Carlton Supporters Club

Cerra was a very questionable selection Lods, short of a gallop, horribly out of form all season and single position player.  Not an intelligent selection.

My only issue with bringing on Vossy as coach was i was afraid he would do the same thing he did at Brisbane.
That is, try for a quick fix, bring in players who perhaps he shouldn't (Fev!) and set the club back as a result.

Not quite the same standard, but bringing in Fantasia was a bit of a worry and a warning sign of perhaps the same thing. But in fairness, every coach seems to get 'one'.

However, since then he and his MC have got me stuffed with their selections. Yes, the continued inclusion of Fantasia is one that sticks out, but its not limited to that.
There are plenty of players that seem to just 'play' regardless of fitness and form. Cerra stands out as an example.
There are players who will be picked to play regardless of how injured and ineffective they are. Charlie playe about 5 games more than he should.....and we got ZERO return from that.

We were a game and a half clear in 2nd position with a huge injury list (and growing) and an easier draw towards the end of the season. Instead of resting players, he ran them into the ground and compounded the problem.

Our last 10 games, we won just 3. Those 3 were the teams that finished in the bottom 3 this year.
IMO, that was mainly due to picking the wrong players at the wrong time.

Does anyone think that Voss is part of the problem?

What else did Nobody predict. He's a smart guy

Not if we start with the pissweak intensity we started with last night.

No greater risk than taking out of form players into any game.

.....Fact is, our system just does not develop players the way it should, so our young ones coming in are not prepared for senior footy.  Hence, we keep picking the same old names (even if they are carrying injuries) and wonder why yet another season has gone down the gurgler. 

We need a match committee that is prepared to try something different, and a reserves structure that gets the young ones ready. 

I watch the Hawthorn youngsters running around and their success stems from the fact that they were backed in by their coaching staff even when they were 0-5 at the start of the year, and they are now rolling on youthful enthusiasm.  We give our young ones 1 or 2 games, then drop them. 

Moir, Lord certainly deserved to be playing last night, and Cincotta being dropped was abysmal .  I can think of 6 or 7 players who got a game last night who let the jumper down in a huge way.

When you lose an elimination final by the 10-minute mark of the second quarter, big changes are needed.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2024-carlton-blues-player-ratings-vs-brisbane-lions-from-first-elimination-final-patrick-cripps-sam-docherty-highlights-stats-best-and-worst-players/news-story/466ffeed2df7cb0d0b307fcfb86edf3f

Worst players...
Williams - 2
Durdin - 2
Motlop - 3
O. Hollands - 3
Kennedy - 3
Fantasia - 4
Cowan - 4
Cerra - 4
Kemp - 4
Saad - 4

4 small forwards and cerra was who I had an issue with pre-game.

5 of our worst 10 players were from that group including the worst 2.

I also had an issue with tdk starting as sub and said he shouldve started.
Tdk - 6
Pittonet - 6
Walsh - 6
Newman - 6
Weitering - 6
Acres - 7
Cripps - 8
Hewett - 8

'Post game experts' they say.


The loss is hard enough to take.
But when you can highlight the issues before the game (and I'm not alone in this) it makes it all that harder to take.