Carlton Supporters Club

The rubbish about the respect he "deserves"... He deserves the respect one human gives another, but outside of that Carlton supporters owe him absolutely NOTHING. He has absolutely impacted our ability to bring in other players due to the size of his contract.

I am saying, that money talks... In this time of professional football it is a fact.
Paying Daisy his salary mad him 1 of the top 2-3 highest paid players at the club.

That certainly impacted our salary cap, it is ridiculous to image it doesn't. It is fairly simple mathematics.

Of course we will need other elements to get a player in, but Betts wanted less than Thomas was offered..

If Thomas was on 250k a year throughout his years at the club, that would have freed up what about 450-500k a year? The impact to our list would be taking a spot on the list and nothing else.

So having a player on 250k not performing doesn't impact the list, but you can only afford to pay x number of players  an A grade salary, which is what he has been paid and yes that impacts our ability to bring another one in.

Do you have any links to that? Because I find that to be extraordinary. He came here after a pay packet and can't imagine why he would have a trigger that said if he is playing football good enough for 15 games in his last year we get him for 1/2 the next year.

No, the simple truth (again) is that Daisy fails, consistently, to impact a senior AFL match.

Care to name a game or two when he was in our best 2 or 3. ok then, try best 6 in the last season or four?

What he once was as a player and what he is today are world's apart. Arguably, a few galaxies.

Why you cannot grasp that little fact is quite beyond me. 

You know he is number 39 LP don't you...

Do you have any links to that? Because I find that to be extraordinary. He came here after a pay packet and can't imagine why he would have a trigger that said if he is playing football good enough for 15 games in his last year we get him for 1/2 the next year.

While Thomas has a trigger — believed to be 15 games — that would guarantee him a substantial contract, about half of this year’s $700,000-plus, his management has spoken to the Blues about a possible deal that can avert a weekly discussion about his place in the side.

It's been widely discussed in the football media months ago, before the season even started.

The Daisy haters started kicking him before the JLT series even got underway, and then when he failed to dominate in the JLT they went up a level! There is so much rhetoric about him, I suspect if he won a Brownlow they'd claim it was rigged!

But lets face it, we still have lots of posters bagging Murphy despite his stellar start to the season, so I suppose bagging players has become the new black!

On the radio at the weekend Harf made a good point, he couldn't understand Carlton fans bagging Murphy for two clangers out of 30+ disposals. He posed the question, why are they bagging Murphy when Docherty and Simpson are playing at lower efficiency? It's a tell!

Booing Daisy is every bit as undesirable as the booing Ablett Jnr received at the weekend. These blokes aren't knobs who gobbed off and dribbled crap like Goodes, or snippers like Ziebell. They are just hard working footballers who generally go about their business quietly and without fanfare.

From Jake Niall, Fox Sports, 27 March 2017:

Perhaps Daisy isn't as mercenary as folk think.  Still, $350,000 odd isn't a bad pay packet for a bloke who is likely to be a depth player.

From Jake Niall, Fox Sports, 27 March 2017:

Perhaps Daisy isn't as mercenary as folk think.  Still, $350,000 odd isn't a bad pay packet for a bloke who is likely to be a depth player.

What you fail to grasp is that his form, his value to the team and his club (Which by the way is Carlton not Collingwood), are not related to either his wage or his past abilities.

All that counts is his most recent effort and his next effort! If he starts taking short steps, isn't working hard or starts potting team-mates then he's done, but he isn't.

Whether he is earning $1M or $370K, when he plays to his current ability he is still clearly in our best 22.

Despite the loss of leg speed and kicking, Daisy's probably the equal of Gibbs at stoppages, which makes him a better stoppage option than Kerridge, E.Curnow, Boekhorst, Armfield, Buckley or Graham.

He runs every bit as hard as anyone in the team, Simpson, Murphy and Kreuzer included.

He shepherds frequently only possibly bettered by Kreuzer.

He chases harder than some if not most of the team, despite many of them being clearly faster across the ground he often passes them in the chase! That irony is not lost on many of us, especially when single minded supporters bag Daisy for being too slow and ignore the faster kid he overtakes in the chase!

Daisy knows where to be and when to be there, he is every bit as valuable to Carlton now as Brock McLean was when he was also bagged by supporters as being done and dusted before he even played a senior game.

What part of the crowd are you sitting in?

I've never heard the crowd boo either daisy or certainly not Murphy. I point out our captain won't tackle and actively runs away from defensive situations which makes it very hard to defend him.

Daisy gets very few possessions and scrubs quite a few simple kicks which is why he got dropped to the VFL. There is no conspiracy. He's not played as well as his younger and less experienced teammates.

He cops criticism because he's paid 7 times more than the guy who is out perfoming him which seems fair enough. I don't see him putting his hand up to take a pay cut to fit more/better players into our salary cap which is what hawks and cats players did for years.

Defend him if you like but be realistic about others right to criticise the bloke.