"Today is a good day to die. But the day is not yet over."
Not long to go so let's bring this thread up for the game.
I'm expecting a huge effort today.
You don't hold those type of player meetings and then not bring the effort or you look pretty poor.
Nice snap Gibbons
Kennedy's already had more touches than LOB has had all year! ;)
Umpires in good form already
How the screw is that advantage?? No screwing idea these umpires
How the screw is that advantage?? No screwing idea these umpires
dumb umpire...
Welcome back Charlie
Welcome back Charlie
Yes seems to have a little strut back
gee we struggle to make a tackle stick...
Cripps' enthusiasim to bring others into the game at times, it's always the best option, sometimes needs to kick , hand passes put others under pressure
why the f...does Marchbank kick to a 'leading' ED Curnow?!!!
Where are the tall blokes? That is bad.
It's an improvement, but the intensity is so so for mine. It's what we should bring every week just to compete.
why the f...does Marchbank kick to a 'leading' ED Curnow?!!!
Where are the tall blokes? That is bad.
You can’t fix no brains in one week.
You can’t no brains in one week.
We still make bad decisions... too many, too often.
Dunno what to make of it just yet. A few passengers
Dunno what to make of it just yet. A few passengers
We have dropped off after a good start.
All the defensive pressure and attacking run through the middle has stopped and we’re back to standing still in zones and kicking along the boundary.
Weitering can't go with Membrey.
why the f...does Marchbank kick to a 'leading' ED Curnow?!!!
Where are the tall blokes? That is bad.
You can only kick to those who are presenting. Need our taller blokes to work harder and for Ed to get out of their space.
Poor checking to leave someone alone so close to goal, they're misses are keeping us in it ATM
Weitering can't go with Membrey.
A good coach would make the switch with Plowman, Gov or Marchbank
Thats a first.
Jack gets told off for too high when he has picked up the ball and his shoulder happens to hit the saints bloke in the head.
WHat is Jack supposed to do? Not pick up the ball?!
So you bend down and get the ball and you're punished for it.. ?
Fark me
Oh my god we are bad.
Don’t beat this mob and will stay on one win for the season.
Free kick count....14 - 7 saints way.
Its happening again?
...and there is another one. Should be reported for diving.
Young is master diver
Free kick count....14 - 7 saints way.
Its happening again?
What do you expect when you do stupid crap like Newman just did?
...and there is another one. Should be reported for diving.
And yet the commentators are getting stuck into our player for it
Impressed with Casboults defensive mindset, seem comfortable back there
Physical game, good one for Murphy to miss.
What do you expect when you do stupid crap like Newman just did?
For a bloke who used to have Arnie as his avatar, you're taking the divers side?
I suppose you were against Jacks effort earlier too?!
Currently 16-7
Before this game we were last for frees for, and free kick differential.
That trend continues
Geez Cheating Maggot Number 11 got his Aints Duffel Coat on today >:(
Throw against Fisher?
17-7
This umpiring is a disgrace.
We've really got no hope if all we do is just go slow around the wings all the time
For a bloke who used to have Arnie as his avatar, you're taking the divers side?
I suppose you were against Jacks effort earlier too?!
Currently 16-7
Before this game we were last for frees for, and free kick differential.
That trend continues
I've got soft in my old age.
Nice goal Charlie, nice to see the confidence returning
Where's the Guv?
We've really got no hope if all we do is just go slow around the wings all the time
...and yet we are leading.
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19-7
This umpiring is a disgrace.
Parkin, Boomer Harvey and the other blokes on the radio saying the same.
I've barely heard Cripps name being called today.
Parkin, Boomer Harvey and the other blokes on the radio saying the same.
I've barely heard Cripps name being called today.
Cripps is being well held. Literally, held at every stoppage with no whistle
Parkin, Boomer Harvey and the other blokes on the radio saying the same.
I've barely heard Cripps name being called today.
Cripps has 15, 3 clearances and 2 goal assists.
Open your ears. ;)
Parkin, Boomer Harvey and the other blokes on the radio saying the same.
I've barely heard Cripps name being called today.
Cripps has been good.
When we do tackle , tough for us to get a free
Cripps is being well held. Literally, held at every stoppage with no whistle
AFL engineered sacking of Bolton - bring in an AFL sanctioned coach, and watch the umpiring magically change.
Dow getting a game presently is a joke...
Matchbanks tackle should have been rewarded, but no.
20-7.
Since i've been counting, saints have had the last 6 free kicks...who knows how many more they had before that.
Bravo Plowman.
Wow Ploughman...Mensa graduate :o
Cripps has 15, 3 clearances and 2 goal assists.
Open your ears. ;)
Cripps has been good.
I've been listening since the start. but only in the last few minutes have I heard his name. What can I tell ya ?
Bravo Plowman.
Boomer saying that some players in AFL really need to keep it simple. Plowman is one of those according to him.
Matchbanks tackle should have been rewarded, but no.
20-7.
Since i've been counting, saints have had the last 6 free kicks...who knows how many more they had before that.
Frees were 11-0 that qtr.
Wow Ploughman...Mensa graduate :o
another terrible brain fade...i erckon he shouldn't have played today...
Dow getting a game presently is a joke...
Not much running around in the 2's though Fly, they were pitiful after 1/2 time today
Boomer saying that some players in AFL really need to keep it simple. Plowman is one of those according to him.
Let him practice simple in th VFL. And running.
At least half of that quarter without a free kick.
Jack gave one away that i've never seen before in a game of football. It should've been his if anything.
Marchbank went unrewarded.
Stocker had one about 20 minutes ago which should've been rewarded.
I'm tempted to bring in Brad Scott just so he can have a whinge about the umpires on our behalf.
Plowman is directly responsible for a lot of opposition goals this year.
Geez he’s a DUMB footballer
Frees were 11-0 that qtr.
Well there you go.
AFL engineered sacking of Bolton - bring in an AFL sanctioned coach, and watch the umpiring magically change.
Well if the club don’t day something this week we may as well go gentle into that good night.
The umpiring is pathetic and incredibly one sided.
Parko implying that the free kick count against us this season is our own fault. He didn't say it in so many words, but..............
Simple.
We cant get our hands on the football.
Murphy for all his faults gets a lot of it usually which is a real problem for us.
AFL engineered sacking of Bolton - bring in an AFL sanctioned coach, and watch the umpiring magically change.
Bolton does need any assistance in that department
A second or two behind when we should move the ball and its leading to contests. If we can eliminate some mistakes we will go close.
Umpiring stinks
Plowmans decision at the very end of that quarter is another example of how dumb our players are. Chew up the clock till it too late for us to score then shoot a dangerous pass in an attacking area. I mean seriously how dumb are we.
The umpiring is bordering on cheating but hey let not make a stand but rather listen to our coach come out and praise them and say how much he respects them after this loss.
We are a laughing stock.
I've got soft in my old age.
So you'll be singing Murphy's praises pretty soon.
Bolton does need any assistance in that department
There's room for one more on my pedestal if you're interested Jonny.
So 50/50 decisions can now be officially considered “not Carlton’s”.
So 50/50 decisions can now be officially considered “not Carlton’s”.
50/50? We’re not even getting the 90/10!
Jack’s high contact free against for the opposition player who didn’t have the ball was puke worthy.
Geez we are missing Liam Jones.
Membrey wouldn't have a touch of Jones was playing.
Geez we are missing Liam Jones.
Membrey wouldn't have a touch of Jones was playing.
Membrey always smashes Weitering.
Geez we are missing Liam Jones.
Membrey wouldn't have a touch of Jones was playing.
Switch Gov back on him and Cas forward. It’s a big change in plan, but have Gov man him up instead of zoning off.
Plowmans decision at the very end of that quarter is another example of how dumb our players are. Chew up the clock till it too late for us to score then shoot a dangerous pass in an attacking area. I mean seriously how dumb are we.
The umpiring is bordering on cheating but hey let not make a stand but rather listen to our coach come out and praise them and say how much he respects them after this loss.
We are a laughing stock.
That's why we need a coach like Brad Scott.
21 - 7.
At least 12 free kicks in a row to saints....over 33 minutes since we've had a free kick.
Need to make some changes, momentum not going our way. Gov has been missing, Dow, and Fisher ineffectual
Anoher fine example of our refusal to tag. Graham running free and Ed would be perfect match up.
Bolts working his magic again, refuses to put his only tagger in Ed on their number 1 playmaker Gresham who is now tearing us a new one....digging your own grave here Brendan ;)
Midfield getting killed, mussed tackles when we don't have it, missed passes when we do. Dow doesn't like body contact
Need to make some changes, momentum not going our way. Gov has been missing, Dow, and Fisher ineffectual
Cunningham too
We make so many stupid decisions when we have the ball, turn over the ball so often, no wonder we are always chasing
If this is what playing for your coach means to the players, BB will be holidaying in Bali for the rest of the season...
free kick count
22 - 7 Saints way.
At 1/4 time it was 9-7
Need to make some changes, momentum not going our way. Gov has been missing, Dow, and Fisher ineffectual
Today is a perfect example of our coaching problems.
Clean out your desk Bolton.
free kick count
22 - 7 Saints way.
At 1/4 time it was 9-7
You need to focus on the real issues
Our players are not winning the footy
Cunningham, SPS, Fisher, Dow and McGovern have done sfa
How the hell do they have two players standing free inside forward 50 with our two defendrs zoning off to give them 15m of space?!
what did we give up for Mitch McGovern ?
How was Daisy’s tackle in the forward 50 not holding th ball??
News flash... We are crap
I said it pages back. TOO many passengers. Not hard tp lose team momentum when you don't hunt for the damn ball
News flash... We are crap
its not a news flash we have been crap for 10 years
I’m watching a serious car accident in slow motion at the moment.
Last few mins of Saints forward pressure we gifted them from Govs mis kick into our 50. We make it so easy for our opposition
I’m watching a serious car accident in slow motion at the moment.
Good way to put it. And we kicked the first 3.....
ARGH!!!!!
Frees aside, we know how to help an ordinary side look good.
My prematch tip was Saints by 5 goals.
Not much to convince me otherwise, with or without the umpires handicaps.
:-[
Well done Gibbons
Geez we are missing Liam Jones.
Membrey wouldn't have a touch of Jones was playing.
Mate we have a lot more issues then just replacing a defender.
Awesome goal form Gibbons , but then we miss the easy ones....
Flag flying = progress.
its not a news flash we have been crap for 10 years
Yeah true ... my bad.
Can't believe I put $100 on us to win... I sort of thought we'd have a fair dinkum 4 qtr crack after last week.
FMD
Why didn’t Cas get 50?
Someone takeDow off pls, needed to take advantage of a scoring opportunity and just nothing
Dow = D'oh !
At least Kreuzer and others came in when Levi took hit.
Paddy Dow really is crape scared to kick a goal from 25 out directly in front....just goes to water every time
Lifted just slightly.
We just can't think our way though the game ,
Dow = D'oh !
seriously he is a shocking kick and he will be the new casboult never get any better, whats with the development of our players they just never seem to improve.
Stay and fight.
Don’t listen to the umpire
Just what do we have to do to get the 50m penalty?
Our forward line is a shambles. Talls on top of each other and midfield not working. Seems more of a work rate problem this week and a staggering number of missed tackles.
This is the most disgraceful umpiring in history.
Free kicks to the saints for everything and even inventing new rules to give the saints some.
Missing all the holding against us and no holding the ball against the saints.
No 50m when 2 of our players are taken out in marking contests.
Should've been 5 goals down at one stage but in the end we could've been in front with even remotely decent delivery into the F50. Some of that delivery was comedy gold.
Should have thrown some punches, might get off this week because Ablett will.
Is Bolts hiding away up in the box again...just when he could be imparting his words of wisdom from the boundary line??? :o :o :o
Cripps bounce. FMD where is his support? This is a derailed train.
We should order an IQ test to some of our players
Two Carlton players get cleaned up after a mark. No 50m.
Jack Silvagni stands up slowly, not holding the ball after being pinged despite getting the handpass off. 50m paid.
Fox saying 16 out of the last 18 inside 50s to us....so we can get it there, but delivery is deplorable
For the poor efforts we've put up...and with the umpiring handicap, we are still only 3 goals down.
Put all that behind you and focus on the last 15 minutes and we can win this.
...and it can start with that tackle by SPS!
There is energy there, if we have a little luck , there is hope
Miss by Dow, so important
Cuners is turning into a player. Never thought i'd see the day.
Gov off with an ankle
There is energy there, if we have a little luck , there is hope
Just don’t realise the fact that “less” as a suffix to hope is where we could be. Hang on, we just kicked a goal. Scrap the first sentence.
Gov off with an ankle
Kerr to get his chance next week
Weitering and Plowman 2 on 1 in the box seat and that happens... Dumb Nfi
Kerr to get his chance next week
do we really need to continue with this 3 tall forward line if mcgovern is out lets try something different
Ok getting interesting, need to take these chances, just like that
Somehow we are still a huge chance.
One of the worst games ever but i'd take it whatever way. A $hit win beats an honorable loss every day of the week,
No more Keystone Cops on the field for us please. Hang on a second, Special K kicks goal. Scrap first sentence again.
do we really need to continue with this 3 tall forward line if mcgovern is out lets try something different
I'm not sure the 3 forwards are our problem.
But Kerr is in form. Kicked 9 goals in the last 2 weeks. Deserves his shot.
Who said the umpires don't influence a game?
Had Dow in a headlock....?????and gets free against him?????
First round draft pick for Paddy screwing Dow ????
Who said the umpires don't influence a game?
Not me
Again, no 50m
Just what do we need to do/have done to us for a 50m?
"didn't take the mark" :o
50m umpire FFS!
We need to start belting them. We are going to lose and get beaten up.
These Aints toads have well and truly been kissed on the d...s but the cheating maggot fairies today, Umpire 11 who ever that me be the main culprit and didn't Leigh Fisher play for the Aints back in the day??
how many turnovers have we had today?
Couldn't blow the whistle quick enough on Cuners in front of goal.
Then gave another quick one on the wing to kill a shot on goal, and the momentum we had.
Umps are a bigger momentum killer than Casboult missing a key shot on goal!
how many turnovers have we had today?
More than our contested possessions at a guess.
Game over unfortunately.
Plowman will cop $hit for that, but that is, again, the umpires fault. The player on the mark has to get back to 'the 9' after a mark there....but instead was called play on before that happened. Should've been 50m, but instead its more hatred coming at Plowman.
If that is Bolton's answer to last week, he should resign tonight.
Time to go Cockroach.. we are no better under your tutor ledge ;)
If that is Bolton's answer to last week, he should resign tonight.
The players took it upon themselves to rectify there own efforts....sack them all too?
Drop SPS and Dow.
Bravo umpires, at times it looked like Carlton had a chance but you fought back hard to kill our momentum and stop us
We are just not a smart team, wether it's coach driven or lack of player game feel, we don't think
Saint were waiting to be beaten but our ball movement and use into the F50 just deplorable.
If that is Bolton's answer to last week, he should resign tonight.
x2 out coached again
Drop SPS and Dow.
Dow will be a good player but his confidence is shot to pieces. Needs a fair run in the 2s for now.
Please run a goal kicking comp during the week, if you can't kick 50/50 step aside and let some one else play
Dow will be a good player but his confidence is shot to pieces. Needs a fair run in the 2s for now.
needs to learn to kick the football !!! was he this bad last year?
Please run a goal kicking comp during the week, if you can't kick 50/50 step aside and let some one else play
there wouldn't be anyone left.
That was really annoying.
I saw us make poor decision after poor decision largely through bad execution leading to escalating pressure.
The umpires put them in front and kept them there and somehow we ended up with 24 free kicks. I call bs.
We are just not a smart team, wether it's coach driven or lack of player game feel, we don't think
Just can’t see where the next win will be. I am sick of people blaming umpires. Sure they stink it up big time. However we stink it up big time with skills and thinking smart. Game plan? NFI. Cripps needs to request a trade. He landed a bad deal in his draft. Waste of working class potential Super star.
needs to learn to kick the football !!! was he this bad last year?
Not last year or early in the year. Never a great kick but was something alot better than this.
Just can’t see where the next win will be. I am sick of people blaming umpires. Sure they stink it up big time. However we stink it up big time with skills and thinking smart. Game plan? NFI. Cripps needs to request a trade. He landed a bad deal in his draft. Waste of working class potential Super star.
Its not necessarily blaming umpires. I would just like a level playing field.
We are constantly fighting with 1 hand behind our back....and we need all the help we can get.
Just can’t see where the next win will be. I am sick of people blaming umpires. Sure they stink it up big time. However we stink it up big time with skills and thinking smart. Game plan? NFI. Cripps needs to request a trade. He landed a bad deal in his draft. Waste of working class potential Super star.
St Kilda was just waiting to beaten and we seemed to have no idea how to go about it. We are the most poorly drilled and structured team ever. That simply coaching. That was demoralising today.