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Re: Who stood up?

Reply #15 –
Walsh's spoil in the last quarter deep in defence was amazing.  Longer vision shows how much ground he covered to get there.  Sydney player wouldn't have thought he was under pressure.

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Reply #16 –
Quote from: DJC on
That’s footy!

Our defence is usually such a well-oiled machine that the odd mistake, like Newy’s kick that missed Marchy, stands out like dog’s balls.

And, that brings me to  Caleb, who certainly stood up on Friday night.  A very underrated player is Marchy.
I'm a fan of Marchy, but that was his fault, not Newmans.

Marchy was waiting for the ball to get to him (or even going back slightly) rather than going to meet the ball. The Sydney player attacked the ball by coming to meet it and thus got the turnover.
Newman could have found a better option, sure. But Marchbank could've stopped the turnover by meeting the ball too

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Reply #17 –
Quote from: kruddler on
I'm a fan of Marchy, but that was his fault, not Newmans.

Marchy was waiting for the ball to get to him (or even going back slightly) rather than going to meet the ball. The Sydney player attacked the ball by coming to meet it and thus got the turnover.
Newman could have found a better option, sure. But Marchbank could've stopped the turnover by meeting the ball too
Yep, 100% agree.

The media and BT slammed Newman, I hear BT even grilled Newman about it post match, but it was a stupid call because the kick wasn't that bad it was the player waiting for the footy and not attacking it that caused the turnover. Coaches would be absolutely livid with what Marchbank did and 100% fine with the Newman kick, in fact they would tell Newman to keep doing it because it's that type of kick that pulls apart the opposition setup.

There is no waiting for the footy to come to you especially in finals, the fact that there should be no waiting for the footy to come to you in AFL at any time, which just reinforces the idea that waiting / hesitating creates an opportunity for somebody else to step in!

I noted Owies did the same at one stage, squatted to give birth rather than run at the footy, that stuff does my head in because it let's a defender float back into the space free of fear and without hesitation. Which raises another issue, "H" went off injured, in that contest it should not have been "H" being escorted off, his problem was he didn't hit the player dropping in the hole hard enough. "H" needs to spend some time watching Johnno Brown, if players like McCartin are going to float in front of him they need to pay a price.
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Reply #18 –
Was a risky kick that didnt pay off.

Hard to pay out on either, but occasionally you will make an option without expecting the ball to come your way (we were kicking it to the wing on the Olympic stand side almost exclusively during the game, and so were Sydney. 

Marchbank should have come to meet the ball once the kick came to him, but he wouldnt be the first player to think it would make it to him, without knowing his opponent was that close. 

Once the guy with the footy elects to take a risky kick, he cant absolve himself of the outcome of any adverse actions.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #19 –
Quote from: Thryleon on
Once the guy with the footy elects to take a risky kick, he cant absolve himself of the outcome of any adverse actions.
If they stop taking risks it's a loss by a thousand cuts, you can't win by being risk adverse.
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Reply #20 –
I thought we'd only get two weeks of "Who stood up?" in a final....silly me :-*
Looks like we'll get at least three weeks so...

Who stood up Week 2

Acres stood up (again)
Cripps stood up (although they tried to knock him down)
Walsh stood up....

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Reply #21 –
Quote from: Lods on
I thought we'd only get two weeks of "Who stood up?" in a final....silly me :-*
Looks like we'll get at least three weeks so...

Who stood up Week 2

Acres stood up (again)
Cripps stood up (although they tried to knock him down)
Walsh stood up....
I'll add Weitering, Pittonet and TDK to that trio and all players contributed even the sub Hollands with his little cameo role at the end which was important.

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Reply #22 –
Yep
Add on as many as you'd like. ;)
It gives us an idea of who stands up to finals pressure.

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Reply #23 –
After last night the better question is, who didn't. 

Even our worst player stood up.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #24 –
Motlop, despite his low stats, with his chasing pressure and tackling, along with two clutch-goals. Newman, the everywhere man. McGovern, got a lot of the ball and had an insane high kick-to-handball ratio, he generally does. Took about all of the 17 kickouts and was near faultless at it. He was also at the contest in the goalsquare, at the other end of the ground, when Acres took the matchwinning mark and goal too.

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Reply #25 –
Thre great thing is, I don't think we can say that any of the 22 didn't have a dip when their time came.  Some have had more moments than others, but what keeps it all together is the preparedness for each and every player to do their bit.

 If we accept that this has come from the Voss philosophy, it bodes well not just for the next week or two, but several more seasons.
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Reply #26 –
Well it's over...but at some stage through the final series we had lots of players stand up to show they're more than capable finals performers.

Week three...and of course Walsh is there again
I'll add
Marchbank (please stay healthy in 2024) stood up
and
Boyd (good selection) stood up.
There are a few more.
Add them on.

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Reply #27 –
Quote from: Lods on
Well it's over...but at some stage through the final series we had lots of players stand up to show they're more than capable finals performers.

Week three...and of course Walsh is there again
I'll add
Marchbank (please stay healthy in 2024) stood up
and
Boyd (good selection) stood up.
There are a few more.
Add them on.

It was a very brave effort by our boys who never gave in but looked very fatigued by the end.
Boyd was a really pleasing surprise package, for me anyway.
I wouldn't like to point the finger at any one of them for not standing up tbh.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #28 –
Quote from: cookie2 on
It was a very brave effort by our boys who never gave in but looked very fatigued by the end.
Boyd was a really pleasing surprise package, for me anyway.
I wouldn't like to point the finger at any one of them for not standing up tbh.

Yep
It's not really a case of 'who didn't stand up' though.
It's more about those who showed a bit under finals pressure.
If you don't get a mention you may have work to do, but circumstances also play a part.
Some would suggest Curnow wasn't significant but that could be more about how the ball was delivered, opposition tactics, double and triple teaming.

What we're looking for are players who can not only handle finals pressure but perform at close to their best.
Going forward next year we'll be able to say..."I don't have any doubts he can stand up to the pressure of finals"

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Reply #29 –
Quote from: Lods on
Well it's over...but at some stage through the final series we had lots of players stand up to show they're more than capable finals performers.

Week three...and of course Walsh is there again
I'll add
Marchbank (please stay healthy in 2024) stood up
and
Boyd (good selection) stood up.
There are a few more.
Add them on.
The selection committee pulled the right strings for a change.