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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: pinot on
We got beaten in the middle - they had two taggers basically - Rowbottom was on a tackling warpath and Jordan kept holding onto Walsh restricting him from hunting the ball. We didn't reciprocate with our own tagger(s) - Pitto had zero tackles and Grundy had a party on him. I understand we are trying to implement our own style but clubs have figured us out and taggers are now back in vogue.
I agree, Hewett is probably our main run with player and Kennedy can do the job as well as provide some drive but both Warner and Heeney have them for pace and once goalside with a break on our players they were not going to be caught.
The player we miss in the middle like I said before is Cerra who has a bit more toe and a bit more class and would have been a better match for Warner in particular and would have required both those Swans mids to pay attention to rather than being fully offensive players. When we have Cripps, Walsh, Kennedy and Hewett in the middle we can look slow on the chase as a few news articles have suggested, I'd like to see E. Hollands spend a bit more time in the middle and maybe do what a few other teams do and throw the odd different player in there..
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: The Zuton factor - Pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
I think Boyd is a good kick but is better when he is in the clear and heading forward, for a VFL unknown player I have warmed to Boyd and think he is in our best 22/23 and happy to give Austin a tick for his recruiting.

This.

I feel the same way and my issues with him initially was that he folded under pressure and his kicking suffered.

As you mention, it's still a bit of a worry, but he has improved a lot in this area.

If we had someone else capable of negating small forwards, I'd be keen to get him further up the ground and help our connection between mids and forwards and also between forwards and the big sticks.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: The Zuton factor - Pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure
Last post by Lods -
Boyd's kicking when he has time is excellent.
He goes at 82% efficiency.

He gets in trouble at times when-
-He tends to rush the hack kick out, which often comes straight back.
-He takes risks, which in itself isn't a bad thing (I think we play too cautious a lot of the time, especially when we build a lead.) These risks have proved costly when he kicks to situations which aren't really advantageous.

A lot of these things improve with game time and he's still only played 26.
He has courage, and a bit of mongrel.
He's going OK and doing his job.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast
Last post by pinot -
We got beaten in the middle - they had two taggers basically - Rowbottom was on a tackling warpath and Jordan kept holding onto Walsh restricting him from hunting the ball. We didn't reciprocate with our own tagger(s) - Pitto had zero tackles and Grundy had a party on him. I understand we are trying to implement our own style but clubs have figured us out and taggers are now back in vogue.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
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Agree. Ollie is not a problem and while he is not perfect im far more concerned at the lack of defensive effort from the reigning coleman medalist.

He is lazy selfish and needs to improve that side of his game imo.
Agree...been a bit of video footage on TV regarding his lack of second efforts and he needs to improve that part of his game.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast
Last post by shawny -
Quote from: kruddler on
For a team that has consistently lacked run and effort lately, i'm not sure why people feel the need to drop Ollie Hollands.

He gives 100%, 100% of the time. He is not the problem.

If we start dropping people based on output, how far down our team do we get before we get to Ollie Hollands.....and how far down are VFL team to do we get before we find a replacement.
I'll save the effort. There is nothing better below. Ollie stays.


Agree. Ollie is not a problem and while he is not perfect im far more concerned at the lack of defensive effort from the reigning coleman medalist.

He is lazy selfish and needs to improve that side of his game imo.