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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: tonyo on
I saw one part where he was 'chasing' Warner down the wing, and he was truly in second gear at best. 

That's the problem with so many of the team atm - not bad when they've got the ball, but almost disinterested when they don't.........

Without knowing the incident you are talking about i can't really comment too much.

However, i do know that Hollands (with Walsh and Cottrell) do more km's a match than everyone else in the team.
Same group do more 'repeat sprints' than anyone else as well.
So its definitely possible that that what you witnessed could've come after some big runs/sprints that took a bit of the sting out of his legs and did not have a chance to recover.

Had you pointed the same out about just about anyone else, then more than likely it would be nothing more than effort. With Hollands though, it could be more about exhaustion more than effort.

Perhaps he needs to be smarter with his running and running patterns so he does not fall in a hole when we need him, not sure.

I just know that i'd be pointing the finger at plenty of others before i got to him.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast
Last post by tonyo -
Quote from: kruddler on
For a team that has consistently lacked run and effort lately, i'm not sure why people feel the need to drop Ollie Hollands.

He gives 100%, 100% of the time. He is not the problem.

If we start dropping people based on output, how far down our team do we get before we get to Ollie Hollands.....and how far down are VFL team to do we get before we find a replacement.
I'll save the effort. There is nothing better below. Ollie stays.

I saw one part where he was 'chasing' Warner down the wing, and he was truly in second gear at best.  

That's the problem with so many of the team atm - not bad when they've got the ball, but almost disinterested when they don't.........
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: kruddler on
For a team that has consistently lacked run and effort lately, i'm not sure why people feel the need to drop Ollie Hollands.

He gives 100%, 100% of the time. He is not the problem.

If we start dropping people based on output, how far down our team do we get before we get to Ollie Hollands.....and how far down are VFL team to do we get before we find a replacement.
I'll save the effort. There is nothing better below. Ollie stays.

I agree there is nothing better to bring in, Ollie's attacking game is ok, Im probably more concerned about his defensive side and opponents getting off the leash but he is still a newbie with upside so that should improve.  Id even be trying him as a small forward and seeing if he can give us something more than the present occupants of those positions.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast
Last post by kruddler -
For a team that has consistently lacked run and effort lately, i'm not sure why people feel the need to drop Ollie Hollands.

He gives 100%, 100% of the time. He is not the problem.

If we start dropping people based on output, how far down our team do we get before we get to Ollie Hollands.....and how far down are VFL team to do we get before we find a replacement.
I'll save the effort. There is nothing better below. Ollie stays.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: The Zuton factor - Pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: LP on
I suspect we miss Saad more, we've shown we can still score our problem seems to be stopping opposition scores.
I think Boyd has a done a decent job in filling in for Saad and even Cincotta defensively but we miss that rebound and accurate  kicking that Saad provides as it breaks up the play and those quick switches across ground often lead to thrusts forward where our big key forwards can be one out.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: The Zuton factor - Pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: madbluboy on
We miss Fogarty.

We do.
But what's also missing across the board is that defensive attack on the ball and the player in possession  that saw us with two players in  just about every tackle after the turn around last year. Fogarty was a big part of that.  Effort and pressure have slackened off.
Maybe the players subconsciously thought that once they found that intensity it would just remain without having to work for it.
They need to re-find it or the season will be gone.