Righto, 3 wins in a row, now we play a big dog. To contend you have to beat contenders, so can we?
What I know for certain is we must:
- Be the hunter again
- Pressure on the oppo ball carrier has to be even higher this week
Righto, 3 wins in a row, now we play a big dog. To contend you have to beat contenders, so can we?
What I know for certain is we must:
- Be the hunter again
- Pressure on the oppo ball carrier has to be even higher this week
We can win this game...if it was in Adelaide I wouldn't give us much of a chance but away from home I don't see them as good and they are a bit banged up. 13 wins in a row is a long haul and they are due to lose...
Their backline isn't big and Jonas will be playing his first game for a while. Obviously they have a strong onball unit and Charlie Dixon usually makes his presence felt and they have Finlayson and Marshall as tall marking targets also so it's going to be won and lost in the midfield given both defenses I think will be stretched...
We can win this game...if it was in Adelaide I wouldn't give us much of a chance but away from home I don't see them as good and they are a bit banged up. 13 wins in a row is a long haul and they are due to lose...
Their backline isn't big and Jonas will be playing his first game for a while. Obviously they have a strong onball unit and Charlie Dixon usually makes his presence felt and they have Finlayson and Marshall as tall marking targets also so it's going to be won and lost in the midfield given both defenses I think will be stretched...
They are banged up indeed and if we can't get em this week we never will. They have no rucks which seems to suit us these days, Dixon and Finlayson can barely walk. As you say their midfield is one of the best in the business but if ours continues with their recent excellent form, we can match them there. It will be a hard assignment for us as I am not as negative towards them in regards to the their form away from home. You don't win 13 in row if you are no good, how banged up they are will be the determining factor at the end of the day.
I think Port are due for a loss. They stumbled over the line against the Bombers, and their first half against the Suns was pedestrian at best.
They also have Collingwood the week after us, so given the importance of that game, they may be looking to 'manage' one or two of the walking wounded.
I would be happy if we were the beneficiaries of them having their mind off this week's game.
Ah, the life of a Carlton supporter.
3 week ago we were sacking half our list and the coach wasn't too far away either.
Now we are expecting to win against a team who hasn't lost in over 3 months.
Ya gotta laugh.
Ah, the life of a Carlton supporter.
3 week ago we were sacking half our list and the coach wasn't too far away either.
Now we are expecting to win against a team who hasn't lost in over 3 months.
Ya gotta laugh.
To quote several pundits, '3 weeks is a lifetime in footy!'
I'd love to know what they talked about when they had the BBQ at Ed Curnow's place after the Essendon debacle.
Hopefully the good form of the last 3 games carries over to this game, and we fight hard and pressure and make Port earn every possession, goal etc. We’re not at the level to beat a form team like Port IMO, but if we give them a major fright and run them ragged for 4 quarters, the realistic part of me says that’s probably the best we can expect. Port by 3 points.
Oh, and please kick straight. None of this 2.15 nonsense.
Oh, and please kick straight. None of this 2.15 nonsense.
IMO that will be the key to beating them. Our defence has been playing very well but we will need to look out for Dixon and Findlayson.
Righto, 3 wins in a row, now we play a big dog. To contend you have to beat contenders, so can we?
What I know for certain is we must:
- Be the hunter again
- Pressure on the oppo ball carrier has to be even higher this week
Yep.
I have absolutely no doubt that IF we bring, for 120 minutes, our (strongly evolving) hunter intensity, we'll beat anyone...
Ah, the life of a Carlton supporter.
3 week ago we were sacking half our list and the coach wasn't too far away either.
Now we are expecting to win against a team who hasn't lost in over 3 months.
Ya gotta laugh.
With respect, I don't think that is entirely accurate, K.
Only a very few called for a major cull/coach replacement. I think most of us realise that there will be a moderate cull, nothing major, at year's end. And the cull will only be those whose bodies just aren't up to it and those few who just aren't coming along after having been given plenty of opportunity. And I don't recall anyone on this forum calling for Vossy's sacking.
The biggest questions being asked, very reasonably, were around leadership and discipline.
I'd love to know what they talked about when they had the BBQ at Ed Curnow's place after the Essendon debacle.
Maybe they said something along the lines of "
hey, you now what. If we had've kicked 16.6 instead of 6.16 we would've won that game, easy"
Next 3 games
18.12
17.10
14.14
I think what was being said was that the coach and players needed to win a few games or the pressure would increase.
Well... ;D
It's not rocket science.
Ask Stewie Dew ;)
The suns have the same amount of wins as us lol.
With respect, I don't think that is entirely accurate, K.
Only a very few called for a major cull/coach replacement. I think most of us realise that there will be a moderate cull, nothing major, at year's end. And the cull will only be those whose bodies just aren't up to it and those few who just aren't coming along after having been given plenty of opportunity. And I don't recall anyone on this forum calling for Vossy's sacking.
The biggest questions being asked, very reasonably, were around leadership and discipline.
Even the most one-eyed supporter would agree that a few of the players on the field during our slump aren’t yet truly competitive at AFL level. Replacing them, or fast-tracking their development, is required to ensure finishing in the eight.
With the exception of our rucks, the combination we’re putting on the park now is stronger and better balanced than the team we went with in the first half of the season. Kemp, Martin, Cuningham and Fogarty have added run, defensive pressure, better ball use, a deeper midfield and contributed to a more fluent forward line.
The makeshift ruck has also had a positive impact with the mids really stepping up. Young becomes an extra defender when he’s not rucking and Silvagni is popping up all over the ground to good effect. However, I don’t think that will be sustainable against the likes of Melbourne, Brisbane and Collingwood. It should work against Port though.
Port’s winning streak has dispelled any thoughts that they’re flaky away from home but I think that we will benefit from home ground advantage.
Hinkley will be flat out trying to work out how to counter the “new” Carlton and I’m expecting a tougher contest. Provided we bring the same energy and attack on the ball and opposition, we should make it four wins in a row.
The biggest questions being asked, very reasonably, were around leadership and discipline.
Personally, to me the biggest issue this season has been fitness and game continuity, that is a transient problem.
Long term I think we still have player development issues, the jury is out on players like Hollands, Cowan, etc., until we see them in Season 2 and beyond, after their 2nd or 3rd pre-season.
Port have much bigger heavier bodies than the lightweights we've been playing against for the last few weeks, and they will try to use some of those bodies to place a toll on Cripps, Cerra and Walsh. I wouldn't want to rely on roving to a losing ruck this week!
If he pulls up OK Sam Durdin might come straight in if McGovern is out, Durdin stepped back into VFL like he hadn't missed a beat.
I think we’ll win.
I think we have good momentum, we’re playing at home, should have had a nice rest after the last game and good to go.
As above, agree on fitness. The boys seem to move faster, better, quicker now than a month and two ago. Is that the loading they’ve been getting from the fitness team, have they got it balanced and right now?
It will tell the story for the remainder of the season - win and we’re on track, lose just by a bit and I worry we will capitulate for the rest of the season but think we won’t, but lose badly and i think that’ll be us done for 2023.
With respect, I don't think that is entirely accurate, K.
Only a very few called for a major cull/coach replacement. I think most of us realise that there will be a moderate cull, nothing major, at year's end. And the cull will only be those whose bodies just aren't up to it and those few who just aren't coming along after having been given plenty of opportunity. And I don't recall anyone on this forum calling for Vossy's sacking.
The biggest questions being asked, very reasonably, were around leadership and discipline.
It wasn't limited to our little pond here mate.
Plenty of talkback radio and media beat up on the topic.
The boys seem to move faster, better, quicker now than a month and two ago. Is that the loading they’ve been getting from the fitness team, have they got it balanced and right now?
I suspect it has more to do with team selection with the inclusion of decisive 'chase, tackle and pressure' types in preference to the players who tend to merely 'chase' in the same general direction as opponents and only seriously accelerate if/when they think they have a chance of catching up or applying physical pressure.
With respect, I don't think that is entirely accurate, K.
Only a very few called for a major cull/coach replacement. I think most of us realise that there will be a moderate cull, nothing major, at year's end. And the cull will only be those whose bodies just aren't up to it and those few who just aren't coming along after having been given plenty of opportunity. And I don't recall anyone on this forum calling for Vossy's sacking.
The biggest questions being asked, very reasonably, were around leadership and discipline.
A list cull is still very much requird Baggers, nothing has changed on that score.
A list cull is still very much requird Baggers, nothing has changed on that score.
A cull is not necessarily good list management, good list management is about having just the right mix of officers and soldiers.
Too many of either results in chaos!
A cull is not necessarily good list management, good list management is about having just the right mix of officers and soldiers.
Too many of either results in chaos!
There are too many "useless" names on our list that must be culled. An by "useless", I mean blokes that cannot be relied upon because they are either always injured or not AFL standard.
Weiters plays his 150th this week so there's some extra motivation for the boys this week.
There are too many "useless" names on our list that must be culled. An by "useless", I mean blokes that cannot be relied upon because they are either always injured or not AFL standard.
x10...I'd add in the word trust too.....you just cant trust some of our players to perform in a consistent manner. You have to be up every week and performing not just when the team comes under pressure or its looking like a cull might happen and you need to up your effort to get a new contract and the club have been linked to other players.
Personally, to me the biggest issue this season has been fitness and game continuity, that is a transient problem.
Long term I think we still have player development issues, the jury is out on players like Hollands, Cowan, etc., until we see them in Season 2 and beyond, after their 2nd or 3rd pre-season.
Port have much bigger heavier bodies than the lightweights we've been playing against for the last few weeks, and they will try to use some of those bodies to place a toll on Cripps, Cerra and Walsh. I wouldn't want to rely on roving to a losing ruck this week!
If he pulls up OK Sam Durdin might come straight in if McGovern is out, Durdin stepped back into VFL like he hadn't missed a beat.
Sam Durdin is ok backup vs the lesser clubs but he will be out of his depth against Dixon and crew imho.
If TDK comes in I would put Young down back again, he hasnt been great this season but at least he has been playing senior football and has a understanding with Weitering and the other defenders. If S. Durdin has to pick up Finlayson or Marshall I could see that getting ugly real quick....
Sam Durdin is ok backup vs the lesser clubs but he will be out of his depth against Dixon and crew imho.
If TDK comes in I would put Young down back again, he hasnt been great this season but at least he has been playing senior football and has a understanding with Weitering and the other defenders. If S. Durdin has to pick up Finlayson or Marshall I could see that getting ugly real quick....
I trust Weiters to bring the pill to ground, as long as the others are up and about, and are also prepared to put themselves in harms way to win the ground ball in front of a rampant Dixon, we should do OK.
I hope Weiters gets a fair go against Dixon this time, the last time we played Port when Dixon was playing their minis got away with a shedload of illegal checking to give Dixon a free ride, it was tactics straight out of the Nthmond play book.
From what I can tell watching Dixon on the TV over many years, he seems like a fairly gentle giant. Looks scary, but plays fair.
From what I can tell watching Dixon on the TV over many years, he seems like a fairly gentle giant. Looks scary, but plays fair.
Agree
From what I can tell watching Dixon on the TV over many years, he seems like a fairly gentle giant. Looks scary, but plays fair.
Even so he runs straight lines, you are head to head with a huge opponent when you start dropping in the space.
It's not Dixon that Weiters must worry about, it's the Port smalls who block and check well off the footy to give Dixon space and time.
Also if we can't get TDK or Pitto up, Young and SoJ are up against a Hawkins type opponent in our D50.
Even so he runs straight lines, you are head to head with a huge opponent when you start dropping in the space.
It's not Dixon that Weiters must worry about, it's the Port smalls who block and check well off the footy to give Dixon space and time.
Also if we can't get TDK or Pitto up, Young and SoJ are up against a Hawkins type opponent in our D50.
Maybe, but Finlayson is a bigger threat IMO, as he seems to be mining a rare and rich vein of form. More goals and more behinds than Charlie (JF has played 3 more games), and seems to be their No1 key forward at the moment. I would put more time into Zak Butters, Allir Allir, and Todd Marshall than Charlie Dixon.
Dixon is a key player for them as he creates a lot of space and requires several players to restrict him.
It's not about the goals he kicks he just seems to create apprehension and even Weitering doesn't look comfortable playing on him.
He isn't dirty or trying to run through players even legally it's just his attack on the footy usually creates a spillage and bodies on the deck leading to opportunities. The other one is SPP who is like a smaller version of Dixon and uses his strength well and kicks important goals on the back of being hard to tackle and restrain. They have a varied forward line and I think if they get enough supply it's going to be hard to stop them and that's why I think our midfield need to be at their best and winning more ball than the opposition. Can't see either defense holding up if the forwards get enough supply. Charlie and Harry should provide the same nightmares for Ports defense.
Houston will need a tag as he is a key driver in Ports attacks...Cottrell would be my man for the job.
I'm looking forward to seeing how we face off. Although think this will be a mountain too high.
It wasn't limited to our little pond here mate.
Plenty of talkback radio and media beat up on the topic.
Okay, personally I don't listen to that stuff... sheesh, I don't even take any notice of my own rantings after an embarrassing loss! And as for the media!! Clicks, sensationalism, exaggeration... etc. I barely watch most programmes, except for the more measured, intelligent discussions... discussions where 'why' is the chief question, not rampant opinions of doom and gloom.
We need to turn up with the right attitude. If we do we should win. I would go with Dow to replace Kennedy but they will probably go with Hewitt. TDK for Young though I am not sure McGovern will play.
Okay, personally I don't listen to that stuff... sheesh, I don't even take any notice of my own rantings after an embarrassing loss! And as for the media!! Clicks, sensationalism, exaggeration... etc. I barely watch most programmes, except for the more measured, intelligent discussions... discussions where 'why' is the chief question, not rampant opinions of doom and gloom.
I don't seek it out, but i'd lie if i said some of it doesn't find its way to me.
Sometimes through here, sometimes through social media.
I don't seek it out, but i'd lie if i said some of it doesn't find its way to me.
Sometimes through here, sometimes through social media.
Supporters largely live in the moment.
You can't change that.
If we'd lost the last three instead of winning them, can you imagine the noise.
Now we have some tough games coming up.
If we lose more than we win, and the manner of losses is one that doesn't show the same level of pressure and commitment, watch it change again.
Rozzee and the brat are having AA seasons, but thankfully our greatest nemesis - Robbie Gray - has retired. Butters is a lippy, dirty, sly little sod who has cut us up, and physically worked us over, in the past. I would mind seeing him sat on his ar$e a few times, might shut his yapping up. Our smaller players eg Walsh are going to get some treatment, pity Kennedy is out this week.
Rozzee and the brat are having AA seasons, but thankfully our greatest nemesis - Robbie Gray - has retired. Butters is a lippy, dirty, sly little sod who has cut us up, and physically worked us over, in the past. I would mind seeing him sat on his ar$e a few times, might shut his yapping up. Our smaller players eg Walsh are going to get some treatment, pity Kennedy is out this week.
Martin sat Pearce on his ass good and proper on Sunday, I was most impressed. Its not the size of the dog in the fight...you know the rest.
Rozzee and the brat are having AA seasons, but thankfully our greatest nemesis - Robbie Gray - has retired. Butters is a lippy, dirty, sly little sod who has cut us up, and physically worked us over, in the past. I would mind seeing him sat on his ar$e a few times, might shut his yapping up. Our smaller players eg Walsh are going to get some treatment, pity Kennedy is out this week.
Butters has gone up a level this season. Proper gun player.
Rozee is all hype imho. I've seen better from him this season than the past but nothing too special up until this season.
I can handle losing (just) but can't stand being beaten up physically. It's weak and this mob have lorded it over us in the past. They think we're weak and we've never done anything about it other than crumble under pressure.
Butters has gone up a level this season. Proper gun player.
Rozee is all hype imho. I've seen better from him this season than the past but nothing too special up until this season.
Ive changed my mind on Rozee, I've been impressed this year with his maturity and consistency. I dont however subscribe to theory that we should have drafted him instead of Walsh, not even one iota. I would pick Walsh over Rozee every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
I can handle losing (just) but can't stand being beaten up physically. It's weak and this mob have lorded it over us in the past. They think we're weak and we've never done anything about it other than crumble under pressure.
We won't get beaten up Prof. We will hunt and dish out the beating, the 23 that ran out on Sunday fear no one.
Ive changed my mind on Rozee, I've been impressed this year with his maturity and consistency. I dont however subscribe to theory that we should have drafted him instead of Walsh, not even one iota. I would pick Walsh over Rozee every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
I'd be equally happy with both. Rozee has become tougher IMO, no longer just a flashy outside player.
Congratulations to Weiters on his 150th game in the navy blue 👏🏼
Hope it's your best game to date.
Added bonus if all our 2015 draft crop play the game! At least that is looking like a successful draft.
Should be a good game to watch if we bring the heat.
Port will absorb it better than Freo and will come down to efficiency.
We have been very efficient past few weeks but this team is known to mentally fold in big games they have to learn sometime.
Ive changed my mind on Rozee, I've been impressed this year with his maturity and consistency. I dont however subscribe to theory that we should have drafted him instead of Walsh, not even one iota. I would pick Walsh over Rozee every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
Rozee would have gone home and we probably would have got Fantasia as the trade. As you say Walsh everyday of the week. I think Butters will be AA and not far away from Nick Daicos on brownlow day...he is a gun.
I'd expect Port to be physical but I'd be more fearful of their leg speed and skill.
Over rated and over hyped is Allir Allir...soft and I reckon Charlie and Harry will dominate him and the dirtiest player on the ground in Jonas....remember him laying out Gaff..pure thug.
Ive changed my mind on Rozee, I've been impressed this year with his maturity and consistency. I dont however subscribe to theory that we should have drafted him instead of Walsh, not even one iota. I would pick Walsh over Rozee every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
I wouldn't choose Rozee ahead of butters at this stage.
Walsh always was the number one pick but everyone would be happy with those draft choices with the exception of the king twins. Those two are proper injury prone bean poles.
Rozee would have gone home and we probably would have got Fantasia as the trade. As you say Walsh everyday of the week. I think Butters will be AA and not far away from Nick Daicos on brownlow day...he is a gun.
I'd expect Port to be physical but I'd be more fearful of their leg speed and skill.
Over rated and over hyped is Allir Allir...soft and I reckon Charlie and Harry will dominate him and the dirtiest player on the ground in Jonas....remember him laying out Gaff..pure thug.
I think Butters is a jet and would take him in a heart beat. Do yourself a favour, have a look at Daicos's and Butters' numbers for this year. Then have a look at Cerra's and compare them to other two and tell me what you find.
I think Butters is a jet and would take him in a heart beat. Do yourself a favour, have a look at Daicos's and Butters' numbers for this year. Then have a look at Cerra's and compare them to other two and tell me what you find.
Perhaps do us all a favour and just post the comparison.
Perhaps do us all a favour and just post the comparison.
I did a few weeks ago and posted the link and there were very similar, here is Butters and Cerra compared side by side from footywire.
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=14&playerStatus2=A&tid2=4&type=A&pid1=6616&pid2=6476&fid1=S&fid2=S
Daicos v Butters
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=14&playerStatus2=A&tid2=5&type=A&pid1=6616&pid2=6913&fid1=S&fid2=S
Daicos v Cerra
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=4&playerStatus2=A&tid2=5&type=A&pid1=6476&pid2=6913&fid1=S&fid2=S
My point was weeks ago that Butters was second favourite for the Brownlow at the time and Cezz had equal or better averages statically yet he was/is no where to be seen in the market odds. Cezz has had an outstanding season and has flown under the radar somewhat.
So I'd be betting on Butters, there appears to be a distinct advantage being outside Vic when it comes to Brownlow voting.
Imagine Brownlow night if Butters gets up over Daicos, can you imagine the Filth army the next day!
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I did a few weeks ago and posted the link and there were very similar, here is Butters and Cerra compared side by side from footywire.
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=14&playerStatus2=A&tid2=4&type=A&pid1=6616&pid2=6476&fid1=S&fid2=S
Daicos v Butters
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=14&playerStatus2=A&tid2=5&type=A&pid1=6616&pid2=6913&fid1=S&fid2=S
Daicos v Cerra
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=4&playerStatus2=A&tid2=5&type=A&pid1=6476&pid2=6913&fid1=S&fid2=S
My point was weeks ago that Butters was second favourite for the Brownlow at the time and Cezz had equal or better averages statically yet he was/is no where to be seen in the market odds. Cezz has had an outstanding season and has flown under the radar somewhat.
Winning teams players always get more kudos and Nick Daicos in particular is an AFL pin up boy. Daicos will get a lot of three votes and Cerra will get ones...
I did a few weeks ago and posted the link and there were very similar, here is Butters and Cerra compared side by side from footywire.
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=14&playerStatus2=A&tid2=4&type=A&pid1=6616&pid2=6476&fid1=S&fid2=S
Daicos v Butters
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=14&playerStatus2=A&tid2=5&type=A&pid1=6616&pid2=6913&fid1=S&fid2=S
Daicos v Cerra
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=4&playerStatus2=A&tid2=5&type=A&pid1=6476&pid2=6913&fid1=S&fid2=S
My point was weeks ago that Butters was second favourite for the Brownlow at the time and Cezz had equal or better averages statically yet he was/is no where to be seen in the market odds. Cezz has had an outstanding season and has flown under the radar somewhat.
Thank you.
Winning teams players always get more kudos and Nick Daicos in particular is an AFL pin up boy. Daicos will get a lot of three votes and Cerra will get ones...
I just have this hunch Cezz will surprise a few on Brownlow night.
I just have this hunch Cezz will surprise a few on Brownlow night.
Filth fans will pump up Daicos, but the bulk of his game possessions are like Doc or Saad and he cleans up with give and get running off the HBF. Umpires tend to write that off as empty possessions.
When was the last time someone like Doc or Saad won a Brownlow?
Butters or Cerra are far more impressive and influential.
A great measure is who'd you pick first from their team if you were building a team from scratch and needed a core group, would you more likely pick Butters, Cerra or Daicos? From the Filth I'd have several ahead of Daicos, De Goey, Moore, even Pendlebury and Sidebottom ahead of Daicos still! From Port I'd have Butters just about first, it's hard to argue a clear case for another. From Carlton Cerra is playing himself into the Top 3, hard to displace Cripps and Walsh to form a core, but at the moment Cerra has them on form.
I just have this hunch Cezz will surprise a few on Brownlow night.
N. Daicos from Lachie Neale for the medal.....I see Cerra a bit like Josh Daicos, wont ever get the media love that Nick does.
Zach Merrett is another media love child and I think he will also poll well with the umps as he gets headlined most weeks.
Zach Merrett is another media love child and I think he will also poll well with the umps as he gets headlined most weeks.
Media headlines have zero influence, the votes are already cast!
I think the biggest influence on umpire votes is the crowd, so the Filth have an advantage, but Butters and other interstate types even more so because on homes game they really clean up!
Of course we have an extra umpire this season, so who can tell?
When was the last time someone like Doc or Saad won a Brownlow?
The late, great Johnny James in 1961?
It would be interesting to check out a Port supporters group to see which of our players they’re most anxious about.
I suspect that Hinkley is more concerned about Charlie, Harry, Martin, Cerra, Cripps, Walsh, Weitering, Saad, Docherty, Acres and our ruck combination than Voss is about Dixon, Finlayson, Allir, Butters, Rozee, et al.
As a collective, Cripps, Walsh and Cerra is looking better and better each week.
Our chance this week is in the middle and up forward. Charlie and Harry could do some damage if we get the same amount of ball through the midfield. Defensively we've been pretty solid too.
A real chance this week to beat a top 8 team which sounds odd given Port's 13 game winning streak.
Wanganeen 1993
The late, great Johnny James in 1961?
It would be interesting to check out a Port supporters group to see which of our players they’re most anxious about.
I suspect that Hinkley is more concerned about Charlie, Harry, Martin, Cerra, Cripps, Walsh, Weitering, Saad, Docherty, Acres and our ruck combination than Voss is about Dixon, Finlayson, Allir, Butters, Rozee, et al.
Voss would want to pay attention to Ports players, they are not second on the ladder for nothing and have a lot of players we will struggle to contain if we don't get the matchups right. They are probably at their most gettable in this game and we don't want to feck it up by being complacent.
We can make finals but things have to go right and a win vs Port might be worth 8 points in the final washup.
Don't want any strange experimental selections or stupid tactical mistakes like allowing players like Butters, Rozee etc to run around on their own like we do sometimes.
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It would be interesting to check out a Port supporters group to see which of our players they’re most anxious about.
I suspect that Hinkley is more concerned about Charlie, Harry, Martin, Cerra, Cripps, Walsh, Weitering, Saad, Docherty, Acres and our ruck combination than Voss is about Dixon, Finlayson, Allir, Butters, Rozee, et al.
From Big Footy PA v Carl game preview thread:
RE Jonas
"No McKenzie no port
Blues by 4 goals, Tom Jonas bog first Carlton"
"Who would Jonas match up on?
Curnow is laughable, he'd have 5m on Jonas in an instant.
McKay is half a foot taller than Jonas.
He's too slow to play on smalls.
No good as an interceptor as he can't mark anymore and is a dump kick player."
"Silvagni"
"Tend to agree. Jonas might be the most like for like McKenzie replacement but I’d rather Bergman/Jones play on Curnow."
"Curnow would kick 12.8 on Jonas. Too fast, too big, too athletic"
"We're replacing McKenzie's absolute left foot cannon with a Jonas' serviceable 30m sideways chip passes. That's a huge loss."
"It's alright, he'll only touch it once or twice. Probably for the best."
"Will Curnow be at the coin toss? That will about as close as Jonas will get to him if so."
"Jonas in has all the hallmarks of being able to pinpoint where a promising season disappeared before our eyes. He's a poor match-up on any Carlton players, but no matter how badly he goes, if he's in now they've decided he's a McKenzie replacement, so in for at least the time until he's back. Even that is wishful thinking, we aren't dropping him a week or two before finals."
General
"We need to bury the Blues - 40+.
Our midfield is faster and more skilful. Ferraris vs commodores.
Our forward line is more dynamic and talented.
Our defensive six have prioritised speed and talent over height and one on one ability.
We should crush these AFL rich boy darlings.
Would love an aggressive Pasini debut but I think, bergs back, Xavs to the wing and Narkle in up front makes sense.
Happy for Evans to sub or debut The Wolverine- it’s time, cracking game."
"Essentially an elimination final for the blues next week. Will be a good test for us.
Anyone know their record at Marvel?"
"Blues up and about. All of a sudden this game just got very interesting.
Expect the Blues faithful to pack out Marvel Stadium as they look to help their team break an interstate raiders 13-game winning streak….and also expect the 2015-16 umpiring treatment too."
"Yes. But Curnow and McKay as dual tall and very mobile forward targets for Carlton is quite formidable.
Aliir takes one next week. Who takes the other?"
"McKay played back into form."
"Yep - the midfield delivery to him and Curnow has been elite. Despite Freo having a huge ruck dominance with
47 hit outs (to 8) thus far Carlton are killing the centre clearances to advantage. "
Nullifying that midfield dominance once the ball hits the deck. That's obviously the focus for us against them next week..
"Drop ken as Carlton have no reckonized coach"
"Don’t know why we’ve struggled against this side away. Since the start of ‘07, we’ve only beaten the blues in Melbourne twice (2014 and 2018), so this assignment will be anything but easy."
"Carlton away in WA this evening, will be very tough for them to back it up on a Marvel deck we play well.
We get in to a mini tough run after this with Collingwood - Crows - Geelong"
"Posted this in today's game thread but fits here.
Against Carlton at Docklands next week - and they have no (recognised) ruck with both Marc Pittonet and De Koning out due to injury. So no need for a tap ruckman with no mobility as it will leave our mids exposed to a smaller faster centre bounce set up.
So Hayes out. (sorry Schulzy :cry:).
Give Dixon and his peg leg a well earned rest before Collingwood.
Bring in Ollie Lord (who's back from suspension) to rotate with Finlayson in the ruck
And I'm not sure what we do to replace McKenzie if his ankle is something serious but the SANFL form of a couple of players looks pretty good and surely Duursma has done enough to get a spot back in the As.
Narkle stays in. And maybe Burgoyne gets another look with Rioli out for personal reasons."
"If we can repeat the 3rd quarter against the Suns, we'll be hard to beat anyway (although playing just 1 quarter this week may be fraught with danger)."
In reply to a Bluebagger:
"Should be a good game this week, BAT. Carlton has been in good form, but these days, Port loses at Marvel about as often as I meet intelligent Crows fans."
"Carlton supporters have always been the most delusional. Felt sorry for them at times but I think they are in need of another reality check."
"Carlton supporters are very, very confident they will beat us."
"Just a few days ago, this was just like any other game to me. Now I really want to put them back in their box!
Yeah they are, I had one taunting me saying they will be 5th after this weekend. Game will be won in the centre if we starve their forwards - Game Over."
There was this classy reply to the post above
"now i hope we piss blast them in their faces"
(if anyone can explain to me what piss blast is that would be great, doesn't sound pleasant thought)
"I find them highly annoying - every time we play them the ranga Cotterill has a decent game. I don't think I've seen him play a good game against any of the other 16 teams."
"Matthew Kennedy out for Carlton avoids acl but will miss 6 weeks"
"That's a loss for us. Very ordinary footballer."
:( From Big Footy PA v Carl game preview thread:
RE Jonas
"No McKenzie no port
Blues by 4 goals, Tom Jonas bog first Carlton"
"Who would Jonas match up on?
Curnow is laughable, he'd have 5m on Jonas in an instant.
McKay is half a foot taller than Jonas.
He's too slow to play on smalls.
No good as an interceptor as he can't mark anymore and is a dump kick player."
"Silvagni"
"Tend to agree. Jonas might be the most like for like McKenzie replacement but I’d rather Bergman/Jones play on Curnow."
"Curnow would kick 12.8 on Jonas. Too fast, too big, too athletic"
"We're replacing McKenzie's absolute left foot cannon with a Jonas' serviceable 30m sideways chip passes. That's a huge loss."
"It's alright, he'll only touch it once or twice. Probably for the best."
"Will Curnow be at the coin toss? That will about as close as Jonas will get to him if so."
"Jonas in has all the hallmarks of being able to pinpoint where a promising season disappeared before our eyes. He's a poor match-up on any Carlton players, but no matter how badly he goes, if he's in now they've decided he's a McKenzie replacement, so in for at least the time until he's back. Even that is wishful thinking, we aren't dropping him a week or two before finals."
General
"We need to bury the Blues - 40+.
Our midfield is faster and more skilful. Ferraris vs commodores.
Our forward line is more dynamic and talented.
Our defensive six have prioritised speed and talent over height and one on one ability.
We should crush these AFL rich boy darlings.
Would love an aggressive Pasini debut but I think, bergs back, Xavs to the wing and Narkle in up front makes sense.
Happy for Evans to sub or debut The Wolverine- it’s time, cracking game."
"Essentially an elimination final for the blues next week. Will be a good test for us.
Anyone know their record at Marvel?"
"Blues up and about. All of a sudden this game just got very interesting.
Expect the Blues faithful to pack out Marvel Stadium as they look to help their team break an interstate raiders 13-game winning streak….and also expect the 2015-16 umpiring treatment too."
"Yes. But Curnow and McKay as dual tall and very mobile forward targets for Carlton is quite formidable.
Aliir takes one next week. Who takes the other?"
"McKay played back into form."
"Yep - the midfield delivery to him and Curnow has been elite. Despite Freo having a huge ruck dominance with
47 hit outs (to 8) thus far Carlton are killing the centre clearances to advantage. "
Nullifying that midfield dominance once the ball hits the deck. That's obviously the focus for us against them next week..
"Drop ken as Carlton have no reckonized coach"
"Don’t know why we’ve struggled against this side away. Since the start of ‘07, we’ve only beaten the blues in Melbourne twice (2014 and 2018), so this assignment will be anything but easy."
"Carlton away in WA this evening, will be very tough for them to back it up on a Marvel deck we play well.
We get in to a mini tough run after this with Collingwood - Crows - Geelong"
"Posted this in today's game thread but fits here.
Against Carlton at Docklands next week - and they have no (recognised) ruck with both Marc Pittonet and De Koning out due to injury. So no need for a tap ruckman with no mobility as it will leave our mids exposed to a smaller faster centre bounce set up.
So Hayes out. (sorry Schulzy :cry:).
Give Dixon and his peg leg a well earned rest before Collingwood.
Bring in Ollie Lord (who's back from suspension) to rotate with Finlayson in the ruck
And I'm not sure what we do to replace McKenzie if his ankle is something serious but the SANFL form of a couple of players looks pretty good and surely Duursma has done enough to get a spot back in the As.
Narkle stays in. And maybe Burgoyne gets another look with Rioli out for personal reasons."
"If we can repeat the 3rd quarter against the Suns, we'll be hard to beat anyway (although playing just 1 quarter this week may be fraught with danger)."
In reply to a Bluebagger:
"Should be a good game this week, BAT. Carlton has been in good form, but these days, Port loses at Marvel about as often as I meet intelligent Crows fans."
"Carlton supporters have always been the most delusional. Felt sorry for them at times but I think they are in need of another reality check."
"Carlton supporters are very, very confident they will beat us."
"Just a few days ago, this was just like any other game to me. Now I really want to put them back in their box!
Yeah they are, I had one taunting me saying they will be 5th after this weekend. Game will be won in the centre if we starve their forwards - Game Over."
There was this classy reply to the post above
"now i hope we piss blast them in their faces"
(if anyone can explain to me what piss blast is that would be great, doesn't sound pleasant thought)
"I find them highly annoying - every time we play them the ranga Cotterill has a decent game. I don't think I've seen him play a good game against any of the other 16 teams."
"Matthew Kennedy out for Carlton avoids acl but will miss 6 weeks"
"That's a loss for us. Very ordinary footballer."
Jonas is a thug and thats his only value...Narkle is a spud and Allir soft and over-rated.
Mckenzie is nothing special either apart from his kicking.
Hope we win by 1 point via a controversial free kick after the siren and send those Port ferals home as miserable as possible.
Jonas is a thug and thats his only value...Narkle is a spud and Allir soft and over-rated.
Mckenzie is nothing special either apart from his kicking.
Hope we win by 1 point via a controversial free kick after the siren and send those Port ferals home as miserable as possible.
If had magic powers to chose the outcome, I'd prefer an embarrassing thrashing leaving them questioning their flag hopes and eating their young.
If had magic powers to chose the outcome, I'd prefer an embarrassing thrashing leaving them questioning their flag hopes and eating their young.
That would be another handy scenario😊👍, I just want to see them screaming and frothing at the mouth how they have been robbed and stewing over it. They have tortured us for years with Robbie Gray kicking match winning last quarter goals and Id love Harry to be the one that kicks a prayer shot banana from the wrong side of the ground that wobbles its way through the middle.They might get that thrashing when they play Collingwood the following week.
Voss would want to pay attention to Ports players, they are not second on the ladder for nothing and have a lot of players we will struggle to contain if we don't get the matchups right. They are probably at their most gettable in this game and we don't want to feck it up by being complacent.
We can make finals but things have to go right and a win vs Port might be worth 8 points in the final washup.
Don't want any strange experimental selections or stupid tactical mistakes like allowing players like Butters, Rozee etc to run around on their own like we do sometimes.
The thing about footy is that it's a game of momentum and the monent and we've got momentum in spades at the moment. Over Rounds 14-17, we're:
Eighth for Inside-50s,
Equal fourth for Marks inside 50,
Second for Scores per inside 50,
First for Goals per inside 50,
Third for Shots at goal,
First for Points scored,
Third for Shot at goal accuracy, and
Third for Set shot scoring accuracy.
Our defence is more than capable of making life very difficult for Dixon, Finlayson, Marshall and Rioli but I doubt whether Hinkley is confident that his defence can stifle our forwards. Similarly, our midfield is in a rare vein of form and will trouble any opposition, even with Kennedy missing. Our rucks are a problem but Hayes is a novice and shouldn't worry us.
If we bring the same energy and endeavour as we have over the last three rounds, Hinkley will have a torrid time in the coach's box.
Our defence is more than capable of making life very difficult for Dixon, Finlayson, Marshall and Rioli but I doubt whether Hinkley is confident that his defence can stifle our forwards. Similarly, our midfield is in a rare vein of form and will trouble any opposition, even with Kennedy missing. Our rucks are a problem but Hayes is a novice and shouldn't worry us.
Don't jinx us! ;)
Most AFL coaches try to stop the scoring by negating the source rather than stop the scoring once it's inside 50. I'd be gobsmacked if Hinkley's focus isn't 100% Midfield domination, and they will go to school on the Young / SoJ ruck habits as part of that as well as our next man in focus.
I'd be forcing us to go wide from stoppages, and close up space on the likes of Walsh and Cerra who are knocked up on getting footy on the spread. The trick for us is going to be what can we do if the let us take the footy 1st but stop us having someone to give it to!
I'd look for any signs of us over doing handball early on, it'll be a symptom of our options being closed off!
Away from the Midfield, the last three weeks we scored a lot from forcing turnovers, Saad, Boyd, Doc, Kemp, Cincotta and last week Cottrell have all been relentless at hunting the footy, with Fogarty and Cunningham combined with Walsh and Cerra have been good users of it. What do they do if Port surrender the front spot?
That’s the word I was looking for LP; “relentless”.
If we can be relentless again, we should win.
I think the rucks could be a concern. Port has done OK with losing rucks and won’t be expecting an armchair ride like Freo’s mids were.
The thing about footy is that it's a game of momentum and the monent and we've got momentum in spades at the moment. Over Rounds 14-17, we're:
Eighth for Inside-50s,
Equal fourth for Marks inside 50,
Second for Scores per inside 50,
First for Goals per inside 50,
Third for Shots at goal,
First for Points scored,
Third for Shot at goal accuracy, and
Third for Set shot scoring accuracy.
Our defence is more than capable of making life very difficult for Dixon, Finlayson, Marshall and Rioli but I doubt whether Hinkley is confident that his defence can stifle our forwards. Similarly, our midfield is in a rare vein of form and will trouble any opposition, even with Kennedy missing. Our rucks are a problem but Hayes is a novice and shouldn't worry us.
If we bring the same energy and endeavour as we have over the last three rounds, Hinkley will have a torrid time in the coach's box.
I agree however if Gov is missing that will put a hole in the defence (unless TDK comes in and Young goes back).
Gov out is it time for "Return of the Marchbank" ??
Wanganeen 1993
Was he a defender then or mid/fwd?
Nah, a professional diver and umpire harasser.
Ports midfield is a lot better than anyone here is giving them credit for. Boak pops up when the going gets tough. Ollie wines is playing good footy. SPP throws his weight around and is like a bull in a China shop. Butters and rozee have a great one two punch and plenty of outside run. This will be a good contest at the source.
Ports midfield is a lot better than anyone here is giving them credit for. Boak pops up when the going gets tough. Ollie wines is playing good footy. SPP throws his weight around and is like a bull in a China shop. Butters and rozee have a great one two punch and plenty of outside run. This will be a good contest at the source.
Lycett and Duursma look like playing too...
Ports midfield is a lot better than anyone here is giving them credit for. Boak pops up when the going gets tough. Ollie wines is playing good footy. SPP throws his weight around and is like a bull in a China shop. Butters and rozee have a great one two punch and plenty of outside run. This will be a good contest at the source.
Im certainly not dismissing their midfield, they are top shelf, bat deep and ours has it work cut out this week.
This is the hardest challenge not even considering just the midfield. To stay within 3 goals by the final siren is a huge result. I will be happy if we stay close to 2 or 3 goals behind at the end of the game. Might fall 4 or 5 goals short. Either way, we need the experience against a real contender. A side that is a bench mark. If you make the top 8, you come up against sides like Port each week. Surely it must be character building your club needs. To learn from. This is where Voss can use his past experience. Am I wrong?
This is the hardest challenge not even considering just the midfield. To stay within 3 goals by the final siren is a huge result. I will be happy if we stay close to 2 or 3 goals behind at the end of the game. Might fall 4 or 5 goals short. Either way, we need the experience against a real contender. A side that is a bench mark. If you make the top 8, you come up against sides like Port each week. Surely it must be character building your club needs. To learn from. This is where Voss can use his past experience. Am I wrong?
Agree. I think we can make it hard for them and make it a close game IF we bring the intensity and pressure of the last 3 weeks. Forget who we played, the attitude, effort and selflessness in our last three games is what teams like PA and Coll bring every single week. If we can at a minimum replicate it against these contending teams, Ill be happy. Of course a win would make me ecstatic.
And not forgetting Horne-Francis in the midfield and forward as well. Will definitely be a step up from the opposition of the last 3 weeks.
We have not beaten anyone of substance thus far this season, the three wins recently mean nothing.
Roll Port and we may be taken seriously, lose and we are back where we belong.
This is a winnable game, must pull out all stops.
.............the three wins recently mean nothing.
...................
I disagree. Fremantle and Gold Coast are both 7/9 in the W/L (the same as us except for the draw), and Hawthorn can and did beat the Lions. You don't win those three consecutive games by 10 goals without doing a fair bit right.
You can pivot any victory towards the negative. If we beat Port, then we can say it doesn't mean anything because they were due for a loss. If we beat the Pies, then we can say McRae had a rare bad day in the box etc., we got lucky with the umpires etc.
Whether we play brilliantly or awfully for the rest of the season, those three victories were good.
I disagree. Fremantle and Gold Coast are both 7/9 in the W/L (the same as us except for the draw), and Hawthorn can and did beat the Lions. You don't win those three consecutive games by 10 goals without doing a fair bit right.
You can pivot any victory towards the negative. If we beat Port, then we can say it doesn't mean anything because they were due for a loss. If we beat the Pies, then we can say McRae had a rare bad day in the box etc., we got lucky with the umpires etc.
Whether we play brilliantly or awfully for the rest of the season, those three victories were good.
Agree and disagree. Agree the last three wins were good, very good in fact. Disagree if we were to beat PA and Coll that they could be construed as negative. PA and Coll will play in the GF IMO. If we were to beat them both it would be massive for us and we would definitely gain some respect in the wider football community. Every game from now on is an elimination final for us. Whether we sneak into the 8 or not, games against teams above us are practice finals so we should be going hell for leather to win them whether it benefits us now or in future (as Doc said on 360) doesn't matter, we will learn something one way or another. On 360 the other night, Doc talked about the work they have been doing around how they want to play, what they stand for and what they want teams who we have played to say about us. It reminded me of a T-Shirt I saw a guy wearing at one of the very few local soccer games I went to years ago. It read "Loved by few, Hated by many, Feared by all". I'd kinda like my club to be known like that.
Hated by many, Feared by all". I'd kinda like my club to be known like that.
Might be too late for that.
The last time I saw national survey figures, within Victoria we were the 2nd most supported team narrowly behind the Filth, nationally we were actually 1st on the supporter base.
I suppose it's because the Filth tend to only flea to interstate when they are being pursued by authorities!
( Yes I know it's flee not flea, but for the filth using flea seems so much more appropriate! ) ;)
Looking like Dixon and Rioli are out as well.
Agree and disagree. Agree the last three wins were good, very good in fact. Disagree if we were to beat PA and Coll that they could be construed as negative...............
I guess what I was getting at is that some will put a negative spin on anything. You only need to read page 1 of this thread to see that some are positioning any possible victory as the Port equivalent of the Keating "recession they had to have."
I disagree. Fremantle and Gold Coast are both 7/9 in the W/L (the same as us except for the draw), and Hawthorn can and did beat the Lions. You don't win those three consecutive games by 10 goals without doing a fair bit right.
You can pivot any victory towards the negative. If we beat Port, then we can say it doesn't mean anything because they were due for a loss. If we beat the Pies, then we can say McRae had a rare bad day in the box etc., we got lucky with the umpires etc.
Whether we play brilliantly or awfully for the rest of the season, those three victories were good.
Me too!
This season is remarkable for the unpredictable results; it seems that any team can get up on match day regardless of the opposition. Even the cellar dwellers have recorded wins or threatened an upset.
Freo and Gold Coast were above us on the ladder when we played them. Gold Coast have had some significant wins this season; Geelong, Richmond, Footscray and Adelaide. Freo has accounted for Sydney, Geelong, Melbourne and Essendon. Hawthorn beat Brisbane and St Kilda.
Then there's the manner of those wins; we didn't just fall over the line, we handed out decent shellackings.
It's going to be a tough assignment but, if we play the same relentless footy that we've produced over the last three games, we should prevail.
Sam Edmund
@Sammy__Edmund
There’s some sore boys at Port Adelaide we hear. Could be as many as five changes. Unconfirmed, but the whisper is Jason Horne-Francis and Charlie Dixon among the absentees against Carlton. Not sure Lycett has come up again either.
When was the last time we won 4 in a row?
Sam Edmund
@Sammy__Edmund
There’s some sore boys at Port Adelaide we hear. Could be as many as five changes. Unconfirmed, but the whisper is Jason Horne-Francis and Charlie Dixon among the absentees against Carlton. Not sure Lycett has come up again either.
Wouldn't be the first time that all the planets are in alignment for a memorable underdog victory, for us to fail miserably. My scars over the years have not healed over yet.
When was the last time we won 4 in a row?
Not sure, but the recent one I remember is R5-R8, 2016.
When was the last time we won 4 in a row?
Last year, rounds 7 8 9 10
Wouldn't be the first time that all the planets are in alignment for a memorable underdog victory, for us to fail miserably. My scars over the years have not healed over yet.
Three weeks in a row, the boys have gone out and got the job done (as they should have). I personally dont care who's is in or out for us or them, what I want is that the no nonsense, high pressure, high intensity, selfless footy continues until round 24 and if those planets align, beyond.
Three weeks in a row, the boys have gone out and got the job done (as they should have). I personally dont care who's is in or out for us or them, what I want is that the no nonsense, high pressure, high intensity, selfless footy continues until round 24 and if those planets align, beyond.
I think most importantly, they more than got the job done.
Is it just me, or does the team seem more ruthless in the last 3 weeks? Easy to say against average opposition, but 3 weeks in a row they have put the foot down, and not let up. I've been waiting for ruthless to come back into our playing agenda for over 20 years.
That is new...... and I think gives them a chance against better opposition. I guess we'll find out on Saturday.
looks like the word is out about Port absentees, odds on the AFL website are not far from break-even now
Hmmmm not sure i like this news as much as most blues fans - liked the thought of them as favorites and us as underdogs.
Now the pressure is back on us to win this while they are weakened which in the past never worked out well for us!
Hopefully we have progressed past that
Looking like Dixon and Rioli are out as well.
Good in that our defence has a better chance. Bad in that we won't get an assessment against one of the best. Regardless, I hope we show the same insatiable appetite for the contest, tackle hard, and show some dare & flair 4q.
I just have this hunch Cezz will surprise a few on Brownlow night.
Mat Priddis style
7 changes for Port wowee
7 changes for Port wowee
🫨
Trent McKenzie (injured), Charlie Dixon (soreness) and Jason Horne-Francis (back) out.
I wonder who the other 4 are?
Rioli ?
That's a lot of change.
Trent McKenzie (injured), Charlie Dixon (soreness) and Jason Horne-Francis (back) out.
I wonder who the other 4 are?
Rioli ?
That's a lot of change.
In: T.Jonas, X.Duursma, O.Lord, S.Lycett, J.Mead, J.Burgoyne
Out: R.Burton (omitted), S.Hayes (omitted), Q.Narkle (omitted), T.McKenzie (ankle), C.Dixon (soreness), J.Horne-Francis (back soreness), J.Rioli (personal reason)
And for us :
In: T.De Koning
Out: Le.Young (omitted), M.Kennedy (knee)
R17 sub: George Hewett
7 changes for Port wowee
Resting some for the Pies?
Resting some for the Pies?
Playing mind games?
Presumably Marchbank on standby for McGovern?
If they wanna rest blokes, so be it. But this is a big chance for us this weekend......with West Coast next weekend also in Melbourne. Could have us right on the edge of the 8.
Carlton are favourites with the bookies now LMAO
Bad in that we won't get an assessment against one of the best.
If we win I will absolutely rate it. There is only 3 of the seven that are not omitted. So the rest are changes they decided to make.
We lost Kennedy so they are only 2 changes worse than us.
I’m not sure if what I just posted made any sense 😂
What im trying it say is losing 2-3 good players out of 21 doesn’t bring you down as much as fans think. All teams get injuries and the best teams like port and pies handle them very well. You don’t win 12 in a row without being a very strong even team
They will still be very hard to beat and should still be warm favourites.
Presumably Marchbank on standby for McGovern?
If they wanna rest blokes, so be it. But this is a big chance for us this weekend......with West Coast next weekend also in Melbourne. Could have us right on the edge of the 8.
🤦🏻
If we win I will absolutely rate it. There is only 3 of the seven that are not omitted. So the rest are changes they decided to make.
We lost Kennedy so they are only 2 changes worse than us.
I’m not sure if what I just posted made any sense 😂
What im trying it say is losing 2-3 good players out of 21 doesn’t bring you down as much as fans think. All teams get injuries and the best teams like port and pies handle them very well. You don’t win 12 in a row without being a very strong even team
They will still be very hard to beat and should still be warm favourites.
Yep. I get it.
The headline worked on me - took me back a bit.
I don't think we're favourites to win this one either. I take the odds thing with a grain of salt.
Yep. I get it.
The headline worked on me - took me back a bit.
I don't think we're favourites to win this one either. I take the odds thing with a grain of salt.
Yep me too. If we play our best we will get it done I reckon. If you do and then beat WC we will go into pies game with 5 in a row.
Imagine how big that game will be.
Yeah I know one week at a time 😉
Yep. I get it.
The headline worked on me - took me back a bit.
I don't think we're favourites to win this one either. I take the odds thing with a grain of salt.
Odds are odds
Saturday, 15 Jul 16:35
Head to Head
Carlton 1.84
Port Adelaide 1.96
Line
(-1.5) Carlton 1.90
(+1.5) Port Adelaide 1.90
Total Game Points - Over/Under
Carlton 1.88 Over (+166.5)
Port Adelaide 1.88 Under (+166.5)
Kornes, this morning said that Carlton should win because of the Port outs and it is under the roof at Marvel. Protecting his beloved Port.
Kornes, this morning said that Carlton should win because of the Port outs and it is under the roof at Marvel. Protecting his beloved Port.
I have tipped us. 👍
There wouldn't be many times when the eleventh placed team is favourite to win over the second placed team.
There wouldn't be many times when the eleventh placed team is favourite to win over the second placed team.
We have been thr bookies favourite in a lot of games this year.
Kornes, this morning said that Carlton should win because of the Port outs and it is under the roof at Marvel. Protecting his beloved Port.
Rumours Lycett won't get up and Duursma also has to pass a fitness test.They still have a decent team and I'd have it as 50/50...
If we win I will absolutely rate it. There is only 3 of the seven that are not omitted. So the rest are changes they decided to make.
We lost Kennedy so they are only 2 changes worse than us.
I’m not sure if what I just posted made any sense 😂
What im trying it say is losing 2-3 good players out of 21 doesn’t bring you down as much as fans think. All teams get injuries and the best teams like port and pies handle them very well. You don’t win 12 in a row without being a very strong even team
They will still be very hard to beat and should still be warm favourites.
That makes perfect sense :)
I suspect that Dixon and Horne-Francis would be in the 22 if they were playing Collingwood in Adelaide. Perhaps they've committed the cardinal sin of taking the opposition too lightly.
Kornes, this morning said that Carlton should win because of the Port outs and it is under the roof at Marvel. Protecting his beloved Port.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/13/why-there-is-no-excuse-for-blues-not-to-topple-banged-up-power-at-marvel/?fbclid=IwAR33goatJeobcIkZunnC_qXDNlLS_t_zVdaGiX91uayHbiVUhT5XPeqkqHI_aem_AefqspRHmrS841g0j6LvLSE_g5znuXZPfr67kbgwvX9gLt-N2-raS58RKDEF6hk46n4
According to this week’s AFL injury update, Port has five injured players to our ten … but why let the facts get in the way of a good yarn Kane?
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According to this week’s AFL injury update, Port has five injured players to our ten … but why let the facts get in the way of a good yarn Kane?
Indeed. Cornes rarely lets the truth get in the way of one of his moronic statements.
Any news as to whether McGovern is going to play? We are better with him, even with Port's stupidity.
Marchbank - I'm not sure I would want to depend on him. Not that he's a bad player, quite the opposite, but I would worry about his match fitness.
McGovern has to undergo a light fitness test to be able to play today. Voss seems to think he will pull through.
McGovern has to undergo a light fitness test to be able to play today. Voss seems to think he will pull through.
If he needs a test he shouldn't be playing.
If he needs a test he shouldn't be playing.
He won't get up, ducks and drakes going on there.
How on earth are we favourites FFS, it's second on a roll versus 15th.
How on earth are we favourites FFS, it's second on a roll versus 15th.
We have won 3 in a row!!!
Quietly GWS have won 4 in a row with a top 4 scalp.
How on earth are we favourites FFS, it's second on a roll versus 15th.
The important outs Freo have plus Kane Cornes seems to be suggesting they are very banged up overall and due for a loss.
I still think its 50/50 and will be a tough game, very winnable for us but not so clear cut like the odds suggest.
How on earth are we favourites FFS, it's second on a roll versus 15th.
Dumb and Dumber comes to mind.
Like I've said, I don’t give the "odds" any credence. IMO we're not going in as favourites. Many ordinary people would agree. Remember the odds are about profiteering, gambling, and for some poor souls, addiction.
Go Blues.
Dow the sub
Dow the sub
So Gov playing?
So Gov playing?
Named in the line-up
Owies Out Motlop in
Come on boys. 4 behinds (1 rushed).
Finally. Nice soccer goal Jack S.
Playing well, but 2.5 - I don't like it.
3.5 well done Jesse
H injured.
Butters carves us up. Respect the guy please