Carlton Supporters Club

Princes Park => Robert Heatley Stand => Topic started by: PaulP on April 04, 2017, 09:08:58 am

Title: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: PaulP on April 04, 2017, 09:08:58 am
Hey Crash - thought I'd give you a hand old son.

Sunday April 9th, 3.20 PM
MCG
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: townsendcalling on April 04, 2017, 12:07:47 pm
 :-*Rest Cripps, bring in Palmer.  Give CC another crack at it (youth gets the benefit of the doubt!). Rest Armfield  Bring in Boekhurst. (Solid in the 2s, adds outside run)   Bring in Kerridge leave out White....don't need him.

Back 6
Doc   Rowe  Plowman

Simmo  Marchbank  McCreadie
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Navy Maven on April 04, 2017, 12:41:45 pm
Keen to play the youth as well, but I think Charlie needs to find some touch/confidence in the NB's. Bring in Harry McKay for him this week.

Armfield and White out for Palmer and Boekhorst.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LP on April 04, 2017, 01:41:30 pm
Boekhorst.

Boekhorst will deliver nothing but disappointment, he's all mouth and no action at AFL level.

He'd be better off getting a job as a professional tweeter!

No heart, or at least none that shows! :o

There are tells that surround games played by blokes like Boekhorst;

 - Decelerating into the contest.
 - Hot potato disposal.
 - That quick over the shoulder backwards glance.
 - His hero is Wile E. Coyote!
 - That feeling of tragedy, like the one you get when Bambi crosses the freeway!
 - Casboult kicking for goal!
 - Watching Boeky gives you the same feeling of a new scooter when all you wanted was a bike!

Sorry for the negativity, but I sense a waste of time and space!

(https://hollywoodhatesme.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/wile-e-coyote.jpg)
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Jean-Claude on April 04, 2017, 01:47:59 pm
Fisher, Cunningham and McKay. That's who I would be looking to bring in if any that's the future. The likes of Kerridge and Boekhorst are no better than what we have and not the future. We are already turning it over enough, and then people will be calling for them to be dropped in 2 weeks anyway.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LP on April 04, 2017, 01:58:36 pm
Fisher, Cunningham and McKay. That's who I would be looking to bring in if any that's the future. The likes of Kerridge and Boekhorst are no better than what we have and not the future. We are already turning it over enough, and then people will be calling for them to be dropped in 2 weeks anyway.

I'd say with Cripps possibly an out, we can't afford to carry both Pickett and SPS against the CheatsFC bewcause we will be too thin on the ground for midfield rotations. So I'd be giving one of them a week off as well, and bringing in Palmer as a mature body, and Sheehan must be mighty close enough to be good to go. McKay up forward, Weitering back and Armfield, Marchbank and C.Curnow into the rotations.

If Cripps plays C.Curnow gets a holiday and no many other changes are required beyond one of either White or Armfield out for Palmer or Sheehan.

CheatsFC are going small and fast, 27°C and sunny this Sunday means good marking weather for talls!
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 04, 2017, 02:33:09 pm
Boekhorst will deliver nothing but disappointment, he's all mouth and no action at AFL level.

He'd be better off getting a job as a professional tweeter!

No heart, or at least none that shows! :o

There are tells that surround games played by blokes like Boekhorst;

 - Decelerating into the contest.
 - Hot potato disposal.
 - That quick over the shoulder backwards glance.
 - His hero is Wile E. Coyote!
 - That feeling of tragedy, like the one you get when Bambi crosses the freeway!
 - Casboult kicking for goal!
 - Watching Boeky gives you the same feeling of a new scooter when all you wanted was a bike!

Sorry for the negativity, but I sense a waste of time and space!

(https://hollywoodhatesme.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/wile-e-coyote.jpg)

Harry White had the same effect on some of the horses he rode hence his nick name handbrake Harry...
Fully agree with your thoughts on Boekhorst but he will get another couple of chances this year to see if he has improved but like you I doubt it...
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: cookie2 on April 04, 2017, 02:49:38 pm
The tip is that if Cripps does not play then Palmer or Kerridge will get the gig. I have a feeling that Levi will be given another chance but Army may well be on thin ice this week and that could open up a spot for Cunningham or Boekhorst?

I just have the feeling though that we won't see too many unforced changes and that BB will throw down the gauntlet to the guys once more this week. Just a feeling, could be way off beam.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: pew2 on April 04, 2017, 03:18:17 pm
Does anyone else think to try armfield as a tagger  he has strength, speed, on someone like merrett i am thinking?
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: cookie2 on April 04, 2017, 03:34:21 pm
Does anyone else think to try armfield as a tagger  he has strength, speed, on someone like merrett i am thinking?

Z. Merrett will certainly need some close attention, he's averaged 35 disposals alone in the first two games. Army could tag him but then what would Ed C do? Do we want to play two taggers?
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 04, 2017, 03:43:46 pm
Z. Merrett will certainly need some close attention, he's averaged 35 disposals alone in the first two games. Army could tag him but then what would Ed C do? Do we want to play two taggers?

Reckon we might need three.....Heppell and Jab will need watching also.....need more size up forward as well....Essendon always have one player usually Hooker when played back who
sits across half back and just racks up intercept marks thanks to our bombed ill directed kicks, drives me insane when we have no talls to contest...
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Thryleon on April 04, 2017, 03:50:26 pm
Reckon we might need three.....Heppell and Jab will need watching also.....need more size up forward as well....Essendon always have one player usually Hooker when played back who
sits across half back and just racks up intercept marks thanks to our bombed ill directed kicks, drives me insane when we have no talls to contest...

They've switched it up this year.

They go with Patrick Ambrose in defense, and have moved Cale Hooker forward.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LP on April 04, 2017, 03:52:11 pm
Does anyone else think to try armfield as a tagger  he has strength, speed, on someone like merrett i am thinking?

He's done OK, but he lacks agility.

E.Curnow is our best by far, but he lacks pace.

I'd almost give SPS a tagging role and see if he can annoy the sh1te out of someone, and in the process sneak a goal or two!

CheatsFC, excluding Jab, are not that big in the midfield. I'd almost surrender possession and dump the hell out of them tackle after tackle. If you are going to get hold of them, really get hold of them Lonergan style, Quid Pro Quo :o

The word I have is that the CheatsFC inner circle are talking up Carlton as the primary cause of their bans. Something to do with The Chemist Tapes! ;)

Hopefully if Levi plays he manages to step in the way of a few of them Vlastuin style!
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: cookie2 on April 04, 2017, 04:05:38 pm
Wonder if Rowe will play on J Daniher or will Weitering move back to defence?
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: PaulP on April 04, 2017, 05:02:39 pm
Expecting to lose by 7 goals.

Their midfield has some pace, skill and flexibility, and Woosha seems to have the structure working nicely. We've got them whilst they're still in their euphoric return phase. Plus their talls Hurley, Hooker etc. are not too shabby. Plus Cripps and Rowe unlikely.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Jean-Claude on April 04, 2017, 05:14:20 pm
Wonder if Rowe will play on J Daniher or will Weitering move back to defence?

I think Rowe deserves first crack, he has been solid. Don't want to send a message to them that we are worried and need Weitering back either just from a mindset thing at the start.

In general though I am torn, Weitering with a developing McKay has great potential as a forward duo but as a defender our backline is pretty much ready and set. Perfect world Kerr comes on and Weitering can move back but who knows. Just hope Cripps pulls, it will be a massive loss if we don't have him.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 04, 2017, 06:43:16 pm
Wonder if Rowe will play on J Daniher or will Weitering move back to defence?
Rowe probably wont play as he ended up with concussion.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 04, 2017, 06:46:49 pm
So this was a game I pencilled us in for a possible win, I still stand by that. I dont rate these cheating fecks just yet and I have not seen anything diabolical from our mob to suggest we are no chance. I would love nothing more than to burst their bubble.
Blues by 12 pts
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 04, 2017, 09:08:14 pm
So this was a game I pencilled us in for a possible win, I still stand by that. I dont rate these cheating fecks just yet and I have not seen anything diabolical from our mob to suggest we are no chance. I would love nothing more than to burst their bubble.
Blues by 12 pts

Never feel confident vs Essendon and given their B team beat us last season I dont feel we have much chance with Cripps likely missing and perhaps Rowe as well...
Their mids are on fire and I dont think we have the depth to cover them....
Love to see us win but cant see it....
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon I'll iI
Post by: cookie2 on April 04, 2017, 09:31:24 pm

It would need a massive turn around from last game's performance. I can't see it happening ATM.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: crashlander on April 04, 2017, 09:35:59 pm
Melbourne certainly did a disservice last week, even though they paid for it with suspensions. Cripps will not be at his best - he can't be. Rowe is probably not going to play and we play the Drug Cheats with things going their way. That is not good.
I could complain about Channel 7 and their sycophancy towards the Drug Cheats, but that will not change it.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LoveNavy on April 04, 2017, 09:53:15 pm
@LP

The word I have is that the CheatsFC inner circle are talking up Carlton as the primary cause of their bans. Something to do with The Chemist Tapes! ;)

Oh yeah that's right. Just like Carlton is the primary cause of the Russian rail blast right :o ffs
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon I'll iI
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 04, 2017, 10:15:41 pm
It would need a massive turn around from last game's performance. I can't see it happening ATM.
Turnaround? Yes. Massive? No. Maintain the effort in that last qtr, score that extra goal and we win. We dropped off and let Melbourne get a little run. Stop that and we win. Its not massive, its attitude. Have faith, you never know.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: bmaurizio on April 05, 2017, 01:36:48 am
This one may get nasty not  confident at All, could really blow out.
If we're to win everything needs to go right for us,  keeping fingers crossed.
Go Baggers
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: BluePhantom on April 05, 2017, 07:06:19 am
Melbourne certainly did a disservice last week, even though they paid for it with suspensions. Cripps will not be at his best - he can't be. Rowe is probably not going to play and we play the Drug Cheats with things going their way. That is not good.
I could complain about Channel 7 and their sycophancy towards the Drug Cheats, but that will not change it.
We will be everyone's whipping boy forever until we win a flag.
Every moment, every chance C7 gets it puts it's boot into us.
Playing the Scum is another perfect opportunity.
When was the last time we heard 'Champagne football', Premiership Quarter?'
It makes you cry when you think about how long ago those comments went hand in hand with our football club.
I don't understand the love of the Scum after all they also cheated for the 93 flag.
But until we win IT we have to keep sucking it up, but boy when we do win it I think we will be sore losers. >:D
People will know we have won.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: shawny on April 05, 2017, 07:18:32 am
While very few 'experts' will select us i don't rate them as highly as some. Yes they have better leg speed and a midfield that bats a little deeper, but that's where their advantage ends.

This is the week for Murphy and Gibbs to play big 4 quarter  games - I was at the Port game last year for Simmo 250th and our leaders played a blinder. That's the effort we need this week.

If Gibbs and Murphy play big games and Cripps gets up, Kreuzer will be the dominate ruckman on the field which will definitely give us an edge in the middle if Gibbs and Murphy are on.  I would use negetive roles with curnow to merrett and armfield to Heppell.

Negate their only strength and we win. It's our home game I reckon we will be up for this.

Blues by 14.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: PaulP on April 05, 2017, 07:33:36 am
Shawny, it was Simmo's 250th.

I think their forwards in Daniher and Orazio "Stu Cazzio" Fantasia are pretty handy. Their better mids in Heppell and Zac are in good form and in a good age /experience bracket. Our main guys Murph and Gibbs are starting to trail off a little. Jobe, like Simmo, was never fast, but he looks slower and more lumbering than usual. Still strong though, and still a good use of the footy.

Our record against them recently goes something like this :
2008-2012 : 4 wins, 1 draw, 6 losses
2013-2016 : 1 win, 1 draw, 5 losses.

Although one is better than the other, neither of those records is real flash.

I hope you're right about the win, but I don't see it happening.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon I'll iI
Post by: cookie2 on April 05, 2017, 07:41:55 am
Turnaround? Yes. Massive? No. Maintain the effort in that last qtr, score that extra goal and we win. We dropped off and let Melbourne get a little run. Stop that and we win. Its not massive, its attitude. Have faith, you never know.

Hope you're right GTC but I thought we really only played well for about 1.5qrts and made a lot of critical mistakes pretty much right through game. Having said all of that a report in today's Age has us really fired up! Go Blues!
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon I'll iI
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 05, 2017, 09:00:10 am
Hope you're right GTC but I thought we really only played well for about 1.5qrts and made a lot of critical mistakes pretty much right through game. Having said all of that a report in today's Age has us really fired up! Go Blues!
Cookie at some point, the tide must turn. It may as well be this week ;)
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Pratty on April 05, 2017, 09:00:33 am
The Curnow boys - Ed and Charlie - can tag Heppell and Watson for mine. Land someone on Zach Merrett like David Cuningham. We are about educating these young blokes, and they've gotta see what's required to go to the next level.

Weitering stays forward with Jack Silvagni and Harry McKay.

Outs for me are - Armfield, White and Casboult.

Bring in - Cuningham, Fisher and McKay

Let's show em, our kids are better than what they have. There's more to get excited by The Mighty Blues than the Bombers. I'd love for this to be clear to all that watch the game!
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: bigblue on April 05, 2017, 09:07:43 am
Im still hurting from last yr.  >:( >:(
I hate Ess. >:( >:( >:( >:(
 I'm not a real hater of anything really but the Ess footy club........ ( I just vomited a little in my mouth typing their name )
I HATE !

They had arguably 8 to 10 of their 1st choice players out last time round and they still pulled our pants down :o......... I'm sick of our club being their BIATCH !

Time for our boys to draw that preverbial "line in the sand" and take the game up to these bunch of - no good, drug cheating,  smug , nancy boy €¥ ! ;/$ ..................

Cmon blues. Nothing will do more for our collective pride ( and membership while we're at it ) than a win this week.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: shawny on April 05, 2017, 09:26:20 am
Shawny, it was Simmo's 250th.

I think their forwards in Daniher and Orazio "Stu Cazzio" Fantasia are pretty handy. Their better mids in Heppell and Zac are in good form and in a good age /experience bracket. Our main guys Murph and Gibbs are starting to trail off a little. Jobe, like Simmo, was never fast, but he looks slower and more lumbering than usual. Still strong though, and still a good use of the footy.

Our record against them recently goes something like this :
2008-2012 : 4 wins, 1 draw, 6 losses
2013-2016 : 1 win, 1 draw, 5 losses.

Although one is better than the other, neither of those records is real flash.

I hope you're right about the win, but I don't see it happening.
[/

I agree they have had our measure for too long but IMO thats cause then seem to grow another leg when they face us rather than beating us based on pure ability. 

The forwards you mention are handy but no world beaters. I rate our defence as a strength and with marchbank and mccredie in I think we can stop them kicking a big score.

Melb have way more forward options and we closed them down pretty well.

 

Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: sandsmere on April 05, 2017, 09:45:18 am


Weitering stays forward with Jack Silvagni and Harry McKay.

Outs for me are - Armfield, White and Casboult.

Bring in - Cuningham, Fisher and McKay



Five first year players. Plus Jack and Charlie.

They would beat us by over 100 points.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Thryleon on April 05, 2017, 09:54:48 am
I tell you what, this is a big game for us.

Id be dropping your non event non contributer learners for this week, and bringing in Rhys Palmer and whoever else has a mature body to deal with the sort of work the Bombers will put into us.

Palmer in particular is a must for this one and I reckon bring back Kerridge too, and sit him on Merret.

The kids should get an education against teams that are not going to be ruthless at the contest, and that is what I have seen from the Bombers.  We need to protect the younger kids in some matches, and this is one of them.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LP on April 05, 2017, 09:58:45 am
I tell you what, this is a big game for us.

Id be dropping your non event non contributer learners for this week, and bringing in Rhys Palmer and whoever else has a mature body to deal with the sort of work the Bombers will put into us.

Palmer in particular is a must for this one and I reckon bring back Kerridge too, and sit him on Merret.

The kids should get an education against teams that are not going to be ruthless at the contest, and that is what I have seen from the Bombers.  We need to protect the younger kids in some matches, and this is one of them.

I tend to agree, it's the perfect game to give blokes any who want to make a career saving statement an opportunity! ;)
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: DJC on April 05, 2017, 10:05:26 am
Five first year players. Plus Jack and Charlie.

They would beat us by over 100 points.

I reckon that would be nine players with 10 games or less.  They would beat us by 200 points.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LP on April 05, 2017, 10:07:25 am
I reckon that would be nine players with 10 games or less.  They would beat us by 200 points.

That would be the trigger for Watson and Lloyd to start the tanking debate!

You can almost hear Barrett, Ralph and Flubbo drooling at the thought of it! ;)

(https://media.giphy.com/media/AVilYmB74xhK/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: DJC on April 05, 2017, 10:07:48 am
I tell you what, this is a big game for us.

Id be dropping your non event non contributer learners for this week, and bringing in Rhys Palmer and whoever else has a mature body to deal with the sort of work the Bombers will put into us.

Palmer in particular is a must for this one and I reckon bring back Kerridge too, and sit him on Merret.

The kids should get an education against teams that are not going to be ruthless at the contest, and that is what I have seen from the Bombers.  We need to protect the younger kids in some matches, and this is one of them.

Yes, I'd like to see Palmer and Kerridge in the 22 this week.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Pominoz on April 05, 2017, 10:07:57 am
I think ita a huge game but with huge rival games its a chance for young and old players to make a statement of intent! Yes were a young side! But young doesnt mean not good enough! I think its a great chance for our younger players to really show what were made of!

Palmer kerridge would be great additions for strength and knock ability mixed with youth i fancy us suprising people

Last week everyone predicted a cricket score but if we had kicked a little bit better we would have slain the dees

Same again this week i think personally we can do it
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: PaulP on April 05, 2017, 11:15:00 am
Shawny, I appreciate what you're saying. Their list might not be world beaters, but they're good enough to beat us, and for this game, that's all that matters. I reckon their list is good enough to just sneak into the 8.

I agree our defense is good, but apart from Wright, our forward line is not. And we run into the same recurring problem, which is how do we kick a winning score. I'm happy to be proven wrong, but I don't see it.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 05, 2017, 11:43:40 am
I tell you what, this is a big game for us.

Id be dropping your non event non contributer learners for this week, and bringing in Rhys Palmer and whoever else has a mature body to deal with the sort of work the Bombers will put into us.

Palmer in particular is a must for this one and I reckon bring back Kerridge too, and sit him on Merret.

The kids should get an education against teams that are not going to be ruthless at the contest, and that is what I have seen from the Bombers.  We need to protect the younger kids in some matches, and this is one of them.

I'd agree we need to bring in some mature players...Bombers think they have the physical advantage over us and I expect them to go hard on our young blokes so I wouldnt be putting anymore newbie kids in the team and I think another taller player is also necessary...either Jones or Jaksch.
Kerridge on Merrett reads ok to me and I'd have E.Curnow on Heppell...
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: BluePhantom on April 05, 2017, 11:54:46 am
Im still hurting from last yr.  >:( >:(
I hate Ess. >:( >:( >:( >:(
 I'm not a real hater of anything really but the Ess footy club........ ( I just vomited a little in my mouth typing their name )
I HATE !

They had arguably 8 to 10 of their 1st choice players out last time round and they still pulled our pants down :o......... I'm sick of our club being their BIATCH !

Time for our boys to draw that preverbial "line in the sand" and take the game up to these bunch of - no good, drug cheating,  smug , nancy boy €¥ ! ;/$ ..................

Cmon blues. Nothing will do more for our collective pride ( and membership while we're at it ) than a win this week.

And right there BigBlue has summed up what we all want to say and feel.  :)
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Pratty on April 05, 2017, 12:54:56 pm
The major issue with Kerridge is he is soft. And his skills are VFL at best. Sorry, I don't want those peanuts from Essendon shoving us around and blokes like Kerridge, Boekhorst and the like squibbing it again, as they have done b4. Add a number of more so called 'senior' players to that list too.

I get the kids theme - I think those kids though stood up better than Murphy, Gibbs and co last week when the heat was on - so each to their own. The way our kids stood up - was a MAJOR tick for Bolts, SOS and the young players themselves. We tipped Hogan and Lewis over the edge. Thanks boys! Suckers!!! Did you see how Weitering went at Lewis without even hesitating. Yep, give me more of this robust, young, red hot blooded kids whose blood boils when another young teammate cops a sucker punch or has opposition hassling them. They're ready!

I'd back in our kids compared to that of our so called 'mature' age players. Sorry, no thanks.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LP on April 05, 2017, 01:15:49 pm
The major issue with Kerridge is he is soft. And his skills are VFL at best. Sorry, I don't want those peanuts from Essendon shoving us around and blokes like Kerridge, Boekhorst and the like squibbing it again, as they have done b4. Add a number of more so called 'senior' players to that list too.

I get the kids theme - I think those kids though stood up better than Murphy, Gibbs and co last week when the heat was on - so each to their own. The way our kids stood up - was a MAJOR tick for Bolts, SOS and the young players themselves. We tipped Hogan and Lewis over the edge. Thanks boys! Suckers!!! Did you see how Weitering went at Lewis without even hesitating. Yep, give me more of this robust, young, red hot blooded kids whose blood boils when another young teammate cops a sucker punch or has opposition hassling them. They're ready!

I'd back in our kids compared to that of our so called 'mature' age players. Sorry, no thanks.

Relative to who on our list?

Not sure you can put Kerridge in the same category as Boekhorst, or how you even arrived at that conclusion.

Kerridge has never had trouble winning the ball at stoppages when working inside, the thing everybody hates about him is his use of the ball and apparent lack of leg speed. I don't see much difference between Kerridge and Graham, and Graham might have many deficiencies but he is not soft.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Pratty on April 05, 2017, 02:06:17 pm
Relative to who on our list?

Not sure you can put Kerridge in the same category as Boekhorst, or how you even arrived at that conclusion.

Kerridge has never had trouble winning the ball at stoppages when working inside, the thing everybody hates about him is his use of the ball and apparent lack of leg speed. I don't see much difference between Kerridge and Graham, and Graham might have many deficiencies but he is not soft.

He's soft alright. Add to that he's a fumbler and average ball user. Good size physique though.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: cookie2 on April 05, 2017, 02:33:52 pm
Our focus, at least for the first half, should be on physicality - at least standing up to the Bummers and even trying to get an edge. Hopefully then we can outplay them in the second half. We just can't be carrying softies for this one and I can see Palmer coming in handy. Kerridge could be handy as a run with player. I would also keep SPS in the team.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 05, 2017, 03:11:31 pm
Yes, I'd like to see Palmer and Kerridge in the 22 this week.
Kerridge was terrible during the JLT series, unless he has been a standout in the twos, I say he should be as far away from the MCG as possible on Sunday.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Jean-Claude on April 05, 2017, 03:47:04 pm
Kerridge was terrible during the JLT series, unless he has been a standout in the twos, I say he should be as far away from the MCG as possible on Sunday.

Couldn't agree more GIC. An athlete and nothing else. He is a depth player at best and we should be playing the kids who can hit targets as they are the future.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: cookie2 on April 05, 2017, 04:52:31 pm
I think BB will be extra keen to win this one imo., losing is starting to get to him. That may mean going for a slightly more mature line up and not bringing in more as yet untried guys.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Thryleon on April 05, 2017, 05:37:33 pm
Kerridge was terrible during the JLT series, unless he has been a standout in the twos, I say he should be as far away from the MCG as possible on Sunday.

Fraser said he was a standout in the two's.

Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LP on April 05, 2017, 05:49:48 pm
Fraser said he was a standout in the two's.

(https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/pacificrim/images/0/09/Homer-Simpson-wingnuts-doh.gif/revision/latest?cb=20130909105555)
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: DJC on April 05, 2017, 05:50:38 pm
Fraser said he was a standout in the two's.

And emergency for round 1 - can't be far off selection.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 05, 2017, 06:18:16 pm
Fraser said he was a standout in the two's.
Fair enough then.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: laj on April 05, 2017, 06:31:29 pm
Fraser spoke about how brutal Jaksch was in the air and how well he is competing. Might be worth giving him a shot.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 05, 2017, 06:48:59 pm
Fraser spoke about how brutal Jaksch was in the air and how well he is competing. Might be worth giving him a shot.
Agree however it must be made clear to him that anything less than a "brutal" 4 qtrs effort will result in him back in the 2s quicker than he came into the 1's.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: kruddler on April 05, 2017, 07:33:25 pm
So this was a game I pencilled us in for a possible win, I still stand by that. I dont rate these cheating fecks just yet and I have not seen anything diabolical from our mob to suggest we are no chance. I would love nothing more than to burst their bubble.
Blues by 12 pts

Didn't you pencil in the first 2 games as wins too? Or am i thinking of someone else?!
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: kruddler on April 05, 2017, 07:35:53 pm
I think BB will be extra keen to win this one imo., losing is starting to get to him. That may mean going for a slightly more mature line up and not bringing in more as yet untried guys.

He's won one game from his last 14 (not including 0-3 in the preseason!) so i'm not surprised losing is getting to him.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: cookie2 on April 05, 2017, 07:52:13 pm
He's won one game from his last 14 (not including 0-3 in the preseason!) so i'm not surprised losing is getting to him.

The life of a senior CFC coach eh?
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 05, 2017, 08:19:12 pm
He's won one game from his last 14 (not including 0-3 in the preseason!) so i'm not surprised losing is getting to him.

Think he was 5-zip at Hawthorn and the job looked easy, rebuilds though give you a few years grace and the media/supporters
on the whole seem more understanding than in previous years, maybe the Mathouse experience wasnt all bad and was an educating
experience for those expecting miracles...
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: BluePhantom on April 05, 2017, 08:25:08 pm
Can't Cripps wear a helmet that has padding along the chin strap as protection/precaution.
But I suppose we have to weigh up what is this game worth?
 A shot at the finals?
 Will we go backwards if we lose?
 Will Crippa be worse off if he plays?
...Etc
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 05, 2017, 08:27:37 pm
Can't Cripps wear a helmet that has padding along the chin strap as protection/precaution.
But I suppose we have to weigh up what is this game worth?
 A shot at the finals?
 Will we go backwards if we lose?
 Will Crippa be worse off if he plays?
...Etc

I'd rest Cripps and Rowe....no need to risk either in a rebuild year, gives some opportunities to other players
and we always have the excuse we were missing two of our key players, so we can downplay an EFC victory if they win...
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LoveNavy on April 05, 2017, 09:33:07 pm
I'd agree we need to bring in some mature players...Bombers think they have the physical advantage over us and I expect them to go hard on our young blokes so I wouldnt be putting anymore newbie kids in the team and I think another taller player is also necessary...either Jones or Jaksch.
Kerridge on Merrett reads ok to me and I'd have E.Curnow on Heppell...

I'm with EB. I'd like to see Palmer in to add some grunt.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: flyboy77 on April 05, 2017, 09:37:07 pm
I'm with EB. I'd like to see Palmer in to add some grunt.

You need to put someone good on Palmer otherwise he will hurt you!
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LoveNavy on April 05, 2017, 09:40:51 pm
Can't Cripps wear a helmet that has padding along the chin strap as protection/precaution.
But I suppose we have to weigh up what is this game worth?
 A shot at the finals?
 Will we go backwards if we lose?
 Will Crippa be worse off if he plays?
...Etc

The helmet is a good point. IIRC Murphy wore one post fractured jaw. I think we then had a little winning streak. He joked about wearing it regardless of need if it helped us win ;D
I guess it also depends on whether it's upper or lower jaw. I'm not sure what Murphy or Cripps have.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LP on April 06, 2017, 07:31:58 am
The helmet is a good point. IIRC Murphy wore one post fractured jaw. I think we then had a little winning streak. He joked about wearing it regardless of need if it helped us win ;D
I guess it also depends on whether it's upper or lower jaw. I'm not sure what Murphy or Cripps have.

Murphy had a fractured cheekbone and a cut to his head, not a jaw injury. Yet another victim of Hodge in full dog mode!

Actually I am surprised Murphy is not still wearing his helmet, he has had quite a few head knocks over the years.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Lods on April 06, 2017, 08:04:11 am
Actually I am surprised Murphy is not still wearing his helmet, he has had quite a few head knocks over the years.

Yep
A victim of "playing kids" without adequate mature protection.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: cookie2 on April 06, 2017, 08:09:24 am
Yep
A victim of "playing kids" without adequate mature protection.

I'm a great fan of having a couple of tough nuts riding shotgun to discourage would be snipers. Touch our kids and you will get it back in spades!
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: DJC on April 06, 2017, 09:12:29 am
I'm a great fan of having a couple of tough nuts riding shotgun to discourage would be snipers. Touch our kids and you will get it back in spades!

But where will we get them from Cookie?   ;)
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LP on April 06, 2017, 11:04:45 am
But where will we get them from Cookie?   ;)

We should start by not getting rid of them when we have one! ;)
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LP on April 06, 2017, 11:06:01 am
Yep
A victim of "playing kids" without adequate mature protection.

Can you imagine exposing the kids unguarded to those Kents at CheatsFC?

You may as well just smash-em with a baseball bat, tattoo "CheatsFC Bitch 4-Eva" on their forehead and let Sheedy whip them with a jacket as they run out onto The G!

At least we'll be able to keep up the complaints about our dud drafting for years to come! ::)
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 06, 2017, 11:26:45 am
But where will we get them from Cookie?   ;)

Other clubs, we cant seem to draft or breed many of them and the ones we do ie Robbo...we give them away...
Casboult disappointed me vs the Tigers...built like Tarzan but acted like Jane when confronted with Martin....
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: DJC on April 06, 2017, 11:39:48 am
Other clubs, we cant seem to draft or breed many of them and the ones we do ie Robbo...we give them away...
Casboult disappointed me vs the Tigers...built like Tarzan but acted like Jane when confronted with Martin....

Actually, I think that most of our new blokes enjoy "flying the flag".  They just need some big, mature bodies in there with them.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: shawny on April 06, 2017, 11:59:32 am
I'd rest Cripps and Rowe....no need to risk either in a rebuild year, gives some opportunities to other players
and we always have the excuse we were missing two of our key players, so we can downplay an EFC victory if they win...

Agree EB. I said the exact thing to my daughter!!!

We need a comeback line.  Geez I hate this mob.

Would love to watch Goddard sooking it up walking off the ground after a loss.



Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 06, 2017, 12:07:39 pm
Actually, I think that most of our new blokes enjoy "flying the flag".  They just need some big, mature bodies in there with them.

It was Weitering and Matt Wright who went into deal with Lewis.....pleasing to see the former flying the flag...Charlie Curnow also has a bit of agro about him...
I'll be interested to see if Essendon pick Heath Hocking, if they do I know what sort of game its going to be....
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Pratty on April 06, 2017, 01:46:55 pm
Couldn't agree more GIC. An athlete and nothing else. He is a depth player at best and we should be playing the kids who can hit targets as they are the future.

Agree 100% gents. What a great test for our young group!
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LP on April 06, 2017, 01:59:55 pm
Agree 100% gents. What a great test for our young group!

We can call it Gallipoli or Verdun, a great test for young men! :o

It's completely naive to think CheatsFC won't take every opportunity to beat up on the list full of young players! CheatsFC are the old roosters fully intending to regain their hutch after having been locked in exile while the blood lines were purified! It'll be a Cock fight, except one team will be a Bantam!
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: BluePhantom on April 06, 2017, 02:01:10 pm
Drop Crippa and Rowe and then play man on man all day ala Wayne Brittain style  >:(
Gee that was a great game to watch, way back when!  :)
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LP on April 06, 2017, 02:04:28 pm
Drop Crippa and Rowe and then play man on man all day ala Wayne Brittain style  >:(
Gee that was a great game to watch, way back when!  :)

Oh yeah, hard to imagine why we knifed a bloke with so much footy smarts!
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Pratty on April 06, 2017, 02:12:58 pm
We can call it Gallipoli or Verdun, a great test for young men! :o

It's completely naive to think CheatsFC won't take every opportunity to beat up on the list full of young players! CheatsFC are the old roosters fully intending to regain their hutch after having been locked in exile while the blood lines were purified! It'll be a Cock fight, except one team will be a Bantam!

Never said they may not try to be physical. This is AFL. This happens every week. Naive to think it has, and will only, be this week against the Dons. I'll back our younger core group in.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Thryleon on April 06, 2017, 03:06:23 pm
We can call it Gallipoli or Verdun, a great test for young men! :o

It's completely naive to think CheatsFC won't take every opportunity to beat up on the list full of young players! CheatsFC are the old roosters fully intending to regain their hutch after having been locked in exile while the blood lines were purified! It'll be a Cock fight, except one team will be a Bantam!

Mitch Brown has already ruined one of Weiterings shoulders.  We dont need a repeat performance for the sake of educating and breaking our youngsters to play in fear for the rest of their careers.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: cookie2 on April 06, 2017, 03:11:28 pm
But where will we get them from Cookie?   ;)

I know.................ah well we can dream.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: cookie2 on April 06, 2017, 03:13:36 pm
Actually, I think that most of our new blokes enjoy "flying the flag".  They just need some big, mature bodies in there with them.

Come to think of it SPS and Pickett look like they could become handy at close quarters?
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Baggers on April 06, 2017, 06:04:47 pm
Come to think of it SPS and Pickett look like they could become handy at close quarters?

Wish we could magically squirt 30 games of experience into those two... yes, I know, patience...
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 06, 2017, 06:33:29 pm
IN
Sam Kerridge, Harry McKay, Rhys Palmer, Tom Williamson
OUT
Dennis Armfield (Omitted)
NEW
Harry McKay, Rhys Palmer, Tom Williamson
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: BluePhantom on April 06, 2017, 06:39:50 pm
How far is Kerr away? Months or years?
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 06, 2017, 06:42:41 pm
IN
Sam Kerridge, Harry McKay, Rhys Palmer, Tom Williamson
OUT
Dennis Armfield (Omitted)
NEW
Harry McKay, Rhys Palmer, Tom Williamson
PS Tommy W was my smokie to become a ripper, there's something special about him I reckon. Big engine, good size and most importantly, an old fashioned footballer. Good luck if you get in the 22 son.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Jack Burton on April 06, 2017, 06:46:36 pm
IN
Sam Kerridge, Harry McKay, Rhys Palmer, Tom Williamson
OUT
Dennis Armfield (Omitted)
NEW
Harry McKay, Rhys Palmer, Tom Williamson
Looks like Palmer for Armfield, fair enough. If Rowe doesn't come up they must be thinking McKay forward, Weitering to defense. If Cripps doesn't come up, Williamson??
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 06, 2017, 06:49:09 pm
Looks like Palmer for Armfield, fair enough. If Rowe doesn't come up they must be thinking McKay forward, Weitering to defense. If Cripps doesn't come up, Williamson??
That about sums it up JB
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: DJC on April 06, 2017, 07:36:54 pm
How far is Kerr away? Months or years?

I was impressed with Kerr in the practice match against the Tigers.  He knows how to play and has the physical attributes to be a KPP.  He doesn't mind a bit of rough stuff either  :)

However, he's a long term prospect and I'd be very surprised if he gets a call up this year.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 06, 2017, 08:45:34 pm
If I was Murphy I'd be wearing the helmet this week...going to get his old mate Heath Hocking for company IMO....
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 06, 2017, 08:47:05 pm
That about sums it up JB

Reckon Kerridge for Cripps....Rowe will play IMo...
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: BluePhantom on April 06, 2017, 09:06:04 pm
I was impressed with Kerr in the practice match against the Tigers.  He knows how to play and has the physical attributes to be a KPP.  He doesn't mind a bit of rough stuff either  :)

However, he's a long term prospect and I'd be very surprised if he gets a call up this year.

Thanks for the insight DJC, would love for him to be the real deal.  :)
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Professer E on April 06, 2017, 09:20:17 pm
If shocking, I mean Hocking, gets a run that means they must be confident as they are starting one short in the midfield.

I'd tell the group to go Mario Bortolotto on the nearest cheat if any of our blokes get sniped, line in the sand stuff for mind as I bet this mob saw how Lewis got away with it and I wouldn't be surprised if they try the same rubbish.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 07, 2017, 01:12:40 pm
Last night on TFS, they showed Dirty Dog Lewis breaking Crippas jaw and they asked the CH Goddard what he thought. He suggested that Lewis was abit stiff as he tried to punch Cripps in the shoulder but it slipped upwards. A more stupid account of events I have not heard. He then went on to say "I cant really comment on other players". DH, you just did. The point of this is that every time we play against a team Goddard plays for, I pray to God that one of our blokes sits him on his ass (legally if possible). A more self loving, bigger piece of gutter trash does not exist in the AFL.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 07, 2017, 01:24:48 pm
Last night on TFS, they showed Dirty Dog Lewis breaking Crippas jaw and they asked the CH Goddard what he thought. He suggested that Lewis was abit stiff as he tried to punch Cripps in the shoulder but it slipped upwards. A more stupid account of events I have not heard. He then went on to say "I cant really comment on other players". DH, you just did. The point of this is that every time we play against a team Goddard plays for, I pray to God that one of our blokes sits him on his ass (legally if possible). A more self loving, bigger piece of gutter trash does not exist in the AFL.

Agree...no great surprise he ended up at Essendon give the sort of Individual he is...hopefully someone cleans him up and tests his jaw with one that slipped upward from the shoulder...
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Pratty on April 07, 2017, 01:30:52 pm
Agree...no great surprise he ended up at Essendon give the sort of Individual he is...hopefully someone cleans him up and tests his jaw with one that slipped upward from the shoulder...

Yup. I'd settle for anyone, but would love a 'young pup' such as Crippa himself or Charlie Curnow to just shirt front him and take all of the air outta his lungs! Then stand over the top of him, whilst he's gazing into the sky all teary eyed, and let him know that's NO.1 for the day, with more to come!
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: cookie2 on April 07, 2017, 01:32:39 pm
Agree...no great surprise he ended up at Essendon give the sort of Individual he is...hopefully someone cleans him up and tests his jaw with one that slipped upward from the shoulder...

Yes it would be interesting to see the hardness index of BG's jaw stress tested.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 07, 2017, 02:39:29 pm
So in this very round 10 years ago, Fev kicked 8 to seal a victory resulting in our greatest ever comeback. Will history repeat? I forken hope so.
Go Blues.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 07, 2017, 02:45:49 pm
A bit of mail circulating we will have another debutant this week and its not the Big H, its the Big W.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: crashlander on April 07, 2017, 03:48:34 pm
I haven't seen the team posted - maybe I just haven't been online enough.

Carlton

B: Sam Docherty, Caleb Marchbank, Simon White.
HB: Kade Simpson, Sam Rowe, Lachie Plowman.
C: Sam Kerridge, Patrick Cripps, Ed Curnow.
HF: Dale Thomas, Jacob Weitering, Jack Silvagni.
F: Matthew Wright, Levi Casboult, Sam Petrevski-Seton.
R: Matthew Kreuzer, Bryce Gibbs, Marc Murphy.
Int: Charlie Curnow, Billie Smedts, Harry McKay, Rhys Palmer, Harrison Macreadie, Jarrod Pickett, Tom Williamson (Three to be omitted).

In: Sam Kerridge, Harry McKay, Rhys Palmer, Tom Williamson.

Out: Dennis Armfield (Omitted)

New: Harry McKay, Rhys Palmer, Tom Williamson

It appears that Kerridge is definitely in. Not sure about any of the others. There has been mail that Williamson may debut. I guess we shall see,


Essendon

B: Mark Baguley, Michael Hurley, Brent Stanton.
HB: Brendon Goddard, Patrick Ambrose, James Kelly
C: Travis Colyer, Dyson Heppell, Orazio Fantasia
HF: Mitch Brown, Cale Hooker, David Zaharakis.
F: Zach Merrett, Joe Daniher, Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti
R: Matthew Leuenberger, Jobe Watson, Heath Hocking
Int: Andrew McGrath, Darcy Parish, Martin Gleeson, James Stewart, Kyle Langford, Shaun McKernan, Matt Dea (Three to be omitted)
 
They brought in Leuenberger to play against Kreuzer. Leuenberger's extra height helped him beat Kreuzer last year. Also The scums 'no names' usually play well against us.
 
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: bigblue on April 07, 2017, 05:11:08 pm
Kerrige and Williamson in.
Armfield Smedts out.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: bigblue on April 07, 2017, 05:12:19 pm
Didnt think Smedts was too bad last week actually :o :o
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Jack Burton on April 07, 2017, 05:29:39 pm
Hard to see how Kerridge or Williamson get a game ahead of Smedts? Maybe he is sore?
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: DJC on April 07, 2017, 05:30:42 pm
A bit of mail circulating we will have another debutant this week and its not the Big H, its the Big W.

Good mail G2C!

I'm a little surprised at Smedts being omitted but good on young Tom for breaking into the team for his first game.

Another debutante will make it just a tad harder to win but it's good to see the young blokes getting a crack.  We must be in unusual territory in terms of the number of debutantes and/or players with less than 10 games.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Baggers on April 07, 2017, 05:52:05 pm
Wrapped to see young Williamson get a gig... has footy smarts.

Little surprised that Smedts was dropped but he does seem a half yard off the pace, no doubt due to being out of the game with injury for so long. Would have played Palmer ahead of Kerridge, but that's how it goes.

If there're any concerns re Rowe then Weits can go back and Harry gets a gig, likewise if Crippa doesn't come up then Palmer gets a gig. We'll know around 2pm tomorrow arvo!!
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: PaulP on April 07, 2017, 06:04:23 pm
Also surprised by Smedts' omission. One of the few on our list with half decent disposal and decision making. 
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 07, 2017, 06:08:08 pm
Also surprised by Smedts' omission. One of the few on our list with half decent disposal and decision making.
Thats perhaps what we see, coach sees it different obviously. TW has obviously done something right and fits a need. Good on him and good luck. I have a feeling we wont be dissappointed.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: cookie2 on April 07, 2017, 06:12:51 pm
Also surprised by Smedts' omission. One of the few on our list with half decent disposal and decision making.

Smedts is likely seen as a non strategic player who is there purely to facilitate the development of others who are seen as the future. The primary focus is obviously on development for this year.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: crashlander on April 07, 2017, 06:28:04 pm
Didnt think Smedts was too bad last week actually :o :o
Nor I. I thought he was quite reasonable. Even Armfield, who has struggled this year, played an excellent 3rd quarter last week.
Smedts will be back pretty soon, I think.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: PaulP on April 07, 2017, 06:49:32 pm
Thats perhaps what we see, coach sees it different obviously. TW has obviously done something right and fits a need. Good on him and good luck. I have a feeling we wont be dissappointed.

The Match Committee may have any number of reasons for selecting / dropping players. I wish Tom all the best. I've not seen him play, but the description on the CFC website say he's a defender / mid, with speed.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: kruddler on April 07, 2017, 07:10:22 pm
The Match Committee may have any number of reasons for selecting / dropping players. I wish Tom all the best. I've not seen him play, but the description on the CFC website say he's a defender / mid, with speed.

Agree.

Could be little niggles. Or pre-arranged games.

Smedts is a lot bit older than Williamson, but potentially is giving us less than what Kerridge would. Play a kid, but partner that with a more mature body.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: townsendcalling on April 07, 2017, 09:03:33 pm
What chance Palmer for Cripps??
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LoveNavy on April 07, 2017, 09:36:31 pm
So in this very round 10 years ago, Fev kicked 8 to seal a victory resulting in our greatest ever comeback. Will history repeat? I forken hope so.
Go Blues.

Sounds like a dream come true. Please don't wake me up :))
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: crazyjoedevolamk11 on April 07, 2017, 09:49:39 pm
Charlie ain't looked like it yet, better extract the digit this week or back to the magoos you go buddy....intensity = 0
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LoveNavy on April 07, 2017, 09:55:44 pm
What chance Palmer for Cripps??

My guess - if at the last minute Crippa doesn't get up. Palmer will play.

Go Blues
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: madbluboy on April 07, 2017, 11:09:52 pm
John ralph just tried to say we traded Tuohy for Smedts and we've already dropped Smedts.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 08, 2017, 12:39:46 am
Selections are strange IMO...I would have kept Smedts in as he hasnt been too bad and can at least look after the ball, Palmer should have played and still might,  and while I like Williamson I thought we could have waited another week to introduce him into the team in what is an easier game vs GC.
Charlie Curnow is very lucky to have kept his spot in the team IMO and owes us a good game....
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 08, 2017, 12:41:36 am
John ralph just tried to say we traded Tuohy for Smedts and we've already dropped Smedts.

I guess that ignorant comparison was always going to be made.....Smedts like I said is unlucky to be dropped....
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: sandsmere on April 08, 2017, 05:04:01 am
Selections are strange IMO...I would have kept Smedts in as he hasnt been too bad and can at least look after the ball, Palmer should have played and still might,  and while I like Williamson I thought we could have waited another week to introduce him into the team in what is an easier game vs GC.
Charlie Curnow is very lucky to have kept his spot in the team IMO and owes us a good game....


All of the above.

Four first year players  plus 3 second year players .

Cheats by a huge margin.  >:(
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: flyboy77 on April 08, 2017, 08:53:02 am

All of the above.

Four first year players  plus 3 second year players .

Cheats by a huge margin.  >:(

not if there's 2 inches of rain!!

Blues by 16.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: IvanAwfulbigone on April 08, 2017, 05:31:29 pm
Just hope Weits doesn't cork a calf/thigh/hip in the opening passage of play.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Baggers on April 08, 2017, 05:42:27 pm
With a wet MCG predicted for tomorrow and factoring in C. Curnow's average efforts this year and that his strength is marking and if Crippa is okay... you'd be tempted to bring in Palmer for C. Curnow on the wet deck.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Rational_Expectations on April 08, 2017, 06:22:41 pm
With a wet MCG predicted for tomorrow and factoring in C. Curnow's average efforts this year and that his strength is marking and if Crippa is okay... you'd be tempted to bring in Palmer for C. Curnow on the wet deck.

I agree with the logic, but think Bolton will back the young bloke in.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LP on April 09, 2017, 06:49:24 am
Won't be surprised to find the indigenous kids are quiet today.There is no chance that they have experienced conditions like today!
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Lods on April 09, 2017, 08:23:06 am
Won't be surprised to find the indigenous kids are quiet today.There is no chance that they have experienced conditions like today!

Rain?

I'm sure they've seen it!

Quote
That's probably because Petrevski-Seton knows most of them on a first-name basis. His family lives at "the bottom end of town", near where the garden area creek runs. But his neighbours are also family – uncles and cousins are scattered around town. When he was younger, there was an open-door policy in Halls Creek and Petrevski-Seton would casually hop from place to place finding things to do.

After school he would often gather with friends and go searching for birds to hunt in the bush. In wet season when the creeks fill up, they'd go swimming or walk up stream to the nearby bridge, jump on a big tube and float back towards home. Petrevski-Seton liked the rain; it created mud, which he loved to flick up on his mates while they rode their dirt bikes or even play mud fights.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: BluePhantom on April 09, 2017, 08:27:16 am
After seeing a young Freo get over the Dogs maybe we should do what the AFL world would not expect a Carlton side to do.
Go all out attack....just thinking ::) ::) ::) ::) :o
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: DJC on April 09, 2017, 08:35:39 am
Won't be surprised to find the indigenous kids are quiet today.There is no chance that they have experienced conditions like today!

Today's conditions are relatively mild compared to what you can get in the East Kimberley and the NEAFL region.  Perth cops its share of wet and wild conditions too.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: sandsmere on April 09, 2017, 09:03:47 am
Just heard Charlie missed the last training session. I reckon he might not play.

Nothing definite though.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LP on April 09, 2017, 09:36:19 am
Today's conditions are relatively mild compared to what you can get in the East Kimberley and the NEAFL region.  Perth cops its share of wet and wild conditions too.

I'm not sure if it has ever been 12°C and 80mm when playing footy in WA!

Williamson should be right at home though! ;)
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: crazyjoedevolamk11 on April 09, 2017, 09:58:57 am
Won't be surprised to find the indigenous kids are quiet today.There is no chance that they have experienced conditions like today!
Great...that will take Tip-In-Woody right out of it ;)
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 09, 2017, 10:43:55 am
Great...that will take Tip-In-Woody right out of it ;)
Take abit more than some rain and cold weather to stop that little dynamo, he's a ripper. One of the most improved players in the comp over the last 2 years. Breaks my heart to say that, wish we had him.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: DJC on April 09, 2017, 11:00:36 am
I'm not sure if it has ever been 12°C and 80mm when playing footy in WA!

Williamson should be right at home though! ;)

That's relatively mild compared to the conditions I experienced on the Canning Stock Route in May 2015.  That weather pattern covered from Derby to Kalbarri and turned footy grounds into very wet and cold places.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 09, 2017, 11:13:40 am
Mark Stevens on Ch7 reckons he rang Carton today and Rowe & Cripps will play.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: laj on April 09, 2017, 12:16:13 pm
Just heard Charlie missed the last training session. I reckon he might not play.

Nothing definite though.

Heard a possible hammy strain to be replaced by Palmer.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Jeffy38 on April 09, 2017, 01:54:18 pm
Confirmed. Curnow out for palmer.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LoveNavy on April 09, 2017, 02:25:49 pm
Charlie out with quad. Palmer in.
I was hoping Palmer was in. Now hope he brings the hardness and sneaky goals he's known for.

Go young Blues
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 09, 2017, 02:31:45 pm
Charlie out with quad. Palmer in.
I was hoping Palmer was in. Now hope he brings the hardness and sneaky goals he's known for.

Go young Blues
Well to be honest, he has been a passenger for 2 weeks. I understand he is young and we must expose them to the big stage but surely Palmer will give us more today than CC has (or would have).
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: cookie2 on April 09, 2017, 02:39:10 pm
Well to be honest, he has been a passenger for 2 weeks. I understand he is young and we must expose them to the big stage but surely Palmer will give us more today than CC has (or would have).

Agree. This may prove to be a good move.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LoveNavy on April 09, 2017, 02:42:16 pm
Agree GIC
Charlie has looked lacklustre in the first 2. No idea why of course, could be any number of issues. Although I prefer our youngsters get games, it must be tempered with what's in their best at that point. If it's health of body or mind, a rest seems appropriate. A stint in the two's might be what he needs as well.
Regardless, hope Palmer has a cracker and sneaks in a couple. More importantly, hope he keeps the baby Blues from the injectables... aka thugs ::)
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: PaulP on April 09, 2017, 03:05:04 pm
Hey mods, can you unlock the in-game and post game threads please ?
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: LoveNavy on April 09, 2017, 03:10:00 pm
@ Paul. Like your new jovial look.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Lods on April 09, 2017, 03:10:45 pm
Hey mods, can you unlock the in-game and post game threads please ?

The "in game" yep....
The post game...we'll do after it ends.... otherwise we'll have folks posting in all three all afternoon
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: PaulP on April 09, 2017, 03:18:35 pm
The "in game" yep....
The post game...we'll do after it ends.... otherwise we'll have folks posting in all three all afternoon

Thanks Lods.

One advantage someone like Crash has is they can start these threads days in advance, and then he can lock it because he's a mod. Obviously, those of us in the "poor suffering slobs" category don't have this power.

Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: PaulP on April 09, 2017, 03:21:35 pm
@ Paul. Like your new jovial look.

Thanks LN. I'm in the middle of one of my regularly occurring identity crises, so I dare say it won't last long.
Title: Re: 2017 Round 3 : Pre Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon
Post by: Lods on April 09, 2017, 03:22:11 pm
Thanks Lods.

One advantage someone like Crash has is they can start these threads days in advance, and then he can lock it because he's a mod. Obviously, those of us in the "poor suffering slobs" category don't have this power.

I'm not sure we shouldn't leave starting them until the actual event...I wouldn't have remembered to unlock the "in game" if you hadn't reminded me. As it is there's a lot of a preamble now in it days in advance.