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AFL Rd 3 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

At 1310 at the MCG on April 3rd. Happens to be my daughter's birthday< but I'll see what she intends doing before saying yay or nay.
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Two wins. Can we make it three? Cerra and Martin will be back, as will Voss and the other coaches. Fog to go out: he wasn't bad, but he was thrashed overhead.
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I think we need to look more carefully at the make up of the opposition and whether we need to field 2 ruckman. We did against Melb because of Gawn and Jackson, likewise Richmond with their 2 big guys, but the Doggies in reality only had English. Pitt and JSOS could have got the job done and as it turned out De Koning had very little influence on the game.

Hawks??......Reeves and BiG Boy who now treies to hold down a key position.

Do we need both Pitt AND De Koning??

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Quote from: townsendcalling on
I think we need to look more carefully at the make up of the opposition and whether we need to field 2 ruckman. We did against Melb because of Gawn and Jackson, likewise Richmond with their 2 big guys, but the Doggies in reality only had English. Pitt and JSOS could have got the job done and as it turned out De Koning had very little influence on the game.

Hawks??......Reeves and BiG Boy who now treies to hold down a key position.

Do we need both Pitt AND De Koning??

At half time, the boys were raving about how our 2 rucks were dominating the game. How they compliment eachother and how they offer an additional tall target up forward.
Having Pittonet in the ruck allows us to use Harry as a 'get out' option out of half back, who can find Charlie for a long down the line, and kick long to the marking target of TDK up forward. Doesn't matter how far up the ground they go, there is always a marking target to kick too.

Both play.

They offer cover for Charlie/Harry as well.

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Interesting selection this week with Cerra a certainty to return and J Martin also likely - assume that Fogarty and one of Setterfield/Owies or Fisher make way?

Dow is bashing down the door in the 2s and I’d much prefer him in the side rather than either of Setterfield or O’Brien, but acknowledge that it would be a very tough call to drop OBrien after a decent outing against the Dogs.

Barring more C19 interruptions, most likely to be one change Cerra in and Fogarty out and Dow will need to wait - just don’t want him to become Heath Scotland at Collingwood because that almost certainly ends with him leaving for no return on our investment.

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Hawks won't be the easybeats we imagined. They're embarrassing Port Adelaide on their own dungheap.

Talking about ruckmen, Ned Reeves stands at 211 cm and 104 kg. He's young, 23, but the height advantage gives him a head start. McEvoy is now trying to play forward while Reeves takes the ruck. 

Their midfield includes O'Meara, Mitchell & Worpel. They have a 197 cm tall midfielder from Ireland, Connor Nash, who has the speed and agility you'd expect from a Gaelic footballer. And they've added a high draft pick, Josh Ward, to their midfield.

Up forward, they have Gunston, Breust, Mitch Lewis & Chad Wingard. Down back, they have Sicily and CJ. CJ is ridiculously athletic and has dominated so far this season after an injury last year.

Just when we thought we could take it easy after the Tigers & Dogs ...

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Hawks won't be the easybeats we imagined. They're embarrassing Port Adelaide on their own dungheap.

Talking about ruckmen, Ned Reeves stands at 211 cm and 104 kg. He's young, 23, but the height advantage gives him a head start. McEvoy is now trying to play forward while Reeves takes the ruck. 

Their midfield includes O'Meara, Mitchell & Worpel. They have a 197 cm tall midfielder from Ireland, Connor Nash, who has the speed and agility you'd expect from a Gaelic footballer. And they've added a high draft pick, Josh Ward, to their midfield.

Up forward, they have Gunston, Breust, Mitch Lewis & Chad Wingard. Down back, they have Sicily and CJ. CJ is ridiculously athletic and has dominated so far this season after an injury last year.

Just when we thought we could take it easy after the Tigers & Dogs ...

They look very good - good talks forward abs back and mids that go hard. We’ll have to be at our absolute best.

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Maybe Port are lacking something from the coaches box🤔
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Hawks won't be the easybeats we imagined. They're embarrassing Port Adelaide on their own dungheap.

Talking about ruckmen, Ned Reeves stands at 211 cm and 104 kg. He's young, 23, but the height advantage gives him a head start. McEvoy is now trying to play forward while Reeves takes the ruck. 

Their midfield includes O'Meara, Mitchell & Worpel. They have a 197 cm tall midfielder from Ireland, Connor Nash, who has the speed and agility you'd expect from a Gaelic footballer. And they've added a high draft pick, Josh Ward, to their midfield.

Up forward, they have Gunston, Breust, Mitch Lewis & Chad Wingard. Down back, they have Sicily and CJ. CJ is ridiculously athletic and has dominated so far this season after an injury last year.

Just when we thought we could take it easy after the Tigers & Dogs ...


Agree, Mitchell has them playing aggressive football and they do attack the ball well.Reeves and McEvoy are a decent ruck setup, think they will struggle with Charlie , Harry and TDK though and our big mids might wear them down..

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Aliir Aliir, Fantasia, & Dixon were out injured, so that's part of the explanation. But Port shouldn't have been so crap ...

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The 3rd game of the season could be a high scoring shoot out style of footy. Both teams with eager and hungry new coaches. Both with enthusiastic hungry for a win players. Both love to play with a high number of handballs to keep possession and keep moving the ball forward at any cost. Will probably be a mental game where the more desperate side will win. Should probably be the game of the round. I say that being serious. Ignore past performances. This game on the big stage will be a test of will, and a test of who chokes first. I hope we win by 3 goals, but won’t be too disappointed if we fall short by a couple of goals. Two sides on the rise that should make the top 8 if injuries don’t kill their season. Both play a very exciting brand of football.
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Quote from: Mav on
Hawks won't be the easybeats we imagined. They're embarrassing Port Adelaide on their own dungheap.

Talking about ruckmen, Ned Reeves stands at 211 cm and 104 kg. He's young, 23, but the height advantage gives him a head start. McEvoy is now trying to play forward while Reeves takes the ruck. 

Their midfield includes O'Meara, Mitchell & Worpel. They have a 197 cm tall midfielder from Ireland, Connor Nash, who has the speed and agility you'd expect from a Gaelic footballer. And they've added a high draft pick, Josh Ward, to their midfield.

Up forward, they have Gunston, Breust, Mitch Lewis & Chad Wingard. Down back, they have Sicily and CJ. CJ is ridiculously athletic and has dominated so far this season after an injury last year.

Just when we thought we could take it easy after the Tigers & Dogs ...



Well said.

Any thoughts that the Dawks would be easy beats has vanished. As I was watching the game I was fully expecting Port to wake up and run over their opposition... but the longer the game went the more authoritative the Dawks became, an emphatic and impressive win. And it was a 4 qtr effort.

Yep, we'll have to be at our best.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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With Martin and Cerra set to return and Dow/Kemp/Motlop/Cottrell & Newnes putting in strong efforts in the Magoos... who goes out?

For mine, it's Fogarty and Setterfield. There's much to like about Setters' efforts but his fumbles/dropped easy marks are costly - his hands just aren't clean enough at present. After that it's hard to see who could make way for Dow and Co.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Cerra must come back if right.
Martin probably should, but is not a monty IMO.

OMac will determine who else goes out.

Plowman last in, first out....but if no Omac, we might need him to play taller. Potentially bringing in Kemp or Young for coverage also.

Assuming OMac is fully fit,
I'd have Cerra in and Fogarty out and have Martin as the sub.