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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: Thryleon on
I think you boys are confusing getting blown away by a team in peak physical form, fitness with a team thats been banged up, the boys were willing we just didnt have the wheels to go with them and got cut up once the swans running game got going.  The Swans destroyed gws not long ago in similar fashion.

When you're slow and spemding your chips trying to go quick, the inside work eventually drops off because you're gassed.  Last night wasn't about effort, or even desire.  The desire was there, if it wasn't the first quarter doesn't happen where we go 4 goals up.  The consistency is what's missing, and some capability.
Yep
Consistency of effort and cohesion between lines comes from a settled team playing together week out and week in.
Without it you get uncertainty.
There were some cringeworthy moments last night- silly  handpasses to players under pressure , indecision about leaving your man to go to a contest, hesitation etc.
They are symptoms of a team struggling without normal structures.
Swans were able to man up on our key playmakers because there were so many others causing them no grief at all.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by PaulP -
I agree Thry. The boys are professional athletes. They have pride in their performance and they want to do well. They have the glare of the entire AFL community and are answerable to coaches, team mates etc. I'm not sure they can get away with being lazy, even if they wanted to. It's just not logical to think that.

Folks don't think that Voss can spot a half arsed effort a mile out ?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Thryleon -
I think you boys are confusing getting blown away by a team in peak physical form, fitness with a team thats been banged up, the boys were willing we just didnt have the wheels to go with them and got cut up once the swans running game got going.  The Swans destroyed gws not long ago in similar fashion.

When you're slow and spemding your chips trying to go quick, the inside work eventually drops off because you're gassed.  Last night wasn't about effort, or even desire.  The desire was there, if it wasn't the first quarter doesn't happen where we go 4 goals up.  The consistency is what's missing, and some capability.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: Thryleon on
I wouldn't call us bruise free.  There was plenty of effort but not much method.  Tactics are the difference between talent and ability and a good footy team.  We rely heavily on talented individuals it seems. 
Swans walked through our tackles and we had players pull up in contests. Look at the one per center stats too.
Rowbottom had 16 tackles....even stars like Heeney and Grundy worked hard tackling ,everything they did was effort based to win the game IMHO.
We have the talent as the first quarter showed..
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Micky0 -
As someone else said, we looked completely gassed and never looked a chance at running down a player.

Cohesion does seem to have faltered and that’s not surprising given the continually growing injury list.

Really missed Cotters last night.

The lack of skills shown by us was depressing and took me back to the bad old days.

Let’s not forget they really got on top once Weiters was subbed out - it may not have gotten so bad if he’d stayed on. 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Good teams find a way, we were not even competitive after quarter time.
Tired and we are not even midway through the season? About 4 or 5 of our blokes haven't had a kick for weeks now, don't know how they got tired...running through the banner?
It was all about effort and lack of..as soon as the Swans locked down on Cripps and Walsh we stopped and lost interest when it got hard. The SCG isn't a big ground but requires contested players who can get their own ball, break tackles and scrap for loose balls. Sure we have injuries but good teams ie Collingwood last season find a way to win and be competitive.
We were the lazy, non competitive bruise free Blues last night and I thought those days were over...



Perfect summation EB👏