Re: US Presidential Election 2016 Reply #360 – June 20, 2016, 04:44:30 pm The problem is that he isn't running against Republicans any more. Lindsey Graham said a choice between Trump and Cruz was like choosing between being shot or poisoned. In many ways, Cruz is more of a right-wing wingnut than Trump. Rubio was just as extreme, albeit a little more likeable. Using the Republican primaries as a guide to the general election is misguided. If a voter wants to vote for a small government conservative who isn't a narcissistic bigot, he or she can vote for the Libertarian candidate. I doubt that Trump will appeal to too many left-wingers.The other thing is that Trump's vote in the primaries wasn't underestimated by the polls. The polls predicted his success. The notable exception was the Iowa Caucuses where the polls predicted a solid win to Trump but Cruz ended up winning after his team sent around an email that falsely suggested Ben Carson had withdrawn from the race. On the other hand, the nice guy Establishment candidate, Jeb Bush, did just as badly in the polls as in the Primaries and Ben Carson tanked as well. So where is the evidence that he has secret support? Given he has big turnouts at his rallies, it doesn't look as though his supporters are particularly bashful. Last Edit: June 20, 2016, 05:10:04 pm by Mav
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 Reply #361 – June 20, 2016, 06:08:21 pm Quote from: LP on June 20, 2016, 02:40:22 pmYou mean they are bigots and racists but won't publicly admit it?No. It's a protest vote against the cultural elite.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 Reply #362 – June 20, 2016, 06:10:29 pm Quote from: LanceRomance on June 20, 2016, 06:08:21 pmNo. It's a protest vote against the cultural elite.And the political elite.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 Reply #363 – June 20, 2016, 06:14:53 pm Quote from: cookie2 on June 20, 2016, 06:10:29 pmAnd the political elite.exactly.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 Reply #364 – June 20, 2016, 06:15:22 pm He's finished...He's fighting a battle on two fronts... against Democrats and RepublicansThe Hitler analogy finally has some legitimacy.You cant win on the Eastern and Western front
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 Reply #365 – June 20, 2016, 06:18:02 pm Quote from: Lods on June 20, 2016, 06:15:22 pmHe's finished...He's fighting a battle on two fronts... against Democrats and RepublicansThe Hitler analogy finally has some legitimacy.You cant win on the Eastern and Western frontReckon tbe republicans dont want to win tbe next election?
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 Reply #366 – June 20, 2016, 06:21:14 pm They do for a number of reasons (supreme court,senate elections)...But what to do about it?
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 Reply #367 – June 20, 2016, 06:40:59 pm Quote from: LanceRomance on June 20, 2016, 06:18:02 pmReckon tbe republicans dont want to win tbe next election?They are desperate to win but mucked up badly by allowing Trump to get this far.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 Reply #368 – June 20, 2016, 06:51:22 pm Quote from: DJC on June 20, 2016, 06:40:59 pmThey are desperate to win but mucked up badly by allowing Trump to get this far.I think its reached the point where they have to run an alternative candidate.They're not going to win anyway..but at least they provide a candidate that is more truly representative of the party.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 Reply #369 – June 20, 2016, 06:56:42 pm Quote from: Lods on June 20, 2016, 06:51:22 pmI think its reached the point where they have to run an alternative candidate.They're not going to win anyway..but at least they provide a candidate that is more truly representative of the party.They are viewed quite rightly now as serving only the interests of the super-rich elite class and its political servants. Hilary of course can also be classified in that category so it will be a win for the elites whichever way it goes. Last Edit: June 20, 2016, 08:53:10 pm by cookie2
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 Reply #370 – June 20, 2016, 08:28:36 pm Quote from: DJC on June 20, 2016, 06:40:59 pmThey are desperate to win but mucked up badly by allowing Trump to get this far.Trump is his own worst enemy, the more issues the Democrats raise the bigger the goose he is making of himself!
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 Reply #371 – June 20, 2016, 08:46:51 pm Quote from: LP on June 20, 2016, 08:28:36 pmTrump is his own worst enemy, the more issues the Democrats raise the bigger the goose he is making of himself!Bullets seem to miss or bounce off him.....he even got mileage out of a horrendous act like the Orlando shooting....only he could pat himself on the back over that and get away with it.Hilary now has her husbands dirty laundry being aired thanks to some secret agent who isnt so secret anymore, things just keep on falling into place for the Trumpster...lets hope the sane electors remember to vote.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 Reply #372 – June 20, 2016, 09:38:31 pm You crack me up! Trump got away with it? Kinda like the Japanese got away with Pearl Harbour ...
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 Reply #373 – June 21, 2016, 09:11:06 am Well, Trump's Campaign Manager, Corey Lewandowski, didn't get away with it: Why Donald Trump Said 'You're Fired!' To Campaign Manager Corey Lewandowski, the Age 19/6/16.Lewandowski was safe as long as Trump kept winning. Hell, he could even get away with manhandling a conservative female reporter, which must leave Eddie green with envy. But his sacking points to the fact that the last couple of weeks have been terrible for Trump. There's even new life in the Dump Trump movement and there's now talk of delegates refusing to vote for Trump in order to create a contested convention.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 Reply #374 – June 21, 2016, 10:41:57 am The US Senate has rejected four proposed measures to expand background checks on gun buyers and curb gun sales to those on terrorism watch lists.