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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 9 2024 Carlton vs Gold Coast at Carlton
Saw something in that qtr you never want to see... Dom A is out marked at FF, his opponent turns and runs into goal and Dom A immediately gave up the chase - just turned and walked away. Yes, it was pretty inevitable (the goal) but to turn and walk away before his opponent had kicked the ball... not on.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast
Quote from: Thryleon on
Can anyone see us winning today based on what we've been doing for 4 quarters most weeks?

We don't look fit, and we were soundly obliterated after half time last week.

If young is fit he should be playing.  Weiters going down cooked us, you could argue we looked better with young than without him so far this season.

Absolutely I can see us winning. And winning well, based on our potential and learning from the errors of the season thus far.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast
Quote from: blueday on
How has Fantasia kept his spot? What on earth is going on!!

 :-X Durdin gets the flick and Fantasia keeps his spot  :-X

No Motlop.

Marchbank managed after 2 games, 1 in the Magoos and 1 at senior level. Someone is ripping the p155 out of us. Perhaps the truth would have had the media all over our fitness dept., again, for all the wrong reasons.

Anyway, an improved side.

No way am I even going to speculate who the sub will be.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast
Quote from: Professer E on
Ollie did ok in the first half vs the dees the week prior though

Yep, when we were in charge of the game... but when the pressure came, our system was countered, he (and some others), wilted, failed to step up, failed when the need arrived to grit teeth and dig deep and get back to basics, especially sticking tackles and hurting for your team mate.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: The Zuton factor - Pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure
Quote from: kruddler on
This.

I feel the same way and my issues with him initially was that he folded under pressure and his kicking suffered.

As you mention, it's still a bit of a worry, but he has improved a lot in this area.

If we had someone else capable of negating small forwards, I'd be keen to get him further up the ground and help our connection between mids and forwards and also between forwards and the big sticks.

Yep. He'd be deadly with space and ball in hand around the middle and high half forward... even high half back.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast
Quote from: kruddler on
For a team that has consistently lacked run and effort lately, i'm not sure why people feel the need to drop Ollie Hollands.

He gives 100%, 100% of the time. He is not the problem.

If we start dropping people based on output, how far down our team do we get before we get to Ollie Hollands.....and how far down are VFL team to do we get before we find a replacement.
I'll save the effort. There is nothing better below. Ollie stays.


Criticism of Ollie is not about his tireless effort. He runs and runs and runs... but not enough comes from all that effort. Acres runs and runs all day as well, with considerable impact in games.

Ollie needs, like many others, to commit his body to tackling, his tackling efforts have been and are a liability... easily broken. The only reason I recommend dropping Ollie to the Magoos is so he can learn to add other strings to his bow.

I understand the sentimentality of giving senior games to such a terrific kid with considerable running ability... but with cold objectivity it's obvious he needs a chance to develop more confidence in other areas of his game as he just isn't delivering hurt to the opposition with his disposals.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast
As painful as it was, I just watched the Fluffy Ducks and Go Dees games again.
Similar errors/worrries in each game:
* Failed/limp tackles.
* After a fast start and opponents make changes to address our start, we do not make changes.
* Ordinary mid/forward connection.
* With the exception of Owies, so little from small forwards.
* Not getting enough from Charles' abilities beyond FF.
* Cruelled by injuries to key personnel.
...and so on.

To beat GCS:
(IMHO)
* Drop non-hackers/contributors - Durdin, Fantasia, O Hollands.
* Reward consistent good form from players in the Magoos, specifically - Binns, Cowan. Binns must shake his head and wonder what is up, especially when he sees how little the above three are providing. Commit and invest in the kid with consistent games.
* Tackling: Too many blokes failing to commit to the tackle of an opponent. Too timid. Between the lugholes. The failure of some to commit the body to the tackle is embarrassing. Poor intent.
* Safe. To beat GCS we need boldness... run, carry. Can't be terrified to make a mistake against this mob.
* Coaching:  FFS do something when the opposition is countering well our plan. Imagination. We've got blokes who have taken the field in the past two weeks who are quick, but this ability is not being utilized. Cincotta is one of the quickest blokes at the club, having him as a lockdown defender only is a waste. Fear/safe coaching. He and Boyd need more license to take the game on... Charles also, the bloke is uncanny, let him into the midfield at times. Develop more blokes who can run through the midfield - Cowan is another bloke who can be be given moments there. Okay, Williams didn't make it as a midfielder, but persisting with him as a high forward and going through the midfield at times is worth trying. Expand the dimensions of our midfield, keep the GCSs guessing.
* Run with: Chugga seems to be our only run with and does a good job unless his opponent is quick... then he's too slow. Cincotta? Cowan? Williams? Let's play more blokes to their strengths.
*Above the shoulders: Where's the boldness, run, hunting, hunger for the contest, intense tackling pressure, confidence, mongrel???
* Changes: IN: Binns, Cowan, Motlop, Saad. Out: Durdin, Fantasia, O Hollands, Carroll.
(If Weiters doesn't come up, Young in). Give Jack M more time to get his calves 100% right.

If you keep doing what you've always done you'll keep getting what you've always got. Throw out the stubbornness and initiate flexibility. Learn that lesson from Fluffy Ducks/John Longmire.