NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb

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Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb

Reply #195 – February 29, 2016, 12:46:22 am

Can security please escort Liam Jones out of the ground and never let him back in again,

Please!!

I'll wait till the real stuff starts before I comment further.

Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb

Reply #196 – February 29, 2016, 02:11:22 am

Quote from: crazyjoedevolamk11 on February 28, 2016, 08:03:50 pm

Of the Blues or the Hawks?

That's a good question, i would never question Weitering's professionalism, but if he ever has any doubts about Carlton's professionalism, then his loyalty may be tested !!

Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb

Reply #197 – February 29, 2016, 08:00:02 am

Quote from: flyboy77 on February 28, 2016, 09:58:56 pm

Rubbish, it's all between the ears.....

Fixing that takes time.

If that's true then one day Tutt will be up to Selwood standard through sheer hard work and fixing problems "between the ears", and Liam Jones will morph into Johnno Brown.
It's that sort of wishful thinking which does us no favours at all and only perpetuates the situation we find ourselves in.
By the looks of Weitering and young Curnow we may have finally got the draft somewhere near right, but that doesn't alter the fact that 5 of our recent first round picks are no longer at the club in Lucas, Yarran, Bootsma, Watson and Menzel.
There's a heavy price to pay for that sort of incompetence.
If we'd only got two of them right, Talia for Lucas and Isaac Smith for Watson for example, we would be far better placed, but it's been a total wipe out and our second and third rounders haven't been any better.
There are only so many players like Tuohy who you can fluke as rookies, when you screw the National Draft to the extent that we have you're left with second raters and rejects, and no amount of work "between the ears" will make good players out of them.

Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb

Reply #198 – February 29, 2016, 08:03:59 am

One issue to think about is whether Isaac Smith and Talia would've become half the players they are now had they been in our system ?

Is it bad selection, bad development, or both ?

Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb

Reply #199 – February 29, 2016, 08:06:01 am

Both.

Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb

Reply #200 – February 29, 2016, 08:13:40 am

Quote from: PaulP on February 29, 2016, 08:03:59 am

One issue to think about is whether Isaac Smith and Talia would've become half the players they are now had they been in our system ?

Is it bad selection, bad development, or both ?

It's a fair bet that they would be well ahead of Lucas and Watson.
It's easier for young blokes in good teams with a strong group of senior players, but it's impossible to develop a strong group of senior players if you consistently draft spuds.
Catch 22.

Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb

Reply #201 – February 29, 2016, 08:45:02 am

I cant believe the majority of posts after yesterdays game.

It's a practice game after all, a game to prepare for the real thing. Our best 6 players on the list were not there, and replaced with 6 players who had never played a single game!

Did we think losing Hendo, Yarran, Carrazzo, Judd and even Menzel would leave us light on depth wise. I certainly did. We have stuff all depth so us losing our top end players hurts us way more then any other team at the moment.

The majority of supporters was in favour of going hard at the draft and trading away players that didn't want to be there. This current rebuild is the way to go for sustained success but those expecting instant improvement are delusional.

Would you have preferred we traded for players on their last legs like the cheats had to do. Give me a break. Those comparing the lists need to look beyond a practice game!

Where will each list be in 2-3 years time?

Cant have it both ways fellas, a bit of perspective would be nice.

Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb

Reply #202 – February 29, 2016, 09:03:26 am

Quote from: blue4life on February 28, 2016, 08:43:42 pm

Poor footballers turn the ball over, poor cricketers get out cheap, poor tennis players make unforced errors.
You can't polish a turd, we just have too many sub-standard players, the wooden spoon was no accident.

You absolute fool. We played our C-graders in a NAB Cup game and lost and you are using it to spruik your 'we are forked' obsession. Please, at least wait until the real stuff begins before you continue to pass judgement.

Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb

Reply #203 – February 29, 2016, 09:06:02 am

Quote from: jeza on February 28, 2016, 08:53:05 pm

I didn't know footy could be played as bad as we played it in the first half today. Second half microscopically better.

Positives? Weitering looked good. Silvagni, Curnow and McKay were good in flashes. Cunningham may want to forget that one.

I watched us warm up and literally 1 out of 4 kicks went where it was supposed to. I watched a suburban team in preseason on Friday night on the next oval from Milo Cricket and their skill level was far in advance of our guys.

You absolutely would not believe our guys were paid to practice every day.

I wish I could blame Jones but he only had one pos that didn't find the target all game. It also happened to be his only possession for the game.

Tutt is another bust.

I'm also writing off Whiley.

Clem had bit of a go but still doesn't look at all likely to make it. Not fast enough sure - but he's not good enough either.

Boek's disposal was appalling today but at least he got involved.

Jamo, Simo and Rowe were just crap today.

Obviously 90% of our team weren't playing but I think this was a misstep by Bolton. This performance would have hurt a lot of the younger guys confidence.

Byrne didn't set the world of fire but showed flashes.

I loath Everitt. LOATH everything about him.

Everitt, Tutt, Rowe, White will continue to hold us back, we must simply cut these guys free. Tutt can have all the time and space in the world and he will still fork up the kick, not a footballer's asshole (another one Juddy got horribly wrong, the list is piling up). Everitt built like Tarzan, plays like Jane. Rowe a bumbling idiot, White the epitome of spudness.

Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb

Reply #204 – February 29, 2016, 09:23:51 am

Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on February 29, 2016, 09:03:26 am

You absolute fool. We played our C-graders in a NAB Cup game and lost and you are using it to spruik your 'we are forked' obsession. Please, at least wait until the real stuff begins before you continue to pass judgement.

Visit your local GP and get a reality check.
I'd love to live in your world but sadly I live in the real one, how are things on Zardoz?

Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb

Reply #205 – February 29, 2016, 09:26:50 am

Quote from: bignic on February 29, 2016, 12:46:22 am

Can security please escort Liam Jones out of the ground and never let him back in again,

Please!!

I'll wait till the real stuff starts before I comment further.

X2 Please

Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb

Reply #206 – February 29, 2016, 09:35:18 am

One good thing out of this game is that the possibility of our return of AFL games to ikon is one step closer. Still improbable but the strength of the crowd yesterday made the club sit up and take notice

Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb

Reply #207 – February 29, 2016, 09:47:25 am

Quote from: Jeffy38 on February 29, 2016, 09:35:18 am

One good thing out of this game is that the possibility of our return of AFL games to ikon is one step closer. Still improbable but the strength of the crowd yesterday made the club sit up and take notice

As others have stated though the facilities there would need a massive improvement/renovation. It was a nostalgic journey to go back again for sure and the playing surface looks great - BUT! The rest of the spectator facilities look very run down, verging on the derelict, and that made me somewhat sad. Almost like being in a ghost town visited by tourists.

Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb

Reply #208 – February 29, 2016, 09:52:22 am

Where's DJC with my morning inside info?

Woke up expecting a full report

Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb

Reply #209 – February 29, 2016, 09:55:52 am

I left the post game function just before 6 and walked through Princes Park towards the city. On the next oval I saw Matt Korcheck and two other players doing wind sprints under the direction of one of the fitness staff. They were fitted with GPS harnesses and appeared to have been working hard for quite a while.

It reinforced the impression I have that Bolton has a program in place and it's being followed precisely.