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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Not paying the ones to Harry doesnt make the Elliot ones not there. Point is he panicked everytime the ball csme to them
Agree....I think its obvious ZW isnt comfortable back on the last line and the selection of opponent is important and while Im not defending him giving away the free's I feel the coaching staff have to wear some of the blame.
You have another nervous defender in Young plus two inexperienced players in Cowan and Cincotta and the pressure is a lot different to when you have regulars like Saad, McGovern and even Docherty down back.
Elliott needs a taller player to control his marking ability and ZW isnt a strong overhead player or suited, I'll repeat that with McGovern out I would never have dropped Kemp and either used him on Elliott or at least used him to provide cover for Williams.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by kruddler -
I confess to being absolutely baffled when it comes to 'holding the man,' 'dropping the ball,' 'incorrect disposal' and 'holding the ball' unless blatantly obvious. Totally confused. It used to be pretty clear cut, but now it seems there are tolerable grey areas for all these which only creates further confusion in an already difficult to adjudicate game. But with these tolerated grey areas you end up with too much individual umpire interpretation. Some times you can watch one game, then another, and swear there were different rules for each! Result? Inconsistency... the continual complaint from supporters.

Just one example: There was a time where if you took possession of the aggot and tackled, and the ball was dislodged - automatic free kick against... regardless.

The AFL needs, on Monday mornings, to explain contentious frees and non-frees to educate us so we can better understand how the game is adjudicated.

One way to make it easier for umpires, players and supporters alike....

Remove prior opportunity.

Less grey area equals less margin for error.

Could also lead to an overall jump in free kicks given making the odd one that goes against you less influencial overall.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Agree.....the Voss reaction with Cerra on the boundary shows he isnt happy and Id expect a few home truths and back to basics football vs Melbourne with defense ,manning up as a priority and sticking to the game plan.
Its not panic stations yet but we need to beat the Colls, the Geels, etc. Right now with Freo beating Rich, we are sitting 8th.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Right this very minute, I say we are the posers and better rectify it quickly if we want to contend.
Agree.....the Voss reaction with Cerra on the boundary shows he isnt happy and Id expect a few home truths and back to basics football vs Melbourne with defense ,manning up as a priority and sticking to the game plan.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
When Daicos jr kicked that goal it reminded so much of his father in terms of how he runs, the balance and laying the ball across the boot. His old man is over the top and as GTC has said that when he gets on the drink he acts stupidly, carries on and you can really see him still living the dream through his kids and I wonder how he will react when things dont go their way which will happen one day.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Geelong are posers we should have won that game last week if it wasn't for meek defensive efforts from the usual suspects - giving away goals like lollies.

Better defensively against the Filth and Gov is coming back which will settle and reinforce the defence a little bit more.
Right this very minute, I say we are the posers and better rectify it quickly if we want to contend.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Baggers -
wait, wait, wait … just watched the Sunday Footy Show highlighting how they blocked Cripps at every centre bounce.

 I mean, COME ON. If that sort of treatment doesn’t warrant a rule change I don’t know what does.

So the ball is NOT in play, there’s NO actual contest yet, in some instances the location was more than 10 metres away from where the ball was about to be bounced, and the opposing player did NOT have eyes for the ball.

So if you take your eyes off the ball and look at your opponent for a split second in a marking contest it’s a free every single time.

Also an instant free for “blocking” if the player’s path to a marking contest is impeded.

Why is that treated differently?

Of course, nothing new here - has been happening for years, and not just to Cripps.  McCrae is portrayed as the good guy but I think this belies his Sheedy- or Clarkson-like approach to pushing things to the limit. He was even astute enough to make Pendlebury the blocker knowing he’s an ump favourite who has the footballing IQ to disguise the blocks.

Which brings me to Pendelbury’s last centre clearance - did he or did he not head straight for the boundary line?
Great observation from one commentator that doing that is win/win. If the ump pings him for “insufficient intent” it gives them time to set up behind the ball. If the ump is too gutless to make the call it’s a throw in just far enough away from goal.


You can bet the family home that if the same tactics were done to Pendlebury, there'd be a hue and cry... and he'd get plenty of free kicks!

So glad the footy show highlighted this. In effect, opposition clubs are using illegal tactics to blunt our strengths - I include H and Charles in this as well.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Baggers -
That's how it's umpired, paying the Elliott frees is fair enough but Harry got nothing for the same holding treatment down the other end and I think that's what's irking a few fans .

Glad you mentioned this. The illegal tactics used on H and Charles, in particular, are, to be blunt, horrendous. And the blocking of Crippa is something I hope the club brings to the attention of the AFL. Pronto.