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Certainly was improvement from a couple of young players.  Two stood out for me:

- Whiley - picked it when we got him - will be the best out of the lot we traded for in 2014.  Ball magnet and hounds it like a pig
- Graham - loves a goal and works into his positions beautifully.  Hating his kicking action for goal however, or to be more accurate, his routine.  I doubt he stumbles his way in like that during training, which suggests he needs a premeditated routine, because the one he sprayed was awful

And what were your thoughts on Kerridge Spornton?

Whiley at 188cm, 88kg a great size. looks to have bulked up considerably in the off season.

With Crippa and Kerridge (and Special K to boot) alongside, some real grunt in the inside space - and dare I say it - protection for Smurf!!

They had one option to, and that was to trade him for pick 2 a couple of years back.  EVEN if we didn't require a rebuild we were stupid to not take it.  The fact that we did require a rebuild but were too arrogant to notice it back then and make the trade is the reason why we are paying the ultimate price now and are behind clubs like Melbourne and St Kilda.

Whilst i can appreciate that in your mind, your position on Gibbs comes from a rational, sustained analysis and keen observation over a period of time, and not as the result of personal bias or agenda, something is getting lost in translation, because your views come across as the latter rather than the former. I recall a book I read on Steve Jobs, where he was described as having a binary view of the world, and divided people into two groups, "heroes who could do no wrong", and "sh1theads who could do no good".

Gibbs may not be the greatest number 1, he may be occasionally laconic, he may never reach his potential, but as our list stands presently, he is in our best 22, and deserves a game. I would argue that he would be in the best 22 in any of other 17 teams.

I still say that is simply not possible to flim flam 3 successive, and largely independent regimes.

And really, referring to others on here as stupid or pigs doesn't help your cause either.

I reckon a good starting point may come form the following 25 players. Gorringe could be something and I'm keen to see how Jaksch and Smith go also along with Weitering and Cuningham.

How will Gorringe go as a genuine CHF? Not so sure. Hoping he can. Kristian Jaskch has got to surely do more than Liam Jones.

Kerridge gives us another bona fida midfielder with size and grunt to match. he's only 22 yo so he'll come through with Cripps and co.

Thought Whiley was good, Graham too.

Actually the best I've seen Thomas look and play for some time. No doubt his movement was quicker and his pace was certainly a massive leap form the previous 3 years. Honestly think it looks promising for him, so Thomas and Kerridge give us two more solid mids.

Boekhorst off half-back/wing I reckon would be good and I think Docherty could push more wing/mid this year....I'm hoping any way along with young Dylan Buckley.

Not sure if Simpson off half-back all year will be the go. Wouldn't mind him getting dangerous off the forward flank at times. he's so smart and dangerous.

rated the effort of Lamb. he's a one-touch footballer and able to make something out of half a chance ala Andy walker so up forward they'll be required.

Thought Matt Wright was solid/ I've been a fan of his for years. Handy and very good foot skills along with adding maturity, grunt and an ability to play forward/mid.

I don't mind the effort that Andrew Philips privies. Again, another big unit who moves well and has grunt. I reckon at his size, with that leap and his grunt, you don't throw them on the scrap heap so quickly.

B: Tuohy, Jamison, Weitering
Hb: Docherty, Rowe, Simpson
C: Thomas, Cripps, Gibbs
Hf: Everitt, Kreuzer, Lamb
F: Wright, Casboult, Walker
Foll: Phillips, Kerridge
Rov: Murphy (c)
I/c: Boekhorst, Buckley, E.Curnow, Graham
Emerg: Armfield, Whiley, White

That was a sublime pass to Everitt.  The vision to spot him was impressive just by itself.  Can you imagine Bell, Robbo or Grigg doing that?  They just would have bombed it as long as they could.

That was a sublime pass to Everitt.  The vision to spot him was impressive just by itself.  Can you imagine Bell, Robbo or Grigg doing that?  They just would have bombed it as long as they could.