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There seems significant more attention to detail with other teams working out our players than we put into other teams IMO.......

Yes I agree, we do seem to be lacking in the opposition analysis department. But I think part of the problem is our medium sized players are generally too slow. Last season guys like E. Curnow, Kerridge, Lamb, Thomas, Plowman, White, Smedts, Graham, Gibbs, etc., just couldn't keep up with the oppositions breakaway players.

Add to that, we let defenders run off guys like Wright, Thomas and Silvagni while bombing the ball predictably to either Casboult or Kreuzer instead of looking for the loose players. We can have all the talls we like, but if we fail to make use of those in the open we won't win many games.

I think the problem with the Crows in the GF was that they thought they were not favourites - and consequently didn't turn up.

But yes, kudos to Richmond - they get a lot out of a rather motley crew.

Yes I agree, we do seem to be lacking in the opposition analysis department. But I think part of the problem is our medium sized players are generally too slow. Last season guys like E. Curnow, Kerridge, Lamb, Thomas, Plowman, White, Smedts, Graham, Gibbs, etc., just couldn't keep up with the oppositions breakaway players.

Add to that, we let defenders run off guys like Wright, Thomas and Silvagni while bombing the ball predictably to either Casboult or Kreuzer instead of looking for the loose players. We can have all the talls we like, but if we fail to make use of those in the open we won't win many games.

Hopefully the new guys like Pickett and Garlett will help in this regard. But we are generally a slow team. You need exceptional talent like a Sam Mitchell type to offset a lack of speed. And the game seems to be getting faster.

Better and faster ball use will help in this regard too!

I thought two clubs intimidated Nthmond last season, Adelaide and St Kilda, on both occasions it was the opposition smalls who ran riot against them. Rance was poor in both games, partly because both opposition sides had more than 10 goal kickers and Rance cannot cover them all. Which is one of the reasons I think expecting two or three talls to kick bags against Nthmond is a losing strategy. The two times opponents really got hold of them medium / smalls kicked bags.

Nthmond reversed the trend when it mattered.

Yes, no doubt. But I bet other teams watched those games, and tried to repeat the dose, and failed. Even the Crows themselves couldn't repeat it. The sign of a good team when you can right the ship the way the Tigers did.

But you can dead-set bet they have analysed the life out of those games over the pre-season.

Very few clubs have lists that can learn on the run, this might be Dimma's luckiest coincidence, that he's got a bunch of self-coaching fast learners and pretty much no discernible structure that can opponents cane identify.

I understand the pessimism given the last decade and more of misery but the tide has turned and will keep turning.

I think we match up very well with the Tigers.

I know there's a lot more to it than height and weight but:

Levi - 201cm, 103kg.

Big H - 204cm, 100kg+

Rance - 194cm, 94kg.

Astbury - 195cm, 95kg (Crippa size)

That;s a big height weight difference.....

and Charlie

195cm, 92kg.

Maybe. But apart from Prestia, Caddy and Nankervis (and getting rid of Vickery), wasn't the list fairly constant before that ? Maybe they're the type that put things together much later in the process, because prior to 2017, they showed very little IMO.