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Notice Board (Visitors Enter Here) / Re: Future of the footy forum
Yeah there is that option too which would make it more user friendly and if other users didn't want to use the mobile site I think it would be easy enough to switch betweennthe two.

I was on this site a long time ago probably about 8 - 10 years ago and I may even have been banned for those playing at home I can't remember but back then apps weren't a thing nor was accessing forums on your phone so when I signed back up to CSC which I did because I liked that there wasn't as much traffic as other forums (although it defiantly has died down since then which is disappointing) I didn't think it would be a desktop only site.

I dont think the site is not usable because it is it is more that it's just a hindrance and not very user friendly and i know personally I will probably lose interest after a while.

Fair enough. Do you ever access the site from a computer ?

It would take a lot more than the lack of a mobile app for me to lose interest in the site, but that's just me.
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Notice Board (Visitors Enter Here) / Re: Future of the footy forum
I’m not familiar with the app that has been suggested, however it’s not an either/or situation.
For the people who don’t understand what is being suggested it’s like using your banks full www site to do your internet banking as opposed to using their app. The app is much simpler, bigger buttons, simpler layout and no need to keep expanding the screen, that’s if of course, you do internet banking... ????????????

Yes, I get all that, and I do have internet banking, but only on my desktop. I have no need for the bank apps on my phone. My wife has them, and no doubt they're handy, but she hardly ever uses them. I'm sure she could delete them and not miss them at all.
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Notice Board (Visitors Enter Here) / Re: Future of the footy forum
It shouldnt be the case of one or the other as far as i know the browser site should stay the same and the app would be an additional optional thing.

I dare say you would know more about this than me. I use Chrome on an HTC phone, and I know some sites are set up so you can choose (on the phone) whether you want to view it as "mobile friendly" or "desktop friendly". CSC does not offer that choice as far as I can tell, so the site is permanently in desktop mode. You do have to zoom in and out and scroll around a little, but it's still pretty usable IMO.
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Notice Board (Visitors Enter Here) / Re: Future of the footy forum
I'm pretty new to using apps on small devices, and I can see the appeal. I dare say that this is one of those issues that will divide the younger and older members of the site, and when and if the demographic moves closer to the former, demands and expectations for such an app will increase.
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Notice Board (Visitors Enter Here) / Re: Future of the footy forum
Banning is an extreme.
It usually takes place after a number of indiscretions
I do understand folks won't always agree with a ban or suspension but it's also important to understand that unless you're watching here 24/7 you wont always get the full picture of why a ban has been imposed.

We've lost some really good contributors and some of them have been quite sad.... but often it's because they've got a "bee in their bonnet" about a coach or player and just refused to let it go infiltrating threads across the forums despite constant warnings. There comes a point where a line must be drawn and the consequences applied.

You wont normally be banned for a critical opinion...it's how you express it that will get you in  strife.

Calling a Carlton player a dog is unacceptable.

Going into a voting thread and making a silly response is disruptive and unhelpful.

Derogatory comments about a player after he suffers a season ending injury, like we're lucky it happened...wont earn you points.


Posts like that will always draw an understandable negative personal response and disrupt the forum. Those type of posts will earn you a holiday.
Be critical by all means, but if you are... keep it on topic and attack the players skills, attitude etc... but don't disparage them on a personal level.

There's 2 things about this forum of which I am quite certain :
1. The mods are even and fair in their treatment of posters : they don't target, victimize, or single out anyone arbitrarily
2. despite the belief of some folks, there is not and never has been a requirement (tacit or otherwise) that posts on here must toe the party line. As lods says, feel free to agree or disagree with any topic, just be sensible how you do it. Expression is the key.
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The Sports Desk / Re: Umpire Critisism - Yes or No?
You need to get back in the gutter with the rest of us Paul...we need more AFLX sucks posts and less of
the Ernest Hemingway wartime romantic offerings..... ;) :)..this a fair dinkum football site, cant have posters trying to be
philosophical smartar$es... ;D

Yes, and here's me thinking that being an irritating, insufferable, pompous twerp is just what the forum needed.

Silly Paully.
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Notice Board (Visitors Enter Here) / Re: Future of the footy forum
Unbelievable.  This is exactly what I am talking about.  There is nothing wrong with posting an opinion which does not paint a positive picture of something that is going on at the club if it needs to be said.  Plus, the point of a forum is to give your 'opinion' on matters relating to football and the CFC.  This does not mean my opinion will be right or wrong... it is an opinion.  But it would be a boring world if everyone saw things the same way, and through rose colored glasses.  My comment on the women's footy a few weeks ago I absolutely stand by.  I think it is atrocious.    Yes I've been banned a number of times, but I am a passionate supporter and maybe in the past I've overstepped the mark, but not recently.   I do not personally attack other posters for example... like you have here PaulP.  So we were asked to comment on how the site is progressing and I did so, pointing out that banning/ridiculing posters for not being positive or agreeing with the party-line all the time will lead to them not posting/leaving the forum.  I think this is a fair comment.  Did I need the abuse that you have just put on me for mentioning this?  Maybe sometimes it is better to look within, before criticizing others PaulP.

Spare me the melodrama.

Folks post positive and negative opinions on matters here hourly daily, and don't get binned or banned, and yet you do. And you can't figure out why ? Have the mods told you nothing ? They just ban you and say nothing ?

I started a thread yesterday, which unbeknownst to me, was considered unsuitable for the site. I received a concise, polite PM from one of the mods explaining why it wasn't suitable, and that was that. Should I grieve because I'm not allowed to "express my opinion"?
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Notice Board (Visitors Enter Here) / Re: Future of the footy forum
I think banning people for putting across a different opinion to those in power is one thing.   As long as posts are not 'personal' in nature, a poster should be able to voice his/her opinion, even if it is not the more preferred or supported one.  This leads to people not bothering to join/post on the site.

Don't play the innocent.

When you post negative, dismissive comments on a topic in which you have no interest, as you did in the women's footy forum a few weeks ago, it's trolling, pure and simple. You've already been sin binned twice, 3 times ? You've been on the forum for a while, so it's not as if you're a newbie. I'm wondering when the penny is going to drop.

The "different opinion" argument is nonsense.
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The Sports Desk / Re: Umpire Critisism - Yes or No?
Play the ball, not the man, and don't make it personal. Don't say "the umpire got it wrong", say, "we feel the incorrect decision was made".

It's not just semantics. Words are powerful things. Words have started wars, ended wars, helped people fall in love, out of love etc.

Use them wisely.
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Ladies Lounge / Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Brisbane at Ikon
There are about 10 'elite athletes' in the whole competition (most successful in other sports). The others are nothing more than weekend warriors. The AFL have a lot to answer for in a couple of areas. Their hype over Mo Hope because she had a 'story' but failed to fire a shot was over the top, totally!  Making Sarah Perkins a pinup girl (again nice story, but no athlete) was just unfair. The high percentage of the girls have been promoted and pumped up way, way beyond their ability.  The exposure (print, electronic media) is WAY out of proportion to the standard of the game and ability of most of the players......but it suits the AFL perfectly!

I actually feel sorry for the girls, they should be able to develop in the 'burbs, like the next generation of players are doing now.

It's a start up competition, with part time players, most of whom have played the game for all of 5 minutes. If they stick them in the burbs, I think the girls will be stuck there forever.

Everyone has a right to an opinion, but they need to be given a chance first. The improvement will come.