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Re: NAB Challenge - Carlton v Hawthorn @ Aurora Stadium

Reply #210 –
Quote from: Brettie on
....and pop goes the bubble. Now I feel sad. :D

Not much latitude for the fact that it was the first hit out of the season....judge them after a few rounds of the regular season.

Many hadn't even played much in 2015.....
Finals, then 4 in a row!

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Reply #211 –
Quote from: DJC on
I will: 78 rotations to 135.  Of course our midfielders struggled to keep up.  It helps to know what the coach has mind when evaluating performances in practice matches  ::)

Yes, it was why Bolt's post-match presser was so useful. Even the journos pointed out that despite the massively lower rotations we still pushed into our F50 late in the game even with tired legs. A great sign considering we played to limits that will be in place for the real season, and that we are in the middle of a highly loaded segment of our pre-season program. :D

Something to be happy about, just one practice match into a new regime, and no sledging of players in the media conference either!
The Force Awakens!

Re: NAB Challenge - Carlton v Hawthorn @ Aurora Stadium

Reply #212 –
Quote from: maxm68 on

Yep to this..... who's gonna kick our goals.. ??

We dominated the 1st quarter for one goal... 4 goals for the game........  :-[
Key comment in the thread, we were well in it in the first quarter, had the ball , won the contested possies, BUT still didnt capitalise on the score board, we dont have the cattle for this. Some one smarter than I will be able to find the fact on this, but if we lined up a list of the forward line players and checked what is the highest amount of goals they have kicked in a game it will show quickly what out capabilities are.
Eg Casboult i beleive kicked 4 once , and some 3's , and he is our lead player there.
Kerrige 6 for Adelaide , hope thats a bonus for us shows he might be a multiple goal kicker for us
Who is next Murphy , thinking 4 or 5 once?
We dont have players that on their day can impact on the scoreboard to create match winning score board pressure for us. We have players that can get 25-30 possies but unless we score its doesnt have the same effect, and that will always keep us chasing.
In the last 10 yrs or so , Waite, Fev ...forward line generals , at times Hendo were go to people , we wont progress till we change the structure , dont believe we have the players on board this year to do it.

Re: NAB Challenge - Carlton v Hawthorn @ Aurora Stadium

Reply #213 –
Quote from: Lods on
We lost the game because we had no forwards.
Simple as that.

(and the rotation thingy ;))

Having a lack of forwards was the one thing that stood out to me. We are going to be putting a lot of faith in young McKay to make it plus Jacksh just has to develop into that third marking tall as well.
"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"

Re: NAB Challenge - Carlton v Hawthorn @ Aurora Stadium

Reply #214 –
Quote from: DJC on
I will: 78 rotations to 135.  Of course our midfielders struggled to keep up.  It helps to know what the coach has mind when evaluating performances in practice matches  ::)

I was well aware of that smarta$$.  My argument wasn't that Gibbs ran out of steam, it was that he never got going in the first place.  Can you wrap your head around that or would you like another passive aggressive dig?

Re: NAB Challenge - Carlton v Hawthorn @ Aurora Stadium

Reply #215 –
Quote from: Robblues on
Key comment in the thread, we were well in it in the first quarter, had the ball , won the contested possies, BUT still didnt capitalise on the score board, we dont have the cattle for this. Some one smarter than I will be able to find the fact on this, but if we lined up a list of the forward line players and checked what is the highest amount of goals they have kicked in a game it will show quickly what out capabilities are.
Eg Casboult i beleive kicked 4 once , and some 3's , and he is our lead player there.
Kerrige 6 for Adelaide , hope thats a bonus for us shows he might be a multiple goal kicker for us
Who is next Murphy , thinking 4 or 5 once?
We dont have players that on their day can impact on the scoreboard to create match winning score board pressure for us. We have players that can get 25-30 possies but unless we score its doesnt have the same effect, and that will always keep us chasing.
In the last 10 yrs or so , Waite, Fev ...forward line generals , at times Hendo were go to people , we wont progress till we change the structure , dont believe we have the players on board this year to do it.

I think Bolton's comments in the presser are relevant here too.  He spoke of Casboult as an elite talent but said that the delivery to him has to be better.  He also commented on the turnovers and breakdowns in getting the ball inside the forward 50.  Addressing those deficiencies will provide more and better opportunities for the forwards.  Playing someone other than Jones will help too.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

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Reply #216 –
Quote from: flyboy77 on
bit angry today Spornton?

Chill fella, it's Rd 1 of the pre season comp....

End of the world Flyboy.

I'm just making a noose now.
You can fool some of the people some of the time.......................................

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Reply #217 –
On Gibbs - whilst I get as annoyed as anyone with his occasional lackadaisical performances, I wonder whether there is something coaches and club see in him that we don't ?

If what is touted around here is fair and accurate, how is it possible that he has managed to stooge 3 successive regimes (4 if you count Den Den) ?

Something doesn't add up.

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Reply #218 –
Quote from: PaulP on
On Gibbs - whilst I get as annoyed as anyone with his occasional lackadaisical performances, I wonder whether there is something coaches and club see in him that we don't ?

If what is touted around here is fair and accurate, how is it possible that he has managed to stooge 3 successive regimes (4 if you count Den Den) ?

Something doesn't add up.

He was good for the first 1.5 quarters. Then backed off. I'm not sure what the issue is.

It was obviously an instruction to have a good run around.

Just some absolute tripe on here this morning.

Not you PaulP.
You can fool some of the people some of the time.......................................

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Reply #219 –
Quote from: cimm1979 on
He was good for the first 1.5 quarters. Then backed off. I'm not sure what the issue is.

It was obviously an instruction to have a good run around.

Just some absolute tripe on here this morning.

Not you PaulP.

It's sick.  I actually haven't a clue what game you were watching.  I watched every single second of that match, so for you to say Gibbs was good for a whole 1.5 quarters suggests you are either trying to get a rise or are an idiot.  Can you shed some light on which is the case?

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Reply #220 –
Quote from: SPORNTON on
I was well aware of that smarta$$.  My argument wasn't that Gibbs ran out of steam, it was that he never got going in the first place.  Can you wrap your head around that or would you like another passive aggressive dig?

You're entitled to your opinion, flawed as it may be  :)
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: NAB Challenge - Carlton v Hawthorn @ Aurora Stadium

Reply #221 –
Quote from: cimm1979 on
He was good for the first 1.5 quarters. Then backed off. I'm not sure what the issue is.

It was obviously an instruction to have a good run around.

Just some absolute tripe on here this morning.

Not you PaulP.

Thanks cimm.

I'm sure I have my lairy moments as much as the next bloke.

Re: NAB Challenge - Carlton v Hawthorn @ Aurora Stadium

Reply #222 –
Quote from: PaulP on
On Gibbs - whilst I get as annoyed as anyone with his occasional lackadaisical performances, I wonder whether there is something coaches and club see in him that we don't ?

If what is touted around here is fair and accurate, how is it possible that he has managed to stooge 3 successive regimes (4 if you count Den Den) ?

Something doesn't add up.

It's a simple answer PaulP.  Initially Gibbs was given time as a developing youngster, so Pagan was patient.  Then Ratten noted that Gibbs was often played out of position under the previous regime, so he was given more time to establish himself as a mid.  Then under Malthouse, for the first year senile Mick was FIXATED on his love affair with Bryce when previously coaching him in the International Rules Series (?????????).  Then Gibbs had his first belter of a season and was re-signed for 5 years.   As for now, well, Bolton is taking last year with a grain of salt as Gibbs was injured for much of it and we were a laughing stock.  Still, I, and a select group of enlightened others noted in Gibbs' limited performances last year he completely lacked any desire whatsoever, and we saw it again last night.

I'm uncertain how Bolton views Gibbs yet.  The fact that he lost out to Simpson on VC in his twilight suggests he isn't as highly rated as under previous regimes.  God I hope so.  The day Gibbs gets dropped for even a single match is the day I will need to change my underpants. 

Re: NAB Challenge - Carlton v Hawthorn @ Aurora Stadium

Reply #223 –
Quote from: SPORNTON on
It's sick.  I actually haven't a clue what game you were watching.  I watched every single second of that match, so for you to say Gibbs was good for a whole 1.5 quarters suggests you are either trying to get a rise or are an idiot.  Can you shed some light on which is the case?

You and the club can't both be right. Either he's a terrifically convincing con artist, or the club think he's worth keeping. They've had a few chances to offload him, and haven't taken any. 

EDIT : I saw your previous answer after I posted.
 

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Reply #224 –
Quote from: DJC on
You're entitled to your opinion, flawed as it may be  :)

There should be a universal test for who knows the slightest thing about football - if you think Bryce Gibbs is a half decent footballer, you fail.