Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

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Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #45 – June 30, 2020, 01:08:35 pm

Quote from: cookie2 on June 30, 2020, 11:50:22 am

@LP
Agree. I don't think Plow should be dropped atm either but we do need to keep a watchful eye on him. I'm sure he is being made aware of where he needs to improve or play differently, as hopefully, are all the players.

Plowman will probably get Membrey and I dont like that matchup, the Stkilda player plays taller and is a good converter and in recent times Plowman seems to have struggled with the body on body stuff and I see him as the weak link in the backline.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #46 – June 30, 2020, 02:13:58 pm

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on June 30, 2020, 01:08:35 pm

Plowman will probably get Membrey and I dont like that matchup, the Stkilda player plays taller and is a good converter and in recent times Plowman seems to have struggled with the body on body stuff and I see him as the weak link in the backline.

Yes agree. Both he and Jones look a little off the pace in recent times.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #47 – June 30, 2020, 06:05:59 pm

Geary apparently a big chance to play.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #48 – June 30, 2020, 06:58:04 pm

Quote from: PaulP on June 30, 2020, 02:13:58 pm

Yes agree. Both he and Jones look a little off the pace in recent times.

Nothing wrong with Jones ATM, he and Weiters are pillars. Haven't been this confident in our back line in years (Plowman aside). Marchbank is not the answer either, gets beaten way to easy and too often for my liking. Coupled with the fact that he cant stay on the park is almost rendering him surplus (or useless depending on how you want to look at it).

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #49 – June 30, 2020, 06:59:02 pm

Quote from: PaulP on June 30, 2020, 06:05:59 pm

Geary apparently a big chance to play.

Now that its been moved from the G to Basketball Stadium, I am even less confident.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #50 – June 30, 2020, 07:04:09 pm

Compare the pair
Round 22 last year vs Saints
In the team
Dow
DeLuca
Kennedy
Krueser
Lang
Newman
O’Brien
Silvagni
Thomas

Missing last year
Jones
Weitering
Martin
Doc
Pittonet
Betts
Cuningham
Williamson
Philps

Some nice ‘ins’ from last year’s victorious team!!

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #51 – June 30, 2020, 07:23:16 pm

Quote from: townsendcalling on June 30, 2020, 07:04:09 pm

Compare the pair
Round 22 last year vs Saints
In the team
Dow
DeLuca
Kennedy
Krueser
Lang
Newman
O’Brien
Silvagni
Thomas

Missing last year
Jones
Weitering
Martin
Doc
Pittonet
Betts
Cuningham
Williamson
Philps

Some nice ‘ins’ from last year’s victorious team!!

Their ins
Jones
Hill
Hannebery (missed last year I think)
King
Butler
Ryder
Some handy additions. Hill and Butler need to be stopped.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #52 – June 30, 2020, 07:49:50 pm

Quote from: Gointocarlton on June 30, 2020, 07:23:16 pm

Their ins
Jones
Hill
Hannebery (missed last year I think)
King
Butler
Ryder
Some handy additions. Hill and Butler need to be stopped.

Jones apparently not playing this week. Ryder didn't play last week. Expect he misses this week too.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #53 – June 30, 2020, 08:49:57 pm

Quote from: Thryleon on June 30, 2020, 07:49:50 pm

Jones apparently not playing this week. Ryder didn't play last week. Expect he misses this week too.

Jones won't play with a tight hammy, Ryder was rested/managed, I'd expect him to be playing given the form of Pittonet and how the Saints setup usually. Sinclair may come in for Jones..

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #54 – July 01, 2020, 09:51:42 am

Quote from: townsendcalling on June 30, 2020, 01:04:53 pm

Give Simmo a rest!

If Fish does come in, which seems likely, what about giving Murph a rest this week. I know he was good last week, but coming off a 5 day break? Settled backlines are important and I reckon there will be a lot more work put in to Doc this week so Simmo may need to help out more with that run and delivery from defence.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #55 – July 01, 2020, 10:29:43 am

Have been watching Butlers progress closely.

Was getting interest from Gold Coast last draft, then Carlton.

He was very keen to get to Carlton, coming from a family of big Blue Bagger supporters.

Suddenly, SOS refused to answer his calls because of the Swans drama...

Saints rang at last minute.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #56 – July 01, 2020, 10:42:29 am

Quote from: Wet Willie on July 01, 2020, 10:29:43 am

Have been watching Butlers progress closely.

Was getting interest from Gold Coast last draft, then Carlton.

He was very keen to get to Carlton, coming from a family of big Blue Bagger supporters.

Suddenly, SOS refused to answer his calls because of the Swans drama...

Saints rang at last minute.

In retrospect it looks like a bad deal, but at the time there were very few if any fans on this forum who were interested in Butler, in fact most didn't want to touch him!

Would he have the same impact at Carlton, are we physical enough to carry a player of his style?

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #57 – July 01, 2020, 05:28:02 pm

Quote from: Wet Willie on July 01, 2020, 10:29:43 am

Have been watching Butlers progress closely.

Was getting interest from Gold Coast last draft, then Carlton.

He was very keen to get to Carlton, coming from a family of big Blue Bagger supporters.

Suddenly, SOS refused to answer his calls because of the Swans drama...

Saints rang at last minute.

Correct me if I am wrong but Richmond moved Butler on right? If so, most players tend to grow a leg when they get a kick in the pants and moved on. Look at Robbo for example. There is no way in hell he would have won a B&F at Carlton. Now I understand comparing B&F winners at different clubs is a little difficult but you get what I mean.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #58 – July 01, 2020, 06:13:46 pm

Lets see if Butler can go the journey and play at the level he is now for the rest of the season, he would be used to getting the 5th or 6th defender when he was at Richmond and now he is showing some form and being the main event lets see how he handles it when he manned up closer and by better players.
Sam Walsh has come under more attention and Jack Martin was heavily tagged last game and its the class players who can handle that extra attention week in and week out who are a cut above the rest and I want to see how Butler performs before I label him a recruiting fail on our behalf.
In fairness to SOS he probably thought he had Papley across the line before Essendon fecked up the Daniher move and in turn the Papley trade. With Papley, Eddie and Martin all likely he probably felt Butler was one too many of that ilk.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #59 – July 01, 2020, 06:25:18 pm

In H and Fish
Out SOS and Philp
These two better perform.