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Title: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: crashlander on May 13, 2019, 07:32:02 pm
Sat 18th May at 1400 at Ikon Park. Originally it was supposed to be held at Preston.
There may be a few guys coming back, but the team will lose somebody to replace Willo and Plow.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: Baggers on May 14, 2019, 06:09:43 pm
The game is being live streamed on the CFC YouTube channel. Ripper.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: crashlander on May 14, 2019, 07:03:28 pm
The game is being live streamed on the CFC YouTube channel. Ripper.
x2
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: crashlander on May 16, 2019, 08:28:17 pm
(http://northernbluesfc.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/VFLTeamMay16.jpg)
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: crashlander on May 18, 2019, 10:26:37 am
NORTHERN BLUES v. FRANKSTON
Round 7 - 18/05/2019
02:00    IKON Park

Northern Blues
B: 77. M. Blakey, ............, 21. J. Garlett
HB: ............., 45. H. Goddard, ............
C: 60. J.  Hill, 16. D.  Lang, 4. L.  O'Brien
HF: 55. J. O'Rourke, 36. P. Kerr, 53. J. Palmer
F: 32. A. Fasolo, ............... 29. C. Polson
R: 34. A. Phillips, 7. M. Kennedy, 69. S. Fisher
Int: 46. M. Cottrell, 25. K. Keppel, 42. K. LeBois, 27. M. Lobbe, 64. J. Lynch, 44. M. Owies, 19. A. Schumacher, 37. B. Silvagni, 52. M. Stavrou, 66. G. Strachan, 54. J. Velissaris, 72. N. Wheeler
23P: 73. O. White

Frankston
B: 1. D. Gordon, 14. L. Hiscock, 2. J. Newman
HB: 11. B. Mullane, 25. M. Williams, 6. L. Williams
C: 22. G.  Lok, 3. C.  Rich, 13. A.  Styles
HF: 31. R. Turnbull, 18. S. Tatupu, 7. Y. Zijai
F: 8. A. Ferreira, 35. R. D'Arcy, 9. N. Freeman
R: 30. J. Miller, 5. W. Fordham, 15. A. Jarnestrom
Int: 12. B. Bailey, 29. N. Fahey, 17. A. Harnett, 40. J. Kingsbury, 33. J. McHale, 47. J. Richards, 32. K. Wilson, 36. J. Woodman
23P: 27. J. Rendell
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 18, 2019, 02:37:36 pm
Very average game skillwise so far, Blues up by 7 points@quarter time
Best players...Kerr, Goddard, Philips, Stavrou........Polsen, lang and Fazzy boy have been handy

Fisher has turned the ball over three times with some lazy left foot kicks and I reckon he wont be play AFL anytime soon, also got pinged
holding the ball for a goal to Frankston as well.

Kerr has 3 goals now and is BOG, deserves a senior game...
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: Baggers on May 18, 2019, 03:41:44 pm
Talk about a game with little to no intensity! A lot of lazy footy.

Good to see Fas and Darcy getting a bit of the aggott but we have to remember that we're playing the bottom side - and making them look a lot better than they are.

12 minute mark of the 3rd, NBs by 8pts.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: laj on May 18, 2019, 03:49:13 pm
Ker's having a good game. Has 4.

Poor bugger can't find a spot. He can play.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: Baggers on May 18, 2019, 03:58:47 pm
3/4 time

NBs  8.9.57

Franger  6.9.45

Kerr: 5gls

Lang leading possession winner on the ground

Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 18, 2019, 04:01:16 pm
Ker's having a good game. Has 4.

Poor bugger can't find a spot. He can play.

I'd be playing him in a few games and tempted to use Charlie on a wing or McGovern down back, he is a big unit and draws the ball well on the lead.
Dont want him going to another club and becoming a decent player...
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: laj on May 18, 2019, 04:09:19 pm
I'd be playing him in a few games and tempted to use Charlie on a wing or McGovern down back, he is a big unit and draws the ball well on the lead.
Dont want him going to another club and becoming a decent player...

Has 5 now.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: Baggers on May 18, 2019, 04:10:04 pm
Not much to get enthused about other than (of the CFC listed blokes) Lang, Kerr and maybe Goddard and Shumacher.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: Baggers on May 18, 2019, 04:17:26 pm
11 mins into the last qtr.

NBs          10.9.69

Franger      7.9.51
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: Baggers on May 18, 2019, 04:27:26 pm
20 mins into the final qtr.

NBs       12.9

Franger  9.9

Kerr 6
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: PaulP on May 18, 2019, 04:33:14 pm
Without the nonsense commentary, 20 cameras and 8000 replays, watching this is almost like being at the ground. I like it. You can focus more on the game itself.

 The NB's have been ok, given our outs.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: PaulP on May 18, 2019, 04:34:44 pm
Lang reminds me a little of Bryce. Good win by the NB's. Kerr had a nice day out.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: Baggers on May 18, 2019, 04:39:43 pm
Final Score.

NBs       13.10.88

Franger  9.9.63

Kerr: 6

Liked: Kerr, Lang, Goddard, Shumacher. Stavrou and Fisher good for NB listed blokes.

Fasolo 2 goals in the final qtr (on ball most of the game), encouraging signs.

Encouraging signs from Owies.

Polson started well but faded badly.

Ordinary game.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: laj on May 18, 2019, 04:40:31 pm
6 for Kerr!
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: LoveNavy on May 18, 2019, 05:30:45 pm
Ker's having a good game. Has 4.

Poor bugger can't find a spot. He can play.

With his strong form, I'd put him in and get Charlie in the 2's to regain his form. Not that my views mean anything ????
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 18, 2019, 05:35:39 pm
With his strong form, I'd put him in and get Charlie in the 2's to regain his form. Not that my views mean anything ????

x2....you need depth to be a good team and competition for places..
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: townsendcalling on May 18, 2019, 06:11:26 pm
With his strong form, I'd put him in and get Charlie in the 2's to regain his form. Not that my views mean anything ????

That’s fine but you need to make sure that you are replacing a like with a like. I don’t think Kerr and Charlie play the same role. Having said that, Kerr kicking 6 should give Charlie a bit of a needle.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: DJC on May 18, 2019, 06:38:27 pm
That’s fine but you need to make sure that you are replacing a like with a like. I don’t think Kerr and Charlie play the same role. Having said that, Kerr kicking 6 should give Charlie a bit of a needle.

True - if anything Kerr would be putting pressure on McKay and McGovern.

I thought Charlie was good last week and is a long way from deserving a run in the NBs.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: kruddler on May 18, 2019, 07:33:35 pm
Depending on how he goes this week, swap Kerr for Casboult.

Send McGovern down back if required and use Kerr as ruck backup.....or Harry.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: bratblue on May 18, 2019, 07:36:35 pm
There will be a few sides eyeing Kerr if we can't offer him a progression into the 1's.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 18, 2019, 07:51:32 pm
There will be a few sides eyeing Kerr if we can't offer him a progression into the 1's.

Agree....I think he would get picked up by another club...big bodied KP forwards are hard to get and he has a lot going for him IMO.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: jeza on May 18, 2019, 07:59:10 pm
True - if anything Kerr would be putting pressure on McKay and McGovern.

I thought Charlie was good last week and is a long way from deserving a run in the NBs.

Agreed - that was Charlie's best game all season. Hopefully he goes on with it tomorrow.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: kruddler on May 18, 2019, 09:06:04 pm
Agree....I think he would get picked up by another club...big bodied KP forwards are hard to get and he has a lot going for him IMO.

I think the doggies will be in the market for one....
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: flyboy77 on May 19, 2019, 09:30:24 am
Didn't realise Kerr was quite as big as he is - 196cm, 97kg.....

Great trade bait surely?

And not bagging the guy at all, just not going to get a regular game with Charlie, Harry and the Guv in the mix.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: cookie2 on May 19, 2019, 11:25:42 am
I think the doggies will be in the market for one....

They have some handy mids we could try for!  ;)
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: LP on May 19, 2019, 11:28:41 am
Didn't realise Kerr was quite as big as he is - 196cm, 97kg.....

Great trade bait surely?

And not bagging the guy at all, just not going to get a regular game with Charlie, Harry and the Guv in the mix.

Kerr is the natural replacement for Casboult.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 19, 2019, 11:57:32 am
Didn't realise Kerr was quite as big as he is - 196cm, 97kg.....

Great trade bait surely?

And not bagging the guy at all, just not going to get a regular game with Charlie, Harry and the Guv in the mix.

No way should we trade him IMO, worth more to us IMO and you only need a couple of injuries to those three and we are stuffed, as it is we may need McGovern down back more
if we keep losing soldiers.
Didnt mind Goddards game either, clunks a good mark and can kick the ball ok, Schumacher has some ability too and is a good mark and kick but some of his decision making isnt great.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: Thryleon on May 19, 2019, 12:18:32 pm
No way should we trade him IMO, worth more to us IMO and you only need a couple of injuries to those three and we are stuffed, as it is we may need McGovern down back more
if we keep losing soldiers.
Didnt mind Goddards game either, clunks a good mark and can kick the ball ok, Schumacher has some ability too and is a good mark and kick but some of his decision making isnt great.

Schumacher has time on his side.  Only a second year player, and imho worth persisting with in case docherty never gets back and Williamson stays broken.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: LP on May 19, 2019, 12:45:23 pm
Two rucks worked very well for NB yesterday, in combination with Kerr and Goddard.

I gather we'd have played them both anyway, but it's a clear case of being smart about choosing your battles, when you can and when you can't play two rucks.

Polson was OK yesterday, not too many possessions but a good percentage of then resulted in us scoring.

Didn't think much of Lang or Fasolo, at VFL level far too much feeding off others for my liking, at that level they should win their own football far more and not be relying on kids like Owies, Cottrell and Polson to feed them!
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: townsendcalling on May 19, 2019, 12:48:15 pm
Any report on Kym Le Bois??
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: LP on May 19, 2019, 12:49:39 pm
Any report on Kym Le Bois??

Looked cooked after 1/2-time, needs plenty of match fitness.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: jeza on May 19, 2019, 03:08:38 pm
Lang got 28 pos. That is something to work with I guess.

He's a bit faster than a few of our mids so would be handy if he came good. Can kick a running goal from midfield too. Can't say we've kicked many of those.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: crashlander on May 19, 2019, 03:16:13 pm
Northern Blues   3.3-21   5.7-37   8.9-57   13.10-88
Frankston   2.2-14   4.6-30   6.9-45   9.9-63

NORTHERN BLUES
Goal Kickers: P. Kerr 6, A. Fasolo 2, D. Lang, N. Wheeler, K. Keppel, C. Polson, A. Phillips
Best Players: D. Lang, P. Kerr, S. Fisher, A. Fasolo, A. Schumacher, M. Stavrou

FRANKSTON
Goal Kickers: J. Kingsbury 2, J. Rendell, B. Bailey, Y. Zijai, C. Rich, G. Lok, A. Ferreira, R. Turnbull
Best Players: J. Newman, A. Ferreira, D. Gordon, J. Rendell, W. Fordham, J. Kingsbury

DISPOSALS: Lang 28, Fisher 25, Fasolo 19, Stavrou 17, Kerr 16, O'Rourke 15, Schumacher 15.

Considering how many injuries we have at the moment, especially in defence, I think we did pretty well. We still have a long way to go, especially since the Big Name Recruits (Collins at FB) hasn't even got on the park. Some of our other experienced VFL players (like Josh Hill and Jono O'Rourke) have barely fired a shot so far (although O'Rourke had his best game so far this week). That leaves a lot of improvement in this team. We have a lot of youngsters who haven't done a lot yet. Hopefully that will not remain this way.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 19, 2019, 03:34:58 pm
Northern Blues   3.3-21   5.7-37   8.9-57   13.10-88
Frankston   2.2-14   4.6-30   6.9-45   9.9-63

NORTHERN BLUES
Goal Kickers: P. Kerr 6, A. Fasolo 2, D. Lang, N. Wheeler, K. Keppel, C. Polson, A. Phillips
Best Players: D. Lang, P. Kerr, S. Fisher, A. Fasolo, A. Schumacher, M. Stavrou

FRANKSTON
Goal Kickers: J. Kingsbury 2, J. Rendell, B. Bailey, Y. Zijai, C. Rich, G. Lok, A. Ferreira, R. Turnbull
Best Players: J. Newman, A. Ferreira, D. Gordon, J. Rendell, W. Fordham, J. Kingsbury

DISPOSALS: Lang 28, Fisher 25, Fasolo 19, Stavrou 17, Kerr 16, O'Rourke 15, Schumacher 15.

Considering how many injuries we have at the moment, especially in defence, I think we did pretty well. We still have a long way to go, especially since the Big Name Recruits (Collins at FB) hasn't even got on the park. Some of our other experienced VFL players (like Josh Hill and Jono O'Rourke) have barely fired a shot so far (although O'Rourke had his best game so far this week). That leaves a lot of improvement in this team. We have a lot of youngsters who haven't done a lot yet. Hopefully that will not remain this way.

Fasalo might get a game next week, opposition was rubbish but he did a few classy things that you would expect of a 100 games senior player...Lang got plenty of ball but didnt do much with it IMO..ditto Fisher.
Kerr deserves a senior game IMO....

Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: kruddler on May 19, 2019, 03:38:52 pm
Don't know about Schumacher TBH. Not sure what he really brings to the table. Yes, he's only a kid, but every other kid we have i see with 'something', not so much with Schuey.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: shawny on May 19, 2019, 03:56:27 pm
Fasalo might get a game next week, opposition was rubbish but he did a few classy things that you would expect of a 100 games senior player...Lang got plenty of ball but didnt do much with it IMO..ditto Fisher.
Kerr deserves a senior game IMO....

I reckon we have to use the rest of this season sticking with the same 3 key forwards we have put our rebuild faith in. They need game time together for a prolonged period and this should override dropping one of them if they are a little out of form.

I believe one of the main reasons we have been slow to start getting wins on the board is the fact we have had no continuity because of injuries and then so many changes of the list year in year out.

It’s the time now to settle on who is our best 22 and Charlie, McGovern and McKay are the 3 key forwards we have modelled our rebuild around. We just have to get a good run of games into them this year and not take them in and out because a back up forward has a good game.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 19, 2019, 04:12:11 pm
I reckon we have to use the rest of this season sticking with the same 3 key forwards we have put our rebuild faith in. They need game time together for a prolonged period and this should override dropping one of them if they are a little out of form.

I believe one of the main reasons we have been slow to start getting wins on the board is the fact we have had no continuity because of injuries and then so many changes of the list year in year out.

It’s the time now to settle on who is our best 22 and Charlie, McGovern and McKay are the 3 key forwards we have modelled our rebuild around. We just have to get a good run of games into them this year and not take them in and out because a back up forward has a good game.

Kerr has something going for him IMO, he gives you a physical presence and gives us that bit of muscle we lack.....I see him as taking Casboults place.
Seen him run in the ruck and he is more than handy...McKay and Charlie dont have that physical authority and McGovern doesnt have the size.
eg I watched Robbie Tarrant bully Harry and get away with pushing him around and off the ball, Kerr likes the rough stuff and would have been able to look after himself and skillwise has it all over Levi.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: northernblue on May 19, 2019, 04:24:26 pm
Great to see Kerr kicking a bag, it’s up to the incumbents to keep him out of the senior team.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: laj on May 19, 2019, 04:36:00 pm
Kerr has something going for him IMO, he gives you a physical presence and gives us that bit of muscle we lack.....I see him as taking Casboults place.
Seen him run in the ruck and he is more than handy...McKay and Charlie dont have that physical authority and McGovern doesnt have the size.
eg I watched Robbie Tarrant bully Harry and get away with pushing him around and off the ball, Kerr likes the rough stuff and would have been able to look after himself and skillwise has it all over Levi.

Yes, Levi wouldn't want a $hit game. Kerr can play!
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: Thryleon on May 19, 2019, 05:30:18 pm
We play witches hats in the seniors who aren't ready or are playing poorly.

The second blokes like lang, fasolo and Kennedy have got some form they should come in for the kids that are not competing well enough.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: Baggers on May 19, 2019, 08:22:59 pm
Don't know about Schumacher TBH. Not sure what he really brings to the table. Yes, he's only a kid, but every other kid we have i see with 'something', not so much with Schuey.

Wow, you sure? Kid's got sure hands and reads the play well with an obvious footy IQ. Needs a few more KGs and a few more games but there are genuine positive signs.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: Baggers on May 19, 2019, 08:29:15 pm
Kerr has something going for him IMO, he gives you a physical presence and gives us that bit of muscle we lack.....I see him as taking Casboults place.
Seen him run in the ruck and he is more than handy...McKay and Charlie dont have that physical authority and McGovern doesnt have the size.
eg I watched Robbie Tarrant bully Harry and get away with pushing him around and off the ball, Kerr likes the rough stuff and would have been able to look after himself and skillwise has it all over Levi.

Agree. He's actually a footballer with a bit of attitude. We like that.

I don't know what is up with Charlie but his head aint in it at present and I'd be more than tempted to give Kerr a gig against the Aints and give Charlie a run in the Magoos to regain confidence/touch.

BB said we only play in-form blokes, well, let's see if he's speaking the truth or more forked-tongue stuff.

And FFS keep LOB in the Magoos until he beats the door down (if he's capable).
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: kruddler on May 19, 2019, 08:51:01 pm
I reckon we have to use the rest of this season sticking with the same 3 key forwards we have put our rebuild faith in. They need game time together for a prolonged period and this should override dropping one of them if they are a little out of form.

I believe one of the main reasons we have been slow to start getting wins on the board is the fact we have had no continuity because of injuries and then so many changes of the list year in year out.

It’s the time now to settle on who is our best 22 and Charlie, McGovern and McKay are the 3 key forwards we have modelled our rebuild around. We just have to get a good run of games into them this year and not take them in and out because a back up forward has a good game.

The problem with that is we have no backline (all injured, on rotation) so we've had to send McGovern down there, and Casboult, to help plug holes. That hasn't really worked down back, and has made it easier for the opposition to cover our forwards (1 less tall to worry about).

Just on those 3 tall forwards, you know how many times they have all been in the side? How many times they've been able to work together on their forward craft and work out eachother leading patterns, habits and idiosyncrasies? A total of 5 games. 1 of them was today, when Mitch spent more time back than forward. 1 of them was when Charlie got injured in the 1st quarter and sat out the rest. That leaves 3 games together. How well do you think they are going to work together off the back of 3 games?

They need time together.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: Barbs on May 19, 2019, 08:52:07 pm
And FFS keep LOB in the Magoos until he beats the door down (if he's capable).
And adds 5-10 kgs.
Dow too.
We need preseason in the middle of this season.
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: flyboy77 on May 19, 2019, 09:13:33 pm
The problem with that is we have no backline (all injured, on rotation) so we've had to send McGovern down there, and Casboult, to help plug holes. That hasn't really worked down back, and has made it easier for the opposition to cover our forwards (1 less tall to worry about).

Just on those 3 tall forwards, you know how many times they have all been in the side? How many times they've been able to work together on their forward craft and work out eachother leading patterns, habits and idiosyncrasies? A total of 5 games. 1 of them was today, when Mitch spent more time back than forward. 1 of them was when Charlie got injured in the 1st quarter and sat out the rest. That leaves 3 games together. How well do you think they are going to work together off the back of 3 games?

They need time together.

No backline has any chance when its midfield disappears entirely and the opposition mids stroll untroubled through the corridor.....
Title: Re: VFL 2019 Rd 7: Northern Blues vs. Frankston at Carlton
Post by: Jack Burton on May 19, 2019, 10:02:21 pm
Correct