Go back and watch the replay, Walsh is basically in a bear hug every other stoppage with arms around his waist, nada, nothing, nought!
Fans want to whack Williams, but what he did players do all the time and do not get pinged. The willingness of fans to throw rocks at Williams goes back to when he signed on, fans bitched and moaned about the dollars, but that is not Williams fault, much like it wasn't the fault of Martin or McGovern before him. But the dollars put him in the sh1thouse with many fans forever more with the dollars equating to tall poppy syndrome!
Then you have the intentional out of bounds, our bloke gets pinged for a kick off the side of the boot, Pendlebury kicks it 50m almost directly sideways in the dying moments and gets away with it.
These are game changing moments caused by officials not good play by an opponent.
I get our club doesn't want to be seen as whinging, but if they are raising these issues in a very public way it's never going to go our way. The privacy does nothing, we need the AFL giving fans a public explanation. When the AFL officials get sick of making up excuses, the errors will diminish.
I dont need to watch anything, I saw it the first time.
Got a few big heads drinking their own bathwater and forgetting about doing the hard stuff hoping stalwarts Cripps, Weitering etc will save the day. We lost the clearances to a depleted Pies midfield ...that should never , never happen if we want to win the big games.
Agree.....the Voss reaction with Cerra on the boundary shows he isnt happy and Id expect a few home truths and back to basics football vs Melbourne with defense ,manning up as a priority and sticking to the game plan.
Its not panic stations yet but we need to beat the Colls, the Geels, etc. Right now with Freo beating Rich, we are sitting 8th.
Geelong are posers we should have won that game last week if it wasn't for meek defensive efforts from the usual suspects - giving away goals like lollies.
Better defensively against the Filth and Gov is coming back which will settle and reinforce the defence a little bit more.
Right this very minute, I say we are the posers and better rectify it quickly if we want to contend.
That's how it's umpired, paying the Elliott frees is fair enough but Harry got nothing for the same holding treatment down the other end and I think that's what's irking a few fans .
Not paying the ones to Harry doesnt make the Elliot ones not there. Point is he panicked everytime the ball csme to them
Elliott engages his opponent to push off and create separation. They grab each other. Ump sees it pays a free kick. Watch every single duel and tell me that they aren't all identical. I watched Rhys Stanley do similar to Max gawn (and arguably worse) and it was play on.
The subjective nature here is what the problem is. They ping Williams twice and then don't pay another free like it until mason Cox gets a bit of the same.
That equated to about 3 goals. There was also the cripps handball paid holding the ball and then the jack crisp "drop" handball that was paid play on.
These things are a frequent occurrence, and I don't really debate the action I debate the consistency. It's a free in our defensive 50 but you won't find a similar free for essentially the same action in our forward 50. Why?
The blocks that occur that take walsh off daicos and at other times cowan off Elliott.
They're not illegal. Their blokes get on the bike and run around others who are there to hold illegally but no one cares about those holds.
He put his arms around him, once you do that youre gone.
who Melbourne or Geelong? Had Cameron kicked like last week Geelong would have won.
What Melbourne didn't do is attack the ball carrier leaving players free in defensive 50. They worked backwards to cover options which artificially creates panic and makes players kick longer to a contest.
We didn't change this against Geelong until it was far too late, and paid dearly for it.
Lever and May will just gobble up our bombs into the fwd line.
Williams coped two umpiring clangers early and fans spent the next four quarters blaming him for everything, he wasn't that bad.
Walsh left Daicos free unchecked in F50 in the critical game ending final moment, and fans are silent!
He gave away 2 or 3 frees for holding plain and simple, his opponents had him bluffed. Not a defenders a-hole. I called out Walsh immediately and will continue to.
I don't expect to win but I expect a lot of improvement in work rate, selection, and on field set up. A case of "how we play" (process) moreso than the results.
To be fair Prof, we did a lot well vs the Filth considering the limited I50s and only lost by 6 points as a result of a brain fade at a stoppage.
I lived in a house of serious domestic violence for 22 years. I would love to tell people what I experienced but some might not want to hear the reality of what takes place. How it has a long term effect on children. I am happy to tell the story if people want to hear it first hand. How it was resolved after a further 25 years later.
I am sorry for what you had to experience Mantis. I personally think stories need to be told (as horrific as they might be) so people who live in a sheltered world (like me) can be horrified into understanding domestic violence and help in eradicating it.
The manner in which Daicos senior carried on after the goal lacked a bit of class.
I was hoping he would fall out the window actually. He carries on like a pork chop when he is on the sauce, one day he is going to give the wrong bloke the craps and get a smack in the head and everyone will wonder why.
There are plenty of small problem Charlie Curnows contested posession rate is over 60% for a key forward it needs to be under 50%. So he is working way too hard to win his posessions... thats down to various things - not giving him space to lead into and contesting ground balls which is not his job but has to go for them as small forwards are no where near it. Lack of run and covering the ground. Filth always had 2-3 players tackling one Blue we did not reciprocate because we didnt have the team composition to cover the ground.
For a bloke who is meant to be an aerobic beast, he doesn't get on his bike much in an attempt to run his opponent ragged (or lay a tackle heaven forebid).
Out coached is interesting. I cant really take it when you lose by a goal and the scores were level with 2 minutes left.
Do you get outcoached in that circumstance? Pues had extra rest too after anzac day. The second quarter was our worst and where we let the game slip but our handballs and errant kicking had more to do with it than being out coached.
Irrespective of what we say we played last seasons premiers who have started hitting their stride recently. It had danger game written all ober it from the get go.
Ok Ill call a spade a spade and shoot Bambi, Walsh either fell asleep or had the wrong mindset at that stoppage. With the scores level and close to their goal, a defensive mindset had to be first and foremost. We let that happen too many times on the night, the last one was costly.
The persistent problem we have, and which seems to have no solution, is that too many of our good senior players are physically fragile and are unavailable for selection for long periods of time, making it impossible to have a cohesive unit.
On the rare occasions when most of them do play on the same day we are given a glimpse of what is possible. Then the injuries start again.
Unfortunately it is possible that where we are now on the ladder is as good as it gets with this list.
Spot on Macca, as soon as we get some back, they drop like flies again, and by that I mean the usual suspects.
