I will be at this game, so have fun with this thread. Hopefully we can be more impressive than last week.
By the way, I named this week's threads with the type (in game, post game, etc.) first, so that it would be easier to identify Do you like it this way?
FFS how many times does Gibbs just let go of the ball when under pressure?
tunnelling? Nope.
I will be at this game, so have fun with this thread. Hopefully we can be more impressive than last week.
By the way, I named this week's threads with the type (in game, post game, etc.) first, so that it would be easier to identify Do you like it this way?
Makes it easy to see the main bits of the thread title in the scroll bar. Nice work. Thanks
Fun fact....
The 5 players we got in for trading away Troy Menzel are all playing tonight.
Menzel -> Pick 28+Kerridge
Pick 28 -> Phillips, Sumner, Lamb and Plowman
Incidentally, Menzel isn't playing at the Crows at the moment.
Best 5 for 1 trade ever.
Fork me we are lucky we picked up Wright.
Brilliant kick by Curnow to set up the goal.
BP -> goal square
Good team goal to get things moving.
Curnowfides!
Signs good
The umpires could at least take us out to dinner first if they want to screw us his much
Free kicks to them 9-4!
Old Carlton players.... not so good. :(
New Carlton players..very promising :D
Footscray's field kicking is light years ahead of ours.
11 touches combined from Gibbs Murphy Cripps and Thomas
Bit of talent in that group.
Weitering on the other hand.
As usual our ball movement is slow motion. Who'd be a key forward at Carlton. Jakasch and Jones will beg to stay in the NBs where there's some speed of delivery...lol.
Levi did something different...he kicked it out on the full!
Is there an umpire's conspiracy against our club?
Unfortunately our key issue is being highlighted again, no natural goal kickers, really in the game, winning the stats , but no no conversations on the scoreboard
Seriously, what have we done to annoy the umpires tonight? :o
Rowe! Why!!!
This is getting ugly... were are our rucks and mids?
is murphy playing?
Unfortunately our key issue is being highlighted again, no natural goal kickers, really in the game, winning the stats , but no no conversations on the scoreboard
So far as I can tell, we're winning the marks Inside 50 and the hit outs. Everything else the Doggies way.
Is they anyone at the club that can teach us a genuine, modern running game. You can't win without one. You can barely score without one.
Fkn free kicks to them 14-4!
Take Rowe off and to be stamped never ever to play again
Ciaran Byrne and Charlie Curnow the only upsides in this disaster, unless Footscray take their foot off the pedal this will be a shellacking.
Has Plowman or Sumner even touched it tonight?
The best kind of pressure is scoreboard pressure.
Until we can get our blokes to kick some goals, and that definitely includes the lump wearing #41, we are going nowhere.
7-0 free kick count this quarter with 4 minutes remaining. We are the zero.
WAFL sides are fitter than this side
Had no trouble kicking goals a few seasons back. Apparently we needed to work on our defense.
we need to stop giving away stupid free kicks
I'm prepared to cut Plowman and Sumner some slack because it's their first week back and they're under done.
As for the likes of Gibbs, Thomas et al. they can F right off. They ran out of excuses long ago. Not fit enough. Not committed enough. Not good enough.
All I want to see is a proper running game. Get ahead of the ball, create space. We'd kick a few more goals and make skills easier in space. We'd cough up a few the other way but I prefer to lose a high scorer than this stagnant horrible crap!!! First thing a side should bee taught, then blend the rest of it in as we develop. What we have now is pure compete and utter crap.
The best kind of pressure is scoreboard pressure.
Until we can get our blokes to kick some goals, and that definitely includes the lump wearing #41, we are going nowhere.
7-0 free kick count this quarter with 4 minutes remaining. We are the zero.
Don't think we can completely blame the forwards for this. It has to get near them first. Then it has to get near them in a way that isn't a meaningless long bomb to 3 on 1 contest.
Of course kicking goals on the rare occasions we have a shot wouldn't hurt.
Great to see Byrne making his mark, C Currnow has show bit for the future, but will take time. Unfortunate about McKay think he would have been out there as well. Some nice signs , but picked up to many second rate players in one hit, will slow down the development
Cripps is having a shocker. Gibbs is playing at half pace. Rowe lacks the grit needed by a KDP.
Turnovers!!!!!!!
Weiters is all class. Charlies having a dip.
we need to stop giving away stupid free kicks
Actually I think the umpires need to stop giving stupid free kicks. We're clearly the lesser team tonight anyway, the dogs don't need any additional help.
If Cripps is injured, give him a rest.
If Gibbs is going at half rat power, drop him.
I'm at the game and this is utter crape.
Mick is coaching tonight. Identical to early last year.
No system going forward and refusing to move the ball early even when there's space if it means going inboard. What hope do we give kicking a half reasonable score when we constantly go to the boundary.
Gibbs and Murphy are finished. Will never amount to anything.
Don't think we can completely blame the forwards for this. It has to get near them first. Then it has to get near them in a way that isn't a meaningless long bomb to 3 on 1 contest.
Of course kicking goals on the rare occasions we have a shot wouldn't hurt.
Like I said, Jaksch and Jones will literally beg to stay in the NBs where the ball properly comes into the 50...lol. Like who'd want be be a forward at Carlton.
Actually I think the umpires need to stop giving stupid free kicks. We're clearly the lesser team tonight anyway, the dogs don't need any additional help.
In terms of player development the umps may actually be doing us a favor and teaching our kids how to play smarter.
In terms of player development the umps may actually be doing us a favor and teaching our kids how to play smarter.
No they're not, they're fkn cheating.
The doggies have gotten a dream umpiring run against us since ... forever.
Like I said, Jaksch and Jones will literally beg to stay in the NBs where the ball properly comes into the 50...lol. Like who'd want be be a forward at Carlton.
They need to play , we need more size up forward to stop easy marks being taken by opposition defenders.....Philips and Kruezer are next to useless down forward and Casboult get too much pressure as we have no other options...
Umpiring is woeful...
Really disappointed in Nick Graham's efforts so far this year. Should have been his break out year based on his second half of 2015. Won't be surprised if he finds himself back in the NB's if he doesn't turn things around soon.
Simply put EB, Phillips and Kreuzer ARE useless.
Really disappointed in Nick Graham's efforts so far this year. Should have been his break out year based on his second half of 2015. Won't be surprised if he finds himself back in the NB's if he doesn't turn things around soon.
Agree. The holding the ball against him was inexcusable, just stood there and waited for the whistle. Shadow of his 2015 form
The deer in headlights mentality of our players is making me sick. I don't give a crap if we lose, but at least do it standing up and take on the game. Don't just get the ball and in panic kick it forward. It always comes back with dividends.
Cripps is having a shocker, but frankly he should still be developing and not leading. Where the fug is Murphy and Gibbs?
Weitering is an out and out champion. Charlie Curnow is also fantastic. Plowman has been good. Byrne has had moments, except for a horrid turnover.
Philips is a waste of space. Had hopes for him, now dashed. Kerridge is great in and under but coughs it up Mitch Robinson and Tom Bell style too often. Feel for Sumner, clearly not fit enough yet.
You can't make a purse out off a pigs ear, we don't have the cattle in many area's , we will continue to sift through for the next few years add a few players each year, and hope a few stick and create a place for them selves. Unfortunately with this process unless you make the correct decisions on a regular basis , you can just keep sifting for many years without any real guarantee . With so many inexperienced players it can be a slow process
Simply put EB, Phillips and Kreuzer ARE useless.
Yes.
They need to play , we need more size up forward to stop easy marks being taken by opposition defenders.....Philips and Kruezer are next to useless down forward and Casboult get too much pressure as we have no other options...
Umpiring is woeful...
Yes, I think so too.
Actually, select Jones and Jaksch, drop Kreuzer and Phillips and let Casboult ruck all day. Mightn't win many tapouts but he'll take a crapload of marks well away from goal range. I am half joking there of course but we need to do something.
Agree. The holding the ball against him was inexcusable, just stood there and waited for the whistle. Shadow of his 2015 form
What was he trying to achieve. Fool the umpire into thinking he'd marked a handball?
Murphy Gibbs Kreuzer
- 3 no 1 picks
- 519 games
- 19 disposals combined
Byrne C Curnow
- 4 games
- 18 disposals
Simply put EB, Phillips and Kreuzer ARE useless.
Prof...Philips tries to mark the ball with flat hands that are too rigid...has no give or feel when he attempts marks, everything just bounces off his hands...I'd rather Wood and Gorringe for while and see how they go....these two present ruck incumbents give us nothing...
Don't think we can completely blame the forwards for this. It has to get near them first. Then it has to get near them in a way that isn't a meaningless long bomb to 3 on 1 contest.
Of course kicking goals on the rare occasions we have a shot wouldn't hurt.
I'm not blaming the forwards. I'm blaming the players having shots at goals, that includes forwards but includes Gibbs as well.
If we kick those goals, we don't get ourselves into a hole we cannot climb out of.
Yes, I think so too.
Actually, select Jones and Jaksch, drop Kreuzer and Phillips and let Casboult ruck all day. Mightn't win many tapouts but he'll take a crapload of marks well away from goal range. I am half joking there of course but we need to do something.
Worth a try. We're winning the hit outs tonight and it's not doing much anyway.
Murphy Gibbs Kreuzer
- 3 no 1 picks
- 519 games
- 19 disposals combined
Byrne C Curnow
- 4 games
- 18 disposals
Very sad reading there JC hard to disagree with
I'm not blaming the forwards. I'm blaming the players having shots at goals, that includes forwards but includes Gibbs as well.
If we kick those goals, we don't get ourselves into a hole we cannot climb out of.
I'm understanding your frustrations....lol.
Philips marks...hooray...
New style modern game or not , I am so SICK of seeing no players in our forward 50 when we break. How are we suppose to win? It's basic....
I welcome the jumper punches
Courageous..... Welcome Liam Sumner.
Bugger all tackles according to the stats... what gives?
Two goal quarter - our best of the year!
Weitering can grow into our general in our back half , but we desperately need similar in the forward half. If we can find that , it brings other players into the game
Like I said, Jaksch and Jones will literally beg to stay in the NBs where the ball properly comes into the 50...lol. Like who'd want be be a forward at Carlton.
Thought exactly the same thing without the lol... it really is that bad...
Good to see some angst from Levi, seems to bring out his best. Gee we need Sav back to teach him to kick , worked last year what happened? Anyone know?
Out: Casboult (labotomy)
Casboult = total liability.
If he kicked the goals he would be such asset , fine line
Out: Casboult (labotomy)
He marks it well but his head is so shot that he can't even kick them from 50 now. He used to be good on the long shot but can't even do that now.
Just put him in the ruck next week.
Murphy finally goes in hard, gets smashed in the head and no call from the umpires. Yet every time a dog ducks into one it's called immediately >:(
ALERT..... Gibbs > goal
Crushed under the pressure of being the only bloke above 6' 3" who is capable of taking a mark in the front half of the ground.... and expected to be the lone ranger every week.
I want to know WTF are our midfielders... Kreuzer has a pathetic hits to advantage ratio but the mids have not given a yelp.
FKKKKK! Can anyone kick at goal?????
At least something we did tonight was too hard and fast
At least something we did tonight was too hard and fast
Lol pay that
Philips stays, Kreuzer goes
Philips stays, Kreuzer goes
As long as head locks murphy and Gibbs and takes them with him
Cripps v Bont - Crippa wins that one.
Go Blues
Yep, it's official, the worst side of 2016 is the Carlton Football Club.
Daisy Thomas... the worst recruit since John Pitura.
John Pitura was my ex boss please don't bring that name up again
I knew one of us old timers would get the reference.
I knew one of us old timers would get the reference.
Feeling old watching this
Dogs have stopped big time if we actually had forwards we would be a chance here strange as that sounds
Curnowfides shows some more magic.
Man, Burn coming off second best tonight. Another bonk to the conk
Curnowfides shows some more magic.
Do we dare to dream????
Sorry, can you please translate that into English... I'm not hip with you young people.
Fkkk Kreuzer.
Curnowfides shows some more magic.
So exciting.
Casboult plays so much better away from goal.
Arrrggghhh Phillips.
Have the doggies got 18 fit players?
Another injury for the doggies
How can Kreuzer not make the distance.
If only we could use thee ball and kick at goal, we'd be right in it.
Casboult plays so much better away from goal.
Thank you... yes, he's ruckman...
Fkkkkk now Buckley. We simply arent good enough.
Buckley, all name no game!
It's been giftwrapped and we still cant take it. Where are our leaders FFS.
Curnowfides shows some more magic.
And he brings some more. Go Charlie
How can Kreuzer not make the distance.
If only we could use thee ball and kick at goal, we'd be right in it.
We'd be 10 goals up.
Kreuzer x2
Casboult x2
Cripps x2
Gibbs
There are more...
Fkkkkk now Buckley. We simply arent good enough.
That's about the size of it , intent is there , but not the class
Thank you... yes, he's ruckman...
He's been certainly good away from goal.
Thank you... yes, he's ruckman...
A very average ruckmen.
Buckley, all name no game!
Sadly, yes.
We'd be 10 goals up.
Kreuzer x2
Casboult x2
Cripps x2
Gibbs
There are more...
Next week I have Jaksch and Jones in and Casboult ruck. The first two can kick at goal and Casboult becomes twice the player away from goal. He'll take marks at least as the rest of our rucks are bloody useless right now. Nothing to lose.
Who has stood Stringer?
Who has stood Stringer?
Our very own Package?
Well, wasn't that sh1t.
The Plow package...
Mr Plow!
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Well, wasn't that sh1t.
Actually no it wasn't. Better than the last two, if Buckley and Krooz took their chances then it could have been interesting.
Plenty to like in sumner, lamb, plow, weiters, doc.
Would kill for Tomlinson. We'd possibly have won two by now
I'll swim against the tide here and say that Phillips will make the grade, don't forget he's played under 20 games and for a ruckman he's only a baby.
There's a long way to go but if we work hard and make good decisions we'll get there.
Docherty our best tonight I reckon, he's a jet.
I'll swim against the tide here and say that Phillips will make the grade, don't forget he's played under 20 games and for a ruckman he's only a baby.
There's a long way to go but if we work hard and make good decisions we'll get there.
Docherty our best tonight I reckon, he's a jet.
Gutsy call. I like it.
Next week I have Jaksch and Jones in and Casboult ruck. The first two can kick at goal and Casboult becomes twice the player away from goal. He'll take marks at least as the rest of our rucks are bloody useless right now. Nothing to lose.
You can have that but Phillips probably played the better game than Kreuzer tonight.
Kreuzer had 11 touches, only 2 were to our advantage (DE 18%!)
Phillips only had 6 touches, but 4 were to our advantage (DE 67%)
Kreuzer missed 2 shots, only scored 1 behind
Phillips had 1 shot and kicked it.
Phillips had more tackles, contested marks and 1%ers and had less clangers 1 to 4 by kreuzer.
They had the same amount of marks and tackles.
Kreuzer won hitouts 24 to phillips 21 and had 1 clearance and 2 I50's to Phillips none.
Both have a lot of work to do.
1 was a former #1 pick.
The other is a bloke thrown in from a package deal.
Don't sell Phillips short.
I'll swim against the tide here and say that Phillips will make the grade, don't forget he's played under 20 games and for a ruckman he's only a baby.
There's a long way to go but if we work hard and make good decisions we'll get there.
While i was getting some stats, you must have read my mind. ;)
You can have that but Phillips probably played the better game than Kreuzer tonight.
Kreuzer had 11 touches, only 2 were to our advantage (DE 18%!)
Phillips only had 6 touches, but 4 were to our advantage (DE 67%)
Kreuzer missed 2 shots, only scored 1 behind
Phillips had 1 shot and kicked it.
Phillips had more tackles, contested marks and 1%ers and had less clangers 1 to 4 by kreuzer.
They had the same amount of marks and tackles.
Kreuzer won hitouts 24 to phillips 21 and had 1 clearance and 2 I50's to Phillips none.
Both have a lot of work to do.
1 was a former #1 pick.
The other is a bloke thrown in from a package deal.
Don't sell Phillips short.
In addition, Philips took contested marks
You can have that but Phillips probably played the better game than Kreuzer tonight.
Kreuzer had 11 touches, only 2 were to our advantage (DE 18%!)
Phillips only had 6 touches, but 4 were to our advantage (DE 67%)
Kreuzer missed 2 shots, only scored 1 behind
Phillips had 1 shot and kicked it.
Phillips had more tackles, contested marks and 1%ers and had less clangers 1 to 4 by kreuzer.
They had the same amount of marks and tackles.
Kreuzer won hitouts 24 to phillips 21 and had 1 clearance and 2 I50's to Phillips none.
Both have a lot of work to do.
1 was a former #1 pick.
The other is a bloke thrown in from a package deal.
Don't sell Phillips short.
Phillips did get better as the game went on.
Let Casboult takes Rowe's spot in defence, Jaksch and Jones in, Wood in for Kreuzer. Wood generally gives you something for his ability. Kreuzer is just terrible right now.
Rowe is awful right now.
In addition, Philips took contested marks
I did write that in the post. ;)
@jimbo
Let Jaksch take rowes spot in defense. Put Jones up forward with Casboult. Keep Phillips and Kreuzer for another week.