Carlton Supporters Club

Abit mischievous by Beveridge IMO.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/666643/unless-ross-knows-something-then-i-plan-to-coach-next-year-teague

Well worth a read, but it's a little depressing tbh.

I can only give an opinion on an opinion based forum. Doing a review mid season for a bloke who has coached 40 games, with a Wl/L around 40-45%, is IMO, absurd. I would also say that there is a time and a way of doing it without making it seem like a head hunting exercise. Our club has form for this type of behaviour - think back to R2 2015 when completely out of the blue they announced a ground zero rebuild. Both that announcement and this current one cause trouble, instability and uncertainty. Think back to the Geelong, Collingwood and Richmond reviews, and then compare them to ours. Night and day IMO.

We all want the club to get better - the club has issues, as all clubs do, But we seem to pick the most unhelpful, destructive way of fixing those issues IMO. Which experts at the club thought we were playing finals this season ? I never thought that, and if Teague is being judged against unachievable goals, then maybe those that pluck random expectations out of their clacker are the ones who should be reviewed, and not the coach.

The review was called after Teague had coached about 40 games. 40 games !! How is that even possible ? With covid and all the rest. I'm not sure if they think Teague is making them look bad because the results don't fit with their unrealistic, feel good messaging in pre season, or what's going on. But that's appalling. His W/L hovers around 40%-45%. It's not that bad, and not the sort of results that warrant a review IMO.

So as I see it, the Board is either incompetent or malevolent or both (as I've said before). It's hard to believe Sayers couldn't see this coming. He wants to show the fans that he's taking action, but it just seems like the same old panicked, knee jerk, rash decision making from the masters in the field.

BG on SEN this morning

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/08/09/the-story-behind-patty-mills-historic-bronze-medal-performance/

Well worth the 22 mins or so listening to him speak.

Yes, Patty spoke very well - almost as well as he played! 

Brian Goorjian must take a lot of credit for the Boomers finally cracking it for a medal.. He is a great coach who understands the game and team culture/dynamics.  His teams always have a crack.

It was interesting to hear how the present team embraced past Boomers and were embraced by them in return.  I listened to Lindsay Gaze and Shane Heal on the wireless and they couldn't have been any prouder.

Anderson has probably been lurking here and has repeated some of the common themes 

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/leaked-high-level-carlton-email-supposedly-reveals-the-future-of-the-club/news-story/a8a86c34cb8c67cf7a01cbf2fedfca3f

An alleged email from deep inside the Carlton hierarchy has found its way to Sheahan ink.

The email which may be true or may be just be a work of fiction offers intriguing suggestions of what the future might look like for the Blue Baggers.

The leaked email, supposedly from a club board member, outlines the club’s mistakes, plans for the future, who is to be sacked, who will or won’t be hired and players’ futures.

We haven’t been able to check the veracity of the claims but the specific details suggest it came from a highly placed insider with intimate knowledge of boardroom politics, executive level decision making, finances and list management.

The ‘person’ suggests the board is divided into two camps: the billionaires, led by Pratt and Mathieson, and the non-billionaires.

The top-level secretive document highlights David Teague’s tenure as senior coach and whether he should be given next season to continue in the job.
Some of what the email reportedly contains includes:

> Does the club ‘give Teague 2022 with new assistants on the basis we are not top six by mid-season, Clarko would be available’ (referring to outgoing Hawks coach Alastair Clarkson), which is the preferred option of the billionaires.

> Or does it ‘make a change now because Teague cannot create a game plan and there is genuine concern over the direction of the group’ — the preferred option of the non-billionaires.

> Alternatives to take over: Brad Scott, Ross Lyon, Alastair Clarkson or Don Pyke.

> Justin Leppitsch’s recent comments on the Blues’ decision-making left a sour taste in their mouth.

> Scott is labelled ‘the most likely pick’ as the AFL ‘wants us to take him’ but there’s a query over his ability to recruit big name assistants, unlike Ross Lyon.

> Lyon is very unlikely to get the job because of the way he left Fremantle.

> Pyke is very well liked by the review team with John ‘Horse’ Longmire saying he ‘is the best assistant we’ve ever had’ at the Swans.

> Leppitsch very unlikely. Not good at Lions.

> A process will be undertaken to appoint a new coach by a panel of football people after a new head of football is appointed.

The email also apparently states the club will be getting rid of Brad Lloyd, Teague and the assistants, bar Luke Power and Daniel O’Keefe.

Cain Liddle’s position as chief executive is under intense scrutiny. The club’s recruiter Nick Austin another in the gun.

A change in the team’s captaincy is also forecast according to the document, stating defender Jacob Weitering would be anointed the new leader with young gun Sam Walsh his vice-captain.

Patrick Cripps needs to focus on his body and getting fit, it reportedly states.

And the playing group as a whole were labelled ‘Hollywood’ pertaining to their alleged rock star lifestyle and egos.

Other big name players are also listed and potentially on the chopping block according to this document.

It’s alleged Levi Casboult, Mark Murphy, Eddie Betts and Caleb Marchbank have had their papers stamped.

And Sam Petreski Seton and Fisher will return to Western Australia. On the trade table, according to the document, would be; Saad, McGovern, Martin and Williams.

The document suggests there was an 11am phone hook up via WebEX between key board members last Sunday, we believe.

The review which is being undertaken presented some initial findings to incoming president Luke Sayers, outgoing president Mark Loguidice and three others (whose names are not listed).

Fiction or fact? Guess we will find out in the weeks and month to come.

During the call, I think it was on the radio (listened to the 1st quarter in the car) BT called O'Brien a poor kick and asked Bartel about his development.

I saw Plowman take a few bounces and stroll through the middle of the ground with no pressure for example.

BREAKING, via Jon Anderson: "As Carlton continues a review into its football department, some findings can be revealed & don’t make for pretty reading for those in charge.
For those desperate to know how the Carlton review will go, buckle your seat belts & get ready for change.
Anderson: "Some of the findings are said to include a lack of player development, player “cliques” (with large, unjustified salaries an issue), culture deficiencies, poor behaviours, consistently long injury list & meddling from outside departments into football matters."
Anderson: "The 3-person panel will shortly table its report. Could it also include regrets from some parents that their sons were actually drafted by the club?
And do players have total faith in selection integrity? A term that first introduced during the Brendon Bolton years."
Anderson: "The other issue for Carlton over the next 2 years is an extremely tight salary cap that is going to have to find room for emerging superstar’s Sam Walsh new deal as he comes out of contract at the end of 2022. It might even mean Walsh is paid under market value."