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Messages - Gointocarlton

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
For me it:

FB Nic Newman   Jacob Weitering   Jordan Boyd
HB Brodie Kemp   Mitch McGovern   Caleb Marchbank
C Blake Acres   Patrick Cripps   Oliver Hollands
HF Matt Cottrell   Charlie Curnow   David Cuningham
FF Tom De Koning   Harry McKay   Matt Owies
F Marc Pittonet   Adam Cerra   Sam Walsh
INT George Hewett   Matthew Kennedy   Elijah Hollands   Corey Durdin
SUB Lachlan Cowan or Alex Cincotta

IN McGovern Kemp Marchbank Hollands
OUT Williams Fantasia Young Cowan or Cincotta

Completely new HB line
Ollie back in on a wing
We played the two rucks, no Harry and won that epic final.
We had Doc and Saady though.
Durdin Cunningham Elijah, consider yourselves lucky. Voss might not be as kind to you.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Not to mention TDK has been a very dangerous addition to the forwardline, and he has been scoring his 1 to 2 goals a game (should have had 3 against the Pies, but missed one that was gettable).

I think we just need to tidy it up a bit, and be a bit smarter and we will be fine.  No need to panic, its not a personell issue, its an execution problem. 
Yes. This week, they have gun defenders in  May Lever and McDonald to have a dance with Charlie Harry and Tom.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
The good thing is these events are all easy fixes that have cost us games, as long as there is the will to fix them, and the fixes do not require some 3rd party to see it our way!
Yes and so far, the responses have been good. Not perfect but you can see intent. Once we get key players back from injury, the cream will rise to the top, it always does.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
For all the vitriol in the fans base directed towards Williams, there were two other complete brain fades that cost us goals during the game.

The first was in the critical moment letting an opponent make an extra number goal side of our defence in our D50, a player that most can't possibly catch given a step or two of head start.

The second was one of our other defenders turning traffic cone earlier in the game, as he became paralysed by the Filth tsunami sweeping around him,.

Both these incidents were moments of inaction that lead to goals free of umpire influence, and far far worse than Williams.
its a footy forum, its not vitriol, its not personal (at least its not meant to be). Its people with opinions pointing out perceived deficiencies or f-ups by players. If you dont like it, start a Kum Ba Yah All Sunshine and Rainbows thread and live in that for the week. For years no one was allowed to point out Plowman's lack of defensive ability because he was a "much loved team mate" (until he wasn't). As Voss said, in a close game its all about the little things, small margins. A few of our blokes would love their time again and I'm sure it will be pointed out to them this week during the review, even Bambi.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
So far this year all our losses have been on us. We have lost them ourselves alot more than the other side won them. essentially our own dumb fault. Lost very narrowly to a couple of very good sides despite playing poor footy. Essentially a lack of the intensity we had last year. What we do this year is up to us, no-one else. Play with the right intensity and we roll anyone. Hopefully this happens when the whips crack in the 2nd half of the year when it is time to peak.
Whilst I think we need to beat the contenders, I'd more pissed off or concerned if we dropped more games like the Adelaide one where we simply should not have.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Yep he nailed it and I thought the midfield stuff was on the money too, they had a plan , worked us out and I thought Pendlebury was finished but he played some game on the bigger Cripps.
Charlie might be carrying a niggle that is preventing him from churning out kms or being explosive. Who knows? All I can see is that he isn't himself. Again, I dont want to highlight him when you have 7 or 8 that were very bad.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Collingwood's game tally for tackles, and tackles I50 were significantly above their season averages. Their tally for I50's and clearances was also well above their average.

They played out of their skins on the tackling side of things, and that level of commitment and effort is not sustainable.
I thought everything about their "game" wasn't sustainable last year until it was.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Go back and watch the replay, Walsh is basically in a bear hug every other stoppage with arms around his waist, nada, nothing, nought!

Fans want to whack Williams, but what he did players do all the time and do not get pinged. The willingness of fans to throw rocks at Williams goes back to when he signed on, fans bitched and moaned about the dollars, but that is not Williams fault, much like it wasn't the fault of Martin or McGovern before him. But the dollars put him in the sh1thouse with many fans forever more with the dollars equating to tall poppy syndrome!

Then you have the intentional out of bounds, our bloke gets pinged for a kick off the side of the boot, Pendlebury kicks it 50m almost directly sideways in the dying moments and gets away with it.

These are game changing moments caused by officials not good play by an opponent.

I get our club doesn't want to be seen as whinging, but if they are raising these issues in a very public way it's never going to go our way. The privacy does nothing, we need the AFL giving fans a public explanation. When the AFL officials get sick of making up excuses, the errors will diminish.
I dont need to watch anything, I saw it the first time.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Agree.....the Voss reaction with Cerra on the boundary shows he isnt happy and Id expect a few home truths and back to basics football vs Melbourne with defense ,manning up as a priority and sticking to the game plan.
Its not panic stations yet but we need to beat the Colls, the Geels, etc. Right now with Freo beating Rich, we are sitting 8th.