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How is it  we compare Mark LeCras and Jack Silvagni?......one is a small forward and the other plays mainly as a 3rd tall forward..

LeCras is a clever small to mid forward(182cm) who was a great kick for goal and had some tricks, also was very good over head for his size...
Jack is a 3rd tall forward around the McGovern size who has been tried as a tall onballer and a half back flanker..
IMO two different players, Jack is honest, tries hard but now McGovern has arrived is out of a job..

Because he is the son of a legendary player and now list manager he will get extra opportunities to find a position but has his work cut out unless
we have massive injuries. Setterfield is the new tall mid and we have half back flankers on tap now with Docherty, Williamson and Newman back/onboard.

Jack is jack of all trades but master of none unfortunately....he will become a delist candidate down the track given we are weeding out the spuds and will have less options
to chop if things go to plan, However the rookie list will probably be his saviour as I dont see his father or the club sending him on his way in a undignified manner...

You can't be talking about SOJ because he simply doesn't play as a tall forward of any description.  He spent a lot of 2018 in defence and in the midfield but, when he was in the forward line, his role is more of a small to medium forward.  Yes, he does take the odd contested mark but his strengths as a forward are more about getting into space and judging the fall of the ball. 

I reckon Jeza's comparison with Le Cras is a worthwhile exercise and it's interesting to compare their stats at the same age; SOJ just pips Le Cras 

DJ.....Lecras 182cm/82kg...Jack 191cm/89kg...............I'm getting old but my maths is still ok   Jack IMO is a 3rd tall forward and has no resemblance to a small forward...
Jack is actually 1cm taller than McGovern, if he plays as a small forward he would be the slowest small forward on this planet or any other planet.

Alex Fasalo is your Mark Lecras comparison player 181cm/84kg......good overhead, can snap/crumb a goal and leads well...plays the same way IMO.....

Dont get me wrong...I like Jack, think he has handled himself well and has a fair weight of expectation to carry around which is a tough gig for a young kid...but he wasnt pick 53 for nothing.....his TAC form was reasonable without being fantastic and he has been handy at senior level at times but as the list improves and we get some better talented kids in the team he will struggle to keep a place as he has his limitations.
Charlie, McGovern, Harry, Fazzy boy.........dont see room for Jack except as backup.....
It shows the list is improving which is a good sign but there has to be some casualties and Jack is lucky he will get more opportunities than most but unless he improves his skills, pace and can find a role he can make his own I cant see him in the senior team unless we get another massive injury list in 2019...ditto for his mate Cuningham....
If you asked most on this forum to pick a best 22 I think you would find most couldnt find a spot for Jack......?

DJ.....Lecras 182cm/82kg...Jack 191cm/89kg...............I'm getting old but my maths is still ok   Jack IMO is a 3rd tall forward and has no resemblance to a small forward...
Jack is actually 1cm taller than McGovern, if he plays as a small forward he would be the slowest small forward on this planet or any other planet.

Alex Fasalo is your Mark Lecras comparison player 181cm/84kg......good overhead, can snap/crumb a goal and leads well...plays the same way IMO.....

Dont get me wrong...I like Jack, think he has handled himself well and has a fair weight of expectation to carry around which is a tough gig for a young kid...but he wasnt pick 53 for nothing.....his TAC form was reasonable without being fantastic and he has been handy at senior level at times but as the list improves and we get some better talented kids in the team he will struggle to keep a place as he has his limitations.
Charlie, McGovern, Harry, Fazzy boy.........dont see room for Jack except as backup.....
It shows the list is improving which is a good sign but there has to be some casualties and Jack is lucky he will get more opportunities than most but unless he improves his skills, pace and can find a role he can make his own I cant see him in the senior team unless we get another massive injury list in 2019...ditto for his mate Cuningham....
If you asked most on this forum to pick a best 22 I think you would find most couldnt find a spot for Jack......?

Hopefully this works out as it says here.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/11/02/silvagni-ranked-setterfield-best-in-draft-class-says-blues-ceo/

He didn't, he bid on him at 6, GWS matched then he picked SPS

Looking forward to seeing Setterfield get an injury free run at it. SOS is a pretty good judge so if he had him at 1 he must be a handy player. We cant have enough young midfielders on the list.