Carlton Supporters Club

Bloody terrific comments here. This is probably one of the most important threads at present... supported by the apparent fact that the players came out of their meeting after Sunday night realising they had not played for each other.

How could that happen in the first place? Seething. 

Why can't this group concentrate for 120 minutes? A previous poster mentioned how the Dawks players jump around all over the mark, and I would add that they invariably also grab a cm or 55 in the process - that takes an attitude of absolute rage that the opposition has got the aggott and a ruthless commitment to give 150% of every second of every minute to make it tough for opponents when they've got the aggott, plus a ruthless commitment to get it back... etc. (terribly worded paragraph... hope you get what I mean).

This group won't win a Premiership but FFS let's at least get the best out of them between now and r22 so we know who stays and who goes. And that could easily apply to all coaches as well.

We all watched Dylan Buckley go it alone with Goddard until Jamison strolled in late to push Goddard away but on Footy Classified they also showed an Essendon newbie in Jason Ashby pushing Marc Murphy on the boundary line......its not on and Murphy should have not allowed some pimply faced kid to stand over him....Murphy took it and walked away. We have to get tougher as a team and Murphy has to toughen up as captain or lose the job IMO.
Its sends the wrong message to the playing group and to opposing teams......we were/are weak and the Bombers know they can bully us.

Quote from: bmaurizio on April 09, 2014, 12:25:44 pm

One can contest aggressively even bully , but be smart about it . That's what needs to be taught and instilled into the players, it will take a long time and right attitude, from  leaders examples. That's the difference.
Look at Hodge, Mitchell, skilled and experienced and  yet they get away with it easily so often.
Retaliating per say is childish and unprofessional and will land them in more trouble.

Hodge is a smug thug sniper, and the Dawks love him for it!

"And they will know that they've been playing
Against the famous Old Dark Blues"

To me at least, this line has always meant that the opposition will ALWAYS come off the ground after the final siren battered and bruised knowing they have played a tough, hard game of football and where if they didn't play at their best, they were going to get smashed.

To me we have lost an important and proud part of our culture. Surely some of the spirit of Carlton guys could remind our current players what the last couple of lines of our song is supposed to mean !!

difference with the hawks is 3 fold
hard to get back into the side if you fk up
they have a real resolve not to let their mates down
their leadership group is as hard as nails

we just don't have any of that at carlton

Quote from: LP on April 09, 2014, 01:17:35 pm

Quote from: bmaurizio on April 09, 2014, 12:25:44 pm

One can contest aggressively even bully , but be smart about it . That's what needs to be taught and instilled into the players, it will take a long time and right attitude, from  leaders examples. That's the difference.
Look at Hodge, Mitchell, skilled and experienced and  yet they get away with it easily so often.
Retaliating per say is childish and unprofessional and will land them in more trouble.

Hodge is a smug thug sniper, and the Dawks love him for it!

Add to that overrated hack IMO however by Christ he can lead a group of men. He talks people listen, he acts people are intimidated.

There is still time to grow some balls. We saw Brisbane turn it around and win a flag after we flogged them in 2001. I think we need to stop bagging our guys and let them know what we expect from them. A hard, uncompromising, team-oriented effort.

Quote from: Jofo on April 09, 2014, 07:03:59 pm

There is still time to grow some balls. We saw Brisbane turn it around and win a flag after we flogged them in 2001. I think we need to stop bagging our guys and let them know what we expect from them. A hard, uncompromising, team-oriented effort.

One word, Ruthless.

"And they will know that they've been playing
Against the famous Old Dark Blues"

To me at least, this line has always meant that the opposition will ALWAYS come off the ground after the final siren battered and bruised knowing they have played a tough, hard game of football and where if they didn't play at their best, they were going to get smashed.

To me we have lost an important and proud part of our culture. Surely some of the spirit of Carlton guys could remind our current players what the last couple of lines of our song is supposed to mean !!

Quote from: Amers on April 09, 2014, 07:19:03 pm

"And they will know that they've been playing
Against the famous Old Dark Blues"

To me at least, this line has always meant that the opposition will ALWAYS come off the ground after the final siren battered and bruised knowing they have played a tough, hard game of football and where if they didn't play at their best, they were going to get smashed.

To me we have lost an important and proud part of our culture. Surely some of the spirit of Carlton guys could remind our current players what the last couple of lines of our song is supposed to mean !!

I have been to many SOC lunches and functions, I have seen the current day players at these functions. Despite being the presence of some of Australian Rules's greatest players, they are constantly looking at their phones and watches dying to get the fork out of there.

Quote from: Gointocarlton on April 09, 2014, 07:35:58 pm

Quote from: Amers on April 09, 2014, 07:19:03 pm

"And they will know that they've been playing
Against the famous Old Dark Blues"

To me at least, this line has always meant that the opposition will ALWAYS come off the ground after the final siren battered and bruised knowing they have played a tough, hard game of football and where if they didn't play at their best, they were going to get smashed.

To me we have lost an important and proud part of our culture. Surely some of the spirit of Carlton guys could remind our current players what the last couple of lines of our song is supposed to mean !!

I have been to many SOC lunches and functions, I have seen the current day players at these functions. Despite being the presence of some of Australian Rules's greatest players, they are constantly looking at their phones and watches dying to get the fork out of there.

that's a concern

Quote from: Gointocarlton on April 09, 2014, 07:30:29 pm

Quote from: Jofo on April 09, 2014, 07:03:59 pm

There is still time to grow some balls. We saw Brisbane turn it around and win a flag after we flogged them in 2001. I think we need to stop bagging our guys and let them know what we expect from them. A hard, uncompromising, team-oriented effort.

One word, Ruthless.

Always been my favourite word for our football club... now for our group to get that word into their blood stream.