Carlton Supporters Club

We'll probably finish bottom two, rusted on supporters like people on this board will keep buttering up but some others will drop off, and we won't be attracting very many new supporters or members that's for sure and certain.
The danger is that a long and painful rebuild will badly affect our long term viability with no guarantee of success, the one bright spot is that if we beat Collingwood in a fortnight they'll self destruct.

The Collingwood game will probably be the first I attend this year, if we beat them there will probably be a public lynching of Buckley. Funny thing is I actually respect Bucks but you live and die by your performances, and he himself placed the noose over his head if they don't make finals. Great game this AFL!!

How true - it's too early to say whether the list is better. It's easy to say at this stage that last years and this years draftees will mean we have a better list in another 2 years time, but we just don't know.

When you look at the list the problem is that the 12/13/14 drafting and trading is a train wreck, and we therefore have very few guys with 40-60 games experience who a solid AFL footballers. Doc and Crippa are it really. We have a massive hole in the middle of the list, and you can't lose experience like Tuohy, Jamo, Walks and Hendo and replace them with kids and hope to get the same results in the short term. You are likely to go backwards.

In a perfect world 4-5 of Boek, Whiley, Tutt, Jones, KJ, Gorringe, DVR, Menzel, Temay, Graham, Giles, Holman, Everitt, Smith, Dick, Foster would have developed into solid players who contributed strongly week to week - even that would be a 33% strike rate. Instead we got almost nothing out of that cohort, so we now have to keep playing White, Casboult, Armfield and Daisy because we have nothing better. And we have to keep blooding a high proportion of players with under 25 games experience and pray we find some diamonds in that group.

I have no idea whether he's good or crap at coaching (I've always liked him), but he can be too honest by half.

Thing is, if Bucks fails, then Eddie should be right in the spotlight with him as this was the succession plan he orchestrated.

Appointing a club stalwart as coach almost always ends in tears, in recent times it has for Voss, Ratten and Hird and it no doubt will for Buckley, you can count on one hand the times that it's worked over the last 30 years.
When the time comes it's always postponed too long and then when the trigger is pulled it's like shooting Bambi, and divides supporters and members.
It's just not a good idea.

That's because roos had had enough of being the senior coach and wanted to hand over the reigns.

You force a succession plan on anyone and they won't like it.

It's effectively training your replacement to do your job most likely before you believe your time is up.

At Collingwood it made no sense to pull that reign at that time.  First flag won, finals series looming, minor premiership in reach and a fairly good chance at the flag again.   They should have postponed it a couple of years.

All coaches are employees of a football club. It's not up to them to decide when it's time to go. MM's best was behind him. The Pies could see it, and so could all the other clubs that were looking for a senior coach in that time, except of course for the lazy, soft option, quick fix kings.

Supporters will tolerate any amount of failure if they support the regime - compare the 2012 and 2013 W/L and %. Same W/L in both seasons, but 2012 has a better %. Yet 2012 was such a disaster that the coach had to go, bu 2013 gets a pass mark. What a load of farking crap.

Probably because the selection process is biased and the candidate selected has spent too long in one environment and is too close to the playing group.

Looking at how Collingwood dismantled a premiership outfit including many young players shows that it's a terrible idea.

They have geared their list at being good within the next couple of years to save Buckley his job rather than challenge for a flag.
Insanity given what the Giants look like.

You say that to anyone in any job and they will tell you to stick it, and walk out leaving you with all their intellectual property.

Football clubs are a bit different but it's still not a good idea, in any profession.

Had he not come to our football club, this point would not be lost on you.  But you're too busy being anti mick Malthouse to appreciate what I'm actually saying here.