Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: Gointocarlton on March 28, 2014, 09:42:38 am

Quote from: Koutz on March 28, 2014, 08:16:27 am

A few positives to come out of last night. Buckley was fantastic for his second game, I almost certain Yarran will now become a star and we started to look more like a footy team in the second half something that I couldn't see in the port game or in the first half.

Put walker, armfield, Judd, Kruezer, Scotland, carazzo and to some extent Doherty and we are 50% better side.

Agree with this to some extent. We need more pace and Army will definitely give us this and some mongrel if nothing else. We need to weed out the imbeciles who cant kick one by one or two by two if necessary. If they haven't learnt by now they never will. It is the single most important factor that costs us the majority of our games. HS reports 36 turnovers, none more telling than Warnock to Vickory in the goal square for a gift of a goal. Add another half a dozen odd shots at goal that went out on the full? Deplorable.

I remember some years back David Parkin talking about the evolution of our game. He mentioned that right across the board, skills had improved - hand balling, tackling, running patterns,etc. you name it. Except goal kicking. The one area he said will probably never improve. If there's anyone out there who knows about the mechanics of goal kicking, I'd love to hear from them. The margin for error must be miniscule.

Improve !  Never mind improve, it's gone backwards at a great rate of knots......Earl Spaulding would have kicked a fair chunk of those set shots.....not to mention the likes of Diesel, Braddles, or Campo.

re: Gibbs vs Ellis... I would have sent Gibbs to FF...evacuated the FF line and left Gibbs one out vs Ellis and told him to lead hard.
Richmond do it with Martin...leave him one out with an acre to work in..sometimes Mick doesnt think outside the square often enough IMO...

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on March 28, 2014, 04:08:43 pm

re: Gibbs vs Ellis... I would have sent Gibbs to FF...evacuated the FF line and left Gibbs one out vs Ellis and told him to lead hard.
Richmond do it with Martin...leave him one out with an acre to work in..sometimes Mick doesnt think outside the square often enough IMO...

Think it was Martin playing in that situation who out-bodied 2E to kick the sealer.

Quote from: cookie2 on March 28, 2014, 04:13:37 pm

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on March 28, 2014, 04:08:43 pm

re: Gibbs vs Ellis... I would have sent Gibbs to FF...evacuated the FF line and left Gibbs one out vs Ellis and told him to lead hard.
Richmond do it with Martin...leave him one out with an acre to work in..sometimes Mick doesnt think outside the square often enough IMO...

Think it was Martin playing in that situation who out-bodied 2E to kick the sealer.

Tuohy on Martin was not a good match up, Martin is too agile for most defenders in the league let alone Tuohy who often turns like a ruck.

On another note, watching the replay, watch in the background. Count how many Carlton players you see standing watching the game. They have no idea where they are supposed to be or who they are playing on. That my fellow Carlton fans is a coaching problem!

Quote from: LP on March 28, 2014, 04:19:36 pm

Quote from: cookie2 on March 28, 2014, 04:13:37 pm

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on March 28, 2014, 04:08:43 pm

re: Gibbs vs Ellis... I would have sent Gibbs to FF...evacuated the FF line and left Gibbs one out vs Ellis and told him to lead hard.
Richmond do it with Martin...leave him one out with an acre to work in..sometimes Mick doesnt think outside the square often enough IMO...

Think it was Martin playing in that situation who out-bodied 2E to kick the sealer.

Tuohy on Martin was not a good match up, Martin is too agile for most defenders in the league let alone Tuohy who often turns like a ruck.

On another note, watching the replay, watch in the background. Count how many Carlton players you see standing watching the game. They have no idea where they are supposed to be or who they are playing on. That my fellow Carlton fans is a coaching problem!

Noticed exactly that at the game. One example right in front of us, Robbo I think, in our D50 looked at his man who didn't have the ball but moved towards the arc, then looked at the man with the ball and started to go towards him, stopped and the ran back towards his own man but only got within 6 or 7 meters of him. Meanwhile the man with ball passed it off to another Tiger who goaled. Meanwhile Robbo was alone in no man's land. Talk about 2 minds or going around in circles! 

I would say its a "crap for brains" problem. Player in question no brain surgeon is he?

Quote from: Gointocarlton on March 28, 2014, 04:55:18 pm

I would say its a "crap for brains" problem. Player in question no brain surgeon is he?

You wish it was just him, at one stage I glimpsed three of them arguing on the wing about who should be where while three Nthmond players stood free on the F50 arc 25m away!

In general though many players seemed to be doing the above "shuffle" as described by Cookie.

I used to to think to myself (channelling my best John Kennedy), "don't point, do"

Quote from: Gointocarlton on March 28, 2014, 04:55:18 pm

I would say its a "crap for brains" problem. Player in question no brain surgeon is he?

You wish it was just him, at one stage I glimpsed three of them arguing on the wing about who should be where while three Nthmond players stood free on the F50 arc 25m away!

In general though many players seemed to be doing the above "shuffle" as described by Cookie.

On the flipside, its a breath of fresh air that at least once a game, we are able to get a player in space, off the interchange bench as we are using that thing smarter too.