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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Scotto To Play On If Body Permits
I can't help but think these comments will come back to bite scotland on the butt when it becomes clear that he may no longer be in the clubs future plans.

If it was me, i'd keep him on next year. Not sure the club believes the same thing, but got nothing to go on other than a hunch.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Garlett Dropped Last Week For Disciplinary Reasons
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He's 22 years old and some Indigenous players do tend to take a little time and a little nurturing. Given the right development he would be well worth it.

What about  Wingard, Prestia, Omera, Cameron. 

Your missing the point and failing to accept his application is all wrong regardless of liking the coach or not. 


No you're missing the point. Yarran needs to be nurtured, I'm happy for him not to be but taking it to the other extreme and using him as a public scapegoat? Sheer lunacy.

Fev needed to be nurtured.

We turned a blind eye to his antics as he was a special talent. He never grew up, and in the end the club suffered from this.

Yarran needs to speed up his (off-field) development and realise that an AFL career is far too short to be pissing away seasons. In the end, nobody else is to blame.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Garlett Dropped Last Week For Disciplinary Reasons
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Apparently was supposed to attend the game the week before, was a no show and his excuse was he rocked up to the ground, couldn't find a park and went home. LOL.*

*According to Damian Barrett on TFS.

But Mick only plays favourites and only disciplines Yarran.

He wouldn't discipline someone like Garlett who is his new favourite....
Oh wait.  :-[

I've got no problem with the way Mick has ruled the roost and trying to get our rabble of a club focused on the end game. Taking no crap on and off the field sets the right example.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Karma
When used correctly, it is a nice addition.

When people abuse the system it ruins it for everyone.

I suspected it may eventually go down the path it did and was actually surprised it lasted as long as it did.


Like the post counts before it, people abuse the system.

In short, this is why we can't have nice things.  :P
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: RD 21 : Blues Torture Tigers (Tiger-Taming Tweets)
I said to a mate before the game started that we are horribly out of form, lost a lot of players through injury, including JUDD and the tiggers are essentially the opposite - in form, fit and firing.
As a result there is absolutely no logical reason why we should even come close to them.....and thats why i tipped us.

It makes no sense, yet perfect sense. Expect the unexpected with us.

Bombers are are going into an irrecoverable nose dive and we have turned things around playing the best game for the year. All signs look good for us....so we will probably lose. :???:

That being said, we were great yesterday and had very few passengers on the day. Everyone put in and worked well as a TEAM. If we continue to do that, then we will embarrass quite a few supposed quality teams.

Special mention to Curnow who will mostly go unnoticed for his terrific efforts on Cotchin. Flogged him.
Plenty of other winners across the board, but think it started with him.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Chappell on development - "Pick 'em before you need 'em"
On Triple M a few weeks ago they had former Australian Cricket Captain Ian Chappell on and he was talking about development of the Australian Cricket team. What he said was rather generic and could certainly be applied to any sporting organisation out there. Specifically ones struggling with development.

Now i was only half listening but one thing that he said stood out, and it stood out because it reminded me of Mick Malthouse and how he goes about picking the sides.

When it comes to developing the kids and bringing in a succession plan for players who may be getting on a bit he said you must...
"Pick 'em before you need 'em"

Players need to know what they will be getting themselves into. They need to have an idea of what the step up in class is, so they can work towards it in their training and mental preperation. I subscribe to this theory. I think Geelong and Collingwood have done this brilliantly over the years.

Now I was a fan of giving players like McInness, Casboult, McCarthy and Mitchell a game early in their career to give them a taste. Many argue that they didn't DESERVE a game, and this is true, but this is about development and sometimes 'gifting' players a game is the best thing for them.

So, this leads me to everyones favourite whipping boy of late. Josh Bootsma.

I think this is clearly a case of 'pick em before you need em.'
Physically, he is not ready. Still too skinny. That will come.
Mentally, he is getting there, but confidence is a fickle thing.

Yes, he was getting towelled up by Riewoldt early yesterday. Mick recognised this, made the change, we got the win, no damage done. Bootsma got some experience, we got a win. WIN-WIN.

Everyone is critical of Mick for picking Bootsma, but i think this is crucial to his development. He is an incredibly good spoiler of the ball and has a terrific left hoof on him. There are signs there that he should be persisted with.

By picking him before we need him, we are fast tracking his development. So when a player like Jamison, McInness, White, Watson goes down, we have someone who knows exactly what to expect at AFL level and will be focussed on doing his job, rather than being a deer in headlights because its his first game.

Mick has been chastised for a lot of his selections this year. Going by this theory though, he is advancing the list and its development quicker than most, a trait his former side in Colingwood was given kudos for.
Mick has now played 37 players from our list and debuted the likes of Cachia, Buckley, Menzel and Graham along the way.

I hope we continue to pick em before we need em and in doing so become a solid list of 35+ players who are AFL ready and ready to go at the drop of a hat. Bootsma included.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: When was our last Rising Star nomination?
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Just out of curiosity, how many collingwood and geelong players have been nominated over the past 3 years.

They have clearly been the benchmark for bringing through the kids.

I suspect the answer may be surprising to some (perhaps me) but i doubt its as many as most would think.


I actually think the AFL like giving it to lesser teams who need the hope and publicity of having 'genuine talent' coming through. All i can remember is hack sides getting repeated nominations. (i could be wrong)

Your comparing our side with teams that have finished consistently in the top 4 and played in 4 of the last 5 Grand Finals?

Kinda...

Geelong and Pies are the benchmark. How do we stack up against that?

When i said 'lesser teams' i'm talking about off-field. The new teams, the interstate teams the lesser melbourne sides etc.

FYI...Rising stars from 2010 - 2013
GWS - 11
GC - 7
Melb - 7
WB - 6
BL - 6
Ade - 6
Geel - 6
Rich - 6
Haw - 5
Ess - 4
WCE - 4
PA - 4
NM - 3
Fre - 3
Coll - 3
Syd - 3
STK - 2
Carl - 2


Collingwood (3), Sydney (3) and Cats (6) are all known for their development of players who become 'guns' and have been the best sides going around over the period in question. We had 2.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: When was our last Rising Star nomination?
Just out of curiosity, how many collingwood and geelong players have been nominated over the past 3 years.

They have clearly been the benchmark for bringing through the kids.

I suspect the answer may be surprising to some (perhaps me) but i doubt its as many as most would think.


I actually think the AFL like giving it to lesser teams who need the hope and publicity of having 'genuine talent' coming through. All i can remember is hack sides getting repeated nominations. (i could be wrong)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Chris Yarran has gone backwards.
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Average stats for his career if you click on averages. Some stellar games in 2011 and great consistency throughout whilst beating his opponent.

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pg-carlton-blues--christopher-yarran?year=2011&fantasy=y

...and 1 brownlow vote.

Hardly the impact of an 'almost AA' player whose brilliance is hard to miss.

I think Kingy and Lynchy are telling porkies. My recollection is the same as MBBs....and like you, he is a favourite of mine who i take a keen interest in.