in droves and are far more embarrassing than any loss or win that we have experienced thus far.
It's the first time in a decade that I can recall being somewhat confident that we can win ugly. I'll take it for now, the rest can follow.
Art of War - If you cannot rise to your opponents level drag them down to yours!
We need to learn how to win... however that way is.
Id take a hard fought win anyday over giving other teams a shellacing.
Especially when it comes to a developing group
It's the first time in a decade that I can recall being somewhat confident that we can win ugly. I'll take it for now, the rest can follow.
Art of War - If you cannot rise to your opponents level drag them down to yours!
Love this post.